I know that my small time KY mind probably couldn't comprehend how some of these large scale grows work, but how in the hell do they come out with so many different crosses. I have grown out their Velvet Pie, which will be grown again and I am currently running one of their strains for the party cup comp. I have done everything wrong and have all but killed her and she hasn't hermied yet. Lord knows she has been stressed. I threw out two plants, Holy power and purple jazz, that just wasn't enjoying life and with the small grow space that I have, I move them out when they don't want to conform. I probably won't order anymore beans from them.