In House Genetics Thread

Mr Hyde

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Yea honestly the signs have been there all along but you see pictures of their fire and it's hard to resist. I am confident that unless something changes these guys won't be in business 5 years from now. Once I blow thru this MOAC 10 pack Im done with theses guys.
Sheeeit, think about how much money you could make on one run of some herm seeds? You could possibly pay for the rebranding of your company with that cash lolol and still have money to blow at the strip club with all your buddies.
 

kmog33

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Have you noticed that a lot of breeders are posting pictures of their past crossings? Yesterday I saw at least three different breeders (one of them being subcool) posting their pictures from like way the fuck long ago. I think they are all grabbing straws to keep the rep on their old strains, some of which aren't even in production anymore.

Also, what did those red eyed males look like lololol.
Yeah, subcool in particular used to actually breed and make good gear. Now he's a money fiend IMO.


Here's one of the males. From a line that 95% of the females are herming.
 

natro.hydro

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Lanky, stretchy, wispy flowering sites, also the face that I know all of the females in the line are herming. Also from my personal experience that just looks like a shitty male/plant to me.
Yeah the fact that grateful stopped all testing of the cookie killer crosses should be a sign red shouldn't even work with that line. I do believe he said he won't be using that line anymore as well though.
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kmog33

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Yeah the fact that grateful stopped all testing of the cookie killer crosses should be a sign red shouldn't even work with that line. I do believe he said he won't be using that line anymore as well though.
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Then I don't understand why he's posting pics yesterday of all the males in the line he's using for breeding lol.
 

natro.hydro

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Then I don't understand why he's posting pics yesterday of all the males in the line he's using for breeding lol.
Huh, thought that herm pile post implied he was chucking the lot of em but maybe I misunderstood. Seemed like he was done with Cookie killer and moved onto the epoxy og but I could be wrong

Atleast I know red will stand behind his product if it does herm on me. He is gonna swap a pack of Keebler cookies grateful made while still with redeyed genetics.
There were a shit ton of people claimin herms in the comments on his post blasting grateful. Didn't expect him to swap my pack but he agreed so I appreciate that.
 

kmog33

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Huh, thought that herm pile post implied he was chucking the lot of em but maybe I misunderstood.

Atleast I know red will stand behind his product if it does herm on me. He is gonna swap a pack of Keebler cookies grateful made while still with redeyed genetics.
There were a shit ton of people claimin herms in the comments on his post blasting grateful. Didn't expect him to swap my pack but he agreed so I appreciate that.
Yeah I thought it was weird he would post that 6/8 females are herming but he's still posting the males he's using in the cross. Just weird. lol
 

needsomebeans

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I know that my small time KY mind probably couldn't comprehend how some of these large scale grows work, but how in the hell do they come out with so many different crosses. I have grown out their Velvet Pie, which will be grown again and I am currently running one of their strains for the party cup comp. I have done everything wrong and have all but killed her and she hasn't hermied yet. Lord knows she has been stressed. I threw out two plants, Holy power and purple jazz, that just wasn't enjoying life and with the small grow space that I have, I move them out when they don't want to conform. I probably won't order anymore beans from them.
 

kmog33

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I know that my small time KY mind probably couldn't comprehend how some of these large scale grows work, but how in the hell do they come out with so many different crosses. I have grown out their Velvet Pie, which will be grown again and I am currently running one of their strains for the party cup comp. I have done everything wrong and have all but killed her and she hasn't hermied yet. Lord knows she has been stressed. I threw out two plants, Holy power and purple jazz, that just wasn't enjoying life and with the small grow space that I have, I move them out when they don't want to conform. I probably won't order anymore beans from them.
Tbh it seems like they have a few rooms/tents that they get one female and reverse it for fems(one male for regs) and hit 10 or so different strains at a time. Followed by zero testing and constant small batch releases.

They don't seem to actually be working any of their crosses. All just f1 polyhybrids. They only seem to have a couple strains that they've gotten to filial 1 generation or bx2 of the f1 polyhybrids they're making. So not even past 1st generation polys for the most part. So, in essence, I wouldn't even call what they're releasing strains. The bcp bx2 is the closest thing they've got to one and it's still a few generations out of being an actual stable strain of they keep working it.
 

needsomebeans

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Tbh it seems like they have a few rooms/tents that they get one female and reverse it for fems(one male for regs) and hit 10 or so different strains at a time. Followed by zero testing and constant small batch releases.

They don't seem to actually be working any of their crosses. All just f1 polyhybrids. They only seem to have a couple strains that they've gotten to filial 1 generation or bx2 of the f1 polyhybrids they're making. So not even past 1st generation polys for the most part. So, in essence, I wouldn't even call what they're releasing strains. The bcp bx2 is the closest thing they've got to one and it's still a few generations out of being an actual stable strain of they keep working it.
I don't know a lot about the poly this and f1 stuff but I do know that their prices are going up and I'm with whoever surmised they won't be around in 5 years. To many other people doing good things like Gen and big worm.
 

kmog33

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I don't know a lot about the poly this and f1 stuff but I do know that their prices are going up and I'm with whoever surmised they won't be around in 5 years. To many other people doing good things like Gen and big worm.
They're essentially taking elite clones and reversing them and crossing them with other elite clones. Sometimes it's good, others it's just breeding low yield and instability. Poly hybrid f1 is what they're putting out. When you cross to random hybrid(not stabilized) strains. If you cross the progeny of those you have f1 generation of your hybrid strain. A lot of people confuse this with f2, however this is incorrect IMO, f2s are the 2nd generation of the same poly hybrid strain. From there you you bx and stabilize and at the 6-7th generation, you should have a uniform strain(in bred line)
Big difference between yours and reds... his looks close to a bruce jenner, yours looks more like an arnold schwarzzenegar.
Well I'm just testing these ATM. After the testers are finished I'll decide if I want to continue using them and the beans they've made. But yeah the couple he posted look like not what I want to pass on to my strains lol.
 
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