Dieseltech
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IGH hype riders dont even care about the fact IGH spreadin the herm around like no other
In House Genetics Thread
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Dividedsky
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ya I got rid of most of my friends ihg clones he gave me. Kept 1 lemon lime punch thats legit. There's so much fire out there that you can run that are not going run a chance to herm. Im running thug pug and DVG and I love they're strains. My environment is dialed in now with co2 and 24kbtu mini split so I could've tried to run the black cherry punch again but the fact that all 3 clones from the same bcp clone herm'd up it just wasn't worth it to me. They didn't even get stressed out that bad. My sherb breath that was in there with them at the same time look fire and have no sign of herms. The sherb went through the same stress.
ganjaman87
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Damn that’s crazy you say that. My Golato 45 had some balls on it. Took them off and haven’t seen anymore but damn
Dieseltech
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Imagine if that plans was mixed in with 100+ others ones and you did not catch it
I do not care what anyone says I would suggest going over all IHG gear with a fine tooth comb
People bust my balls but i been bc i am noob to site and english sucks
IHG is like advanced nutrients overrated HYPE
Serverchris
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If your going to buy any inhouse gear or any gear for that matter take the time to do an internet/Instagram search of the strain your interested in to make sure that their are alot of documented problem free grows. He has some really good stuff but I'd be cautious on what strains you choose but that goes for most any breeder in my opinion (other than dominion). I've yet to see bad plants out of 5 different strains of dominion so I highly recommend that to new growers and old growers both.
DangerDavez
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Good piece of advice. In House has had herm issues in the past. They have some great stuff but I wouldn't exactly call it stable.
For new growers I would certainly not recommend inhouse and this is coming from someone who is very happy with his stuff. Bodhi or Joti would be my picks
Dieseltech
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Sigh I was thinking of running the pack I have had for a year or so
I would check RIU over IG bunch hype riders on IG
Dieseltech
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And I got one of the dreaded unlucky 13 packs so I ate one
I’m gonna pop a bunch of autos and two more ihg strains
Might as well run them out
I’m gonna pop a bunch of autos and two more ihg strains
Might as well run them out
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th6_s6t6nist
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I follow this thread cause i am finishing my first indoor with in house stuff. Somes complain about herma seems legit, but it's the fate of all modern breeder that breed cookies. As it was already said don't forget it's most probably a hermie cross at the beginning, for GG4 it's a double hermie cross so...
I am finishing 12x Divine Jelly, seems to me like a wounderfull plant in every part, no hermie. Also harvest 7 Zilky Zmooth (7/9 female
, no hermie, buds are fine and dense, not big yielder and structure is meh, but taste seems legit. Also got 6 Bluenana freebie, one hermie pretty hard, i just remove the naner, one other very slightly on a small bud. Except these hermie problem i am pretty impressed with what i got.
I run some american breeder for some time, what i do the most was bodhi, and don't fool yourself i got hermie with him to, with it's ogkb x 88g13hp freebies. So saying "i recomand bodhi to newbie if you don't want hermie" is not true, you need to know what you are growing and you always have a chance with cookie. It's the same conversation is on all breeder thread, archive, exotic... they are all chuncker that spread hermie over the world... It's seems it's impossible to stop the haters and beans politic.
At least it's less stupid that saying "i don't buy ihg for 15 years and it's became shit"... If you don't grow his stuff how you know it's suck. So stupid. You can complain that it's expensive, yes, but shit you don't know. And it's not that expensive, i paid 150$ for 12 divine jelly feminized, it's 2x regular pack, so 75$ for a regular, same price as bodhi...
I am finishing 12x Divine Jelly, seems to me like a wounderfull plant in every part, no hermie. Also harvest 7 Zilky Zmooth (7/9 female
, no hermie, buds are fine and dense, not big yielder and structure is meh, but taste seems legit. Also got 6 Bluenana freebie, one hermie pretty hard, i just remove the naner, one other very slightly on a small bud. Except these hermie problem i am pretty impressed with what i got.I run some american breeder for some time, what i do the most was bodhi, and don't fool yourself i got hermie with him to, with it's ogkb x 88g13hp freebies. So saying "i recomand bodhi to newbie if you don't want hermie" is not true, you need to know what you are growing and you always have a chance with cookie. It's the same conversation is on all breeder thread, archive, exotic... they are all chuncker that spread hermie over the world... It's seems it's impossible to stop the haters and beans politic.
At least it's less stupid that saying "i don't buy ihg for 15 years and it's became shit"... If you don't grow his stuff how you know it's suck. So stupid. You can complain that it's expensive, yes, but shit you don't know. And it's not that expensive, i paid 150$ for 12 divine jelly feminized, it's 2x regular pack, so 75$ for a regular, same price as bodhi...
Mullalulla
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Exactly. This is what I ment to say and didnt get it across rite. Anyway Ill have next monday some pics of my Plat punch remix X Plat kush mints ... which was a freebie and .. well you'll see the pics next week.I follow this thread cause i am finishing my first indoor with in house stuff. Somes complain about herma seems legit, but it's the fate of all modern breeder that breed cookies. As it was already said don't forget it's most probably a hermie cross at the beginning, for GG4 it's a double hermie cross so...
I am finishing 12x Divine Jelly, seems to me like a wounderfull plant in every part, no hermie. Also harvest 7 Zilky Zmooth (7/9 female
I run some american breeder for some time, what i do the most was bodhi, and don't fool yourself i got hermie with him to, with it's ogkb x 88g13hp freebies. So saying "i recomand bodhi to newbie if you don't want hermie" is not true, you need to know what you are growing and you always have a chance with cookie. It's the same conversation is on all breeder thread, archive, exotic... they are all chuncker that spread hermie over the world... It's seems it's impossible to stop the haters and beans politic.
At least it's less stupid that saying "i don't buy ihg for 15 years and it's became shit"... If you don't grow his stuff how you know it's suck. So stupid. You can complain that it's expensive, yes, but shit you don't know. And it's not that expensive, i paid 150$ for 12 divine jelly feminized, it's 2x regular pack, so 75$ for a regular, same price as bodhi...
DangerDavez
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It's not that others can't herm. It's just that in house uses genetics that are know to herm to breed a lot of their gear whereas Bodhi for example has a few cuts that are tested and have no herm traits which he breeds with random other stuff which occasionally can have her traits. The risk of herming is much lower.
Not gonna bash inhouse too much. I've found a keeper in their Dosi pie. I just wouldn't recommend it to most grower who have a small space and plan on running from seed everytime or for large ops.
Really would be nice if more people stepped up and bothered stabilizing strains. I realize it's a lot of work and time consuming but it would be nice. Seems that it's just not feasible from a financial stand point when everyone just wants the latest and greatest. The hype is just that. Hype
Not gonna bash inhouse too much. I've found a keeper in their Dosi pie. I just wouldn't recommend it to most grower who have a small space and plan on running from seed everytime or for large ops.
Really would be nice if more people stepped up and bothered stabilizing strains. I realize it's a lot of work and time consuming but it would be nice. Seems that it's just not feasible from a financial stand point when everyone just wants the latest and greatest. The hype is just that. Hype
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Dividedsky
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^ Its really not to much to ask, to test and stabilize strains when you are charging $200/ for 10pk of beans. lol. Feel bad for the new or small growers who are dropping half their check on a 10pk. Then again you have to do your homework, don't just fall for the hype. I am probably going to pop a pack of purple platinum candy soon, so I will post some updates of that and the lemon lime punch cut I have. I got my last ihg strain- black cherry punch from my idiot buddy who probably mislabeled clones, so I have to give them another shot.
DangerDavez
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I like what useful seeds does where they give out some packs to test out before officially releasing it. Nothing wrong with chucking if you take the time to test it. Don't have time? Others will gladly do it for you
Serverchris
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Your following the wrong people on Instagram then. You will find 100 times more pictures of grows on Instagram than here. Shit most strains you would be lucky to find even one picture of on this whole forum.
Dividedsky
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I'm not on instagram
Dieseltech
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Hes is just a l
I am a little older and not on Ig much so i guess times changes and I stand corrected
I will try to check it out again
th6_s6t6nist
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When you say he uses genetic that are known to herm... well i think it depends on every cut, and every "hype" breeder like him or archive, exotic etc use the same thing. People always want new things and this kind of breeder just don't have the time to test and stabilize everything. Even Bodhi have a lot of strain and 90% of what he offers is F1... Ok Bodhi use often proven mâle but i'm sure it's GG4 and Cookie hybrid are not different, as i got the proff with these ogkb freebies. At least IHG seems to use cut that has been rework, for exemple for the zilky zmooth it's zcube and not the original zkittles, same for the gelato he didn't use the original cuts much, and prefer waiting it's divine gelato to make lot of cross. Also IHG seems to be able to work genetic beyond F2, as he said he will release the black cherry pie F4.
I don't think i ever saw archive offer more than a F2, and i cannot stop laghing when i read the explanation of how exotic genetic's mike did with it's the cube (i'm not even sure sure the guy understand how genetic work, and neither is able to do more than a BX). So when i read some farmers that have more than 100+ plant saying here that they don't want to run IHG anymore cause they are afraid of herm, i would say two things :
Firstly i handle 50 plant when i made a selection, it's illegal here in france and i do it for myself only, if something herm i would see it, give me a farm and full time to work on my plants and i won't cry to monitor my plants every days... You guys don't understand how lucky you are
Secondly don't buy grow cookies from any breeders if you are afraid of herms, as it's not only ihg but all hype breeders out there, and also don't buy F1 hybrid, wait for F3-4 because you never know
It is sure that in the best world, breeders should offer F3-F4 of their cross, but they need years and often skill they don't have to do so. I don't think we'll see that soon.
DangerDavez
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Good post. I agree with all of it.When you say he uses genetic that are known to herm... well i think it depends on every cut, and every "hype" breeder like him or archive, exotic etc use the same thing. People always want new things and this kind of breeder just don't have the time to test and stabilize everything. Even Bodhi have a lot of strain and 90% of what he offers is F1... Ok Bodhi use often proven mâle but i'm sure it's GG4 and Cookie hybrid are not different, as i got the proff with these ogkb freebies. At least IHG seems to use cut that has been rework, for exemple for the zilky zmooth it's zcube and not the original zkittles, same for the gelato he didn't use the original cuts much, and prefer waiting it's divine gelato to make lot of cross. Also IHG seems to be able to work genetic beyond F2, as he said he will release the black cherry pie F4.
I don't think i ever saw archive offer more than a F2, and i cannot stop laghing when i read the explanation of how exotic genetic's mike did with it's the cube (i'm not even sure sure the guy understand how genetic work, and neither is able to do more than a BX). So when i read some farmers that have more than 100+ plant saying here that they don't want to run IHG anymore cause they are afraid of herm, i would say two things :
Firstly i handle 50 plant when i made a selection, it's illegal here in france and i do it for myself only, if something herm i would see it, give me a farm and full time to work on my plants and i won't cry to monitor my plants every days... You guys don't understand how lucky you are
Secondly don't buy grow cookies from any breeders if you are afraid of herms, as it's not only ihg but all hype breeders out there, and also don't buy F1 hybrid, wait for F3-4 because you never know
It is sure that in the best world, breeders should offer F3-F4 of their cross, but they need years and often skill they don't have to do so. I don't think we'll see that soon.
Like I said, I'm not gonna bash inhouse because everyone does it now or they get left behind in this arms race. My post is not directed at inhouse but instead the the market as a whole. It's certainly not their fault that consumers all ride the hype wave.
A lot of their other strains are fantastic. Dosi Pie is what I run and it's the easiest thing I have to grow and the results are great. These are the strains that should be hyped up and not the herm prone cookies
Serverchris
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I just joined to look at grows and follow breeders, I've never posted anything on there myself.