In need of some fire in seed form

smokey0418

smokey0418

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Useful seed company. Most of his items are out of stock , jbc seeds , dc seed exchage
And Great Lakes. .
If your in the USA and do Instagram there have been a few items auctioned off upwards of 6 bucks a seeds these past few weeks or more .
There is whole thread dedicated to useful and if you look through , people make it look very simple to grow dank looking product.
Having good genetics is a great start next to the light imho.
 
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catdaddy516

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Barristan Whitebeard said:
It comes up as Flavor Creator these days.
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Ok. Thanks.

smokey0418 said:
Useful seed company. Most of his items are out of stock , jbc seeds , dc seed exchage
And Great Lakes. .
If your in the USA and do Instagram there have been a few items auctioned off upwards of 6 bucks a seeds these past few weeks or more .
There is whole thread dedicated to useful and if you look through , people make it look very simple to grow dank looking product.
Having good genetics is a great start next to the light imho.
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Ok. Cool. I'll definitely look into it. Thanks
 
NanoGadget

NanoGadget

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I can vouch for In House and CSI. Been running a great Orkle pheno from IH (Purple Urkle x Tahoe OG) and an outstanding Sherbet x SFV OG cross from CSI for a couple years now. The sherb cross is a total bitch to grow but the bud is outstanding.
 
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OG-KGP

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Find you a friend with a good cut of something you like.

I popped seeds for 10+ years only to find a elite clone that was a chosen winner beat all of them in every aspect.

I will never pop another seed.
 
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OG-KGP

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xtsho said:
All you're going to get are everyone's personal favorites or the best plant they've grown. The truth is that if you know how to grow you can get fire from most anything.

I've found plenty of fire just in pollen chucks. Chasing strains is a waste of time. Most of it is just hype. Most couldn't tell the difference between 90% of the stuff out there if given a blind test yet they'll go to their grave claiming X strain is the best ever.

I see all these threads of people claiming this is fire and that is fire. Then you see someone saying they grew the same thing and were not impressed. One person's fire may be another's failure.
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A mediocre grower with a good cut will do better than a good grower with a mediocre cut. Genetics and selection means everything.
 
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catdaddy516

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NanoGadget said:
I can vouch for In House and CSI. Been running a great Orkle pheno from IH (Purple Urkle x Tahoe OG) and an outstanding Sherbet x SFV OG cross from CSI for a couple years now. The sherb cross is a total bitch to grow but the bud is outstanding.
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Believe it or not, I'm really start to lean more towards them more than Archive at this point. Thanks for your input.

OG-KGP said:
A mediocre grower with a good cut will do better than a good grower with a mediocre cut. Genetics and selection means everything.
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I definitely agree.

OG-KGP said:
Find you a friend with a good cut of something you like.

I popped seeds for 10+ years only to find a elite clone that was a chosen winner beat all of them in every aspect.

I will never pop another seed.
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I currently have what's suppose to be White Runtz, Wifi #43 and Cereal Milk as small clones at the moment, so clones or clone only's aren't the issue right now. Being that I have some time before they get to a proper size for me to take clones and flower, I want to run some beans and look around just in case these clone's aren't all what they're claimed to be.

Not only that, I really just want to find something crazy on my own, and I'm more than willing to do so; especially if the line has been proven to be worth it. I also know that to do so, one must search vigorously if he or she wants to achieve the ultimate goal, hence why I started this thread.

If you don't mind me asking (and this goes for anyone else that happens to read this), how many packs of a line were you going through before you gave up on your search through seeds? I see a lot of people growing out 1-2 10 packs (if that and really isn't that much), then call it quits, as if something that's suppose to be rare was so easy to find. Isn't that ironic.

My plan and goal is to AT LEAST go through 7-10 packs (depending on how many seeds per pack) of a cross to ensure I find something very worthy or very credible to rival what most consider top notch or elite status, so stick around to see how things turn out.

Thanks for chiming and contributing to this thread.
 
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OG-KGP

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catdaddy516 said:
If you don't mind me asking (and this goes for anyone else that happens to read this), how many packs of a line were you going through before you gave up on your search through seeds? I see a lot of people growing out 1-2 10 packs (if that and really isn't that much), then call it quits, as if something that's suppose to be rare was so easy to find. Isn't that ironic.
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I have been doing this a long time. Started in the 90's. Dont get me wrong, I have found some nice plants from seed. I went through a breeding phase where, like you, I wanted to find something special on my own. I found a couple nice plants.

But real talk, I linked with a guy from California and scored some elite cuts and it blew EVERYTHING away I ever popped. That was when OG kush was the top dog.

I ran those cuts for years, until i linked with another guy who had nothing but time and money. He would do hundreds of seed runs and pick a winner. His job was basically to hunt and he made his money selling clones. I spent a couple thousand dollars on a "membership" where i could get access to his winners. Not trying to be sappy here, but it changed my life. I grew 50 of his winners. Over the next couple years, taking notes, I slowly thinned the heard. Until I had 10 that I liked the best. The best money I have ever spent. It would literally have taken me years and much more money to do what he did and select the few. I still have those cuts.

To each their own. What some people consider good, others would throw in the trash so the term good is always subjective and it all depends on if your a coinsurer or just an average smoker. Or your a hobbyist or a commercial grower.

I just recently found a new plug and paid a lot of money for a new selection, I am currently still in veg with the new, but selecting winners from winners is easier than popping seeds. Now a days, i dont enjoy the hunt. I have much more money than I do time, so I have to use my time wisley.

Probably too much to read, but I wish you luck on your hunt.
 
MyBallzItch

MyBallzItch

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OG-KGP said:
I have been doing this a long time. Started in the 90's. Dont get me wrong, I have found some nice plants from seed. I went through a breeding phase where, like you, I wanted to find something special on my own. I found a couple nice plants.

But real talk, I linked with a guy from California and scored some elite cuts and it blew EVERYTHING away I ever popped. That was when OG kush was the top dog.

I ran those cuts for years, until i linked with another guy who had nothing but time and money. He would do hundreds of seed runs and pick a winner. His job was basically to hunt and he made his money selling clones. I spent a couple thousand dollars on a "membership" where i could get access to his winners. Not trying to be sappy here, but it changed my life. I grew 50 of his winners. Over the next couple years, taking notes, I slowly thinned the heard. Until I had 10 that I liked the best. The best money I have ever spent. It would literally have taken me years and much more money to do what he did and select the few. I still have those cuts.

To each their own. What some people consider good, others would throw in the trash so the term good is always subjective and it all depends on if your a coinsurer or just an average smoker. Or your a hobbyist or a commercial grower.

I just recently found a new plug and paid a lot of money for a new selection, I am currently still in veg with the new, but selecting winners from winners is easier than popping seeds. Now a days, i dont enjoy the hunt. I have much more money than I do time, so I have to use my time wisley.

Probably too much to read, but I wish you luck on your hunt.
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The main thing is finding someone to trust nowdays. So many hucksters and people popping 2 packs them selling their "selection" as fukin breeder cuts.. not to mention that hemp tobacco virus they are always talking about on strainly. 2 of last 4 clones I copped didn't make it through quarantine and it used to be a very rare thing. I have pretty much given up on clones for the time being but it sounds like u pretty much found the golden goose.
 
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catdaddy516

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OG-KGP said:
I have been doing this a long time. Started in the 90's. Dont get me wrong, I have found some nice plants from seed. I went through a breeding phase where, like you, I wanted to find something special on my own. I found a couple nice plants.

But real talk, I linked with a guy from California and scored some elite cuts and it blew EVERYTHING away I ever popped. That was when OG kush was the top dog.

I ran those cuts for years, until i linked with another guy who had nothing but time and money. He would do hundreds of seed runs and pick a winner. His job was basically to hunt and he made his money selling clones. I spent a couple thousand dollars on a "membership" where i could get access to his winners. Not trying to be sappy here, but it changed my life. I grew 50 of his winners. Over the next couple years, taking notes, I slowly thinned the heard. Until I had 10 that I liked the best. The best money I have ever spent. It would literally have taken me years and much more money to do what he did and select the few. I still have those cuts.

To each their own. What some people consider good, others would throw in the trash so the term good is always subjective and it all depends on if your a coinsurer or just an average smoker. Or your a hobbyist or a commercial grower.

I just recently found a new plug and paid a lot of money for a new selection, I am currently still in veg with the new, but selecting winners from winners is easier than popping seeds. Now a days, i dont enjoy the hunt. I have much more money than I do time, so I have to use my time wisley.

Probably too much to read, but I wish you luck on your hunt.
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Much respect and thanks for taking the time out to share your experience.

I definitely see where you're coming from and I'll admit, I recently paid for genetics that are considered to most to be winners, and while I said that, I also feel like I cheated the process.

My thing is, how many people grow out 100 seeds of 1 variety? from what I see, mostly or hardly anyone but a very few. I also look at the fact that a lot of today's elites was yesterday's seeds. Look how many elite plants dudes were getting from Obsl33t, Rascal, Rez seeds and the list goes on, and that was within recent years.

Like I said, much respect and I appreciate you dropping and weighing in on the thread.
 
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catdaddy516

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thenotsoesoteric said:
Sin city seeds dosimints, big heavy nugs of potent ass sleepy time indica stone.
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Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Words of conviction. lol. You said it like you believed it. Lol.

And I have been knowing and hearing about them for sometime. As a matter of fact, I remember when they first set up on the Farm, they were handing testers out like it was going out of style. They were always good peoples from what I remember and it seems like their hard work (if you want to call it that) has been paying off.

Thanks for the recommendation.
 
MisterKister

MisterKister

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MyBallzItch said:
Lol can't you see the pictures though? I know there's a lot of junk but the are plenty of pictures and smoke reports. Idk what you're going to get from one of our individual opinions that you won't get from any other thread. You like TK? Check out wedding cake crosses from reputable breeder or CSI has done a lot of work with a verified TK cut. Anything it touches it makes better/stronger imo You like bubba kush? Csi worked with that or you can check out one of the new kushmint crosses, a lot of great stuff has been found in them. The chems and sour diesel can be found s1 or a lot of crosses. Clearwater just did their warheadz drop should be some MAJOR heat there. GLO got the deals on them so make sure you go through him.

I have or am currently running the breeders I mentioned and gotten great results. If you're looking for heat I would stick with OG/TK/chem/ECSD crosses because you have a better idea what's going into them. Any of those x any of the new flavors is fun. Good luck
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T.H.seeds just released a strain called London mint cake that uses cookies London pound cake, Seedjunkies Kushmints, and their in-house pure Afghani. Massive yield of 700 grams p m² and 26+% thc.
 
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