In need of some assistance-3 plants(Lots of pics) Please help

Stride

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Im having a couple issues in my medical grow in 3 of my plants.

Im in socal and its an outdoor grow so the temps are socal outdoor temps.
Around 80-100 degrees depending on the day.
Plants are in a mix of FFOF, FFHF, perlite, and dolomite lime.
Watered every 2-3 days but usually 2 days because the soil is dry by then from the high heat.
IDK what my PH is but it should be stable because im using Fox Farm soil and I amended my soil with dolomite lime.

Plant 1: Yellowing from bottom up(fan leaves only). Had a total of 4-5 big fan leaves already fall.
*I thought it was a nitrogen problem but I fed with Alaska Fish Fertilizer 5-1-1 and that didnt correct it... Its possible I gave too mild of a dose but idk. I also then fed with some all around plant food which was miracle gro african violet food which is 7-7-7. None of this seemed to help.
*I thought maybe it was rootbound being a 4.5ft plant in about 3 gallons of soil. So I transplanted to 5 gallons but that was only a couple days ago.

Plant 2: Yellowing with browning and eventually getting crispy at the tips and falling off. This affects both the fan leaves and the little leaves around the bottom budsites. Right now this one is also about 4.5ft and in about 3 gallons of soil... maybe a little more but I plan to transplant this one to a 5 gallon later today.
*Same as plant 1 fed with Alaska Fish Fertilizer 5-1-1 and miracle gro african violet food 7-7-7.

Plant 3: Now this is weird ever since a seedling she has had very wrinkly leaves you'll see what I mean in the pictures. I have no idea what this could be. Although it looks pretty weird/sickly she hasnt shown a slow in growth, which I think makes it even weirder.

Anyone that can help I really appreciate it.
Pictures 1-4 are plant 1. 5-11 are plant 2. Last 2 are plant 3.
 

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Sweeve

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IMO plant 1 is fine, looks a little droopy though, prob from the transplant stress. The yellow on the leaves just means it aint getting enough sun, just prune them, and see if the problem persists. Plant 2, ..................i have no f**** idea bro, sorry, maybe someone else who grows outside can help you with that, and plant 3, are the leaves curling or what i cant really tell.....prune, dont overfeed and you should be fine......oh and i would wait to transplant number 2 untill u have that figured out. You dont need to stress it anymore
 

Stride

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Really not enough sun? Could that even make fan leaves yellow. Idk about that because it has came up to about half the plant now. The bottom ones are yellow and the middle ones are a lighter green color. So I think it's still progressing. But the third plant the leaves where the they are white they are curled up making like a little cupped shape.
 

lahadaextranjera

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Right, u have N def in the lower yellowing leaves, soon P K to follow. The other plant has Mg def. This could all be caused by lockout. What's ur PH ? How much did u feed? What water?
 

Stride

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I appreciate you're trying to help but could you atleast read what I wrote? Idk what my PH is because I don't have a meter and I amend my soil with dolomite lime. My water is tap water that sits out for 24 to 72 hours. I have fed with 1.5teaspoons of 5-1-1 and when that didn't seem to correct it I did a tablespoon. But this is spread out into 3 gallons of water watering roughly 10 plants.
 

monkeybones

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deficiencies can speak to lacking the availability of nutrients, rather than lacking presence

this is usually the case when plants are fed with dead water from the tap. dead water, dead soil
 

Cajun Grower

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you can buy a soil master ph,moisture and light meter combo at lowes for $10 thts a small price to pay for your girls ! its cheap but it wrks
 

lahadaextranjera

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I appreciate you're trying to help but could you atleast read what I wrote? Idk what my PH is because I don't have a meter and I amend my soil with dolomite lime. My water is tap water that sits out for 24 to 72 hours. I have fed with 1.5teaspoons of 5-1-1 and when that didn't seem to correct it I did a tablespoon. But this is spread out into 3 gallons of water watering roughly 10 plants.
It's the other way round. Because u can't provide the exact info we can't provide the exact answer. PH lockout is probable and drops cost tuppence. When we talk abt doses we mention the recommended stated dose and usually feed half. Corrections in N can take days, how many days later did u say u added more?
 

Cajun Grower

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Never add lime if you dont know ur ph lime lowers ur ph making ur soil more acidic thts not good either cures dont happen overnite r a coupla days !
 

GreenChile

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Plant 1 is a Nitrogen lockout (ph?)
Plant 2 looks over fertilized
Plant 3 looks fuct up from a lack of magnesium.

Flush your soil with about 10 gallons of water per plant.
let the plants dry out for a day or so, then water with this tea and id bet my left nut all your plants will get better.

Get a 5 gallon bucket and fill it with tap water. Drop an airstone in it and let it bubble for 24 hours.
Check the ph with some litmus paper and balance it to 6.7 (use a little fresh lemon juice to lower the ph if your water is too alkaline)
Add 1 cup of worm castings, 3tbsp of Epsom salt, 2tbsp of Molasses, and 1 tbsp of sugar.
Let it bubble for another 24 hours, then strain out all the chunks with cheese cloth, panty hose, or a small holed kitchen strainer.
Water with about a gallon per plant.

Dont add anymore fertilizer for a while and lightly water for the next couple days as your soil will be over watered :)
Hit me up if this dosent work....but im sure it will.
 

sly fox

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dolomite lime buffers the ph of soil to around neutral (7). As long as you only add 2 tbs per gallon of soil used.
 

Stride

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Ok so it really looks like nitrogen lockout for my first girl? Then the second is over fertilization? Im not sure if its just overfert because it started to yellow have problems and then I added nutes. If it was overfert wouldnt the whole plant be affected(like atleast some yellow/white tips on the upper leaves)? Third plant needs magnesium? But ever since it was small its been like that. Now its close to four feet tall. The first thing Ill do tomorrow is get a PH meter. Does anyone else have any other inputs?
It's the other way round. Because u can't provide the exact info we can't provide the exact answer. PH lockout is probable and drops cost tuppence. When we talk abt doses we mention the recommended stated dose and usually feed half. Corrections in N can take days, how many days later did u say u added more?
I added more nutes about a week later.
 

fasts10

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Ok so it really looks like nitrogen lockout for my first girl? Then the second is over fertilization? Im not sure if its just overfert because it started to yellow have problems and then I added nutes. If it was overfert wouldnt the whole plant be affected(like atleast some yellow/white tips on the upper leaves)? Third plant needs magnesium? But ever since it was small its been like that. Now its close to four feet tall. The first thing Ill do tomorrow is get a PH meter. Does anyone else have any other inputs?


I added more nutes about a week later.
READ! READ! theres alot of the same problems in the forum section just take the time to go through it you'll find what you need..good luck..
 
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