I'm Ready- Blue OG, White Lavender, OG #18, and Sour Kush.

Herb Man

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Nice read Prosp, as an organics man myself thought I'd mosey on through.

they do, Im impressed, dunno whats up with all the people that diss em so much, but then agin, I did set my expectations a little low from the start, and I did wait a year, and got some 3W LEDs and with some White`s mixed in (amazing what can happen in a year, last time I looked it was mostly 1W blue/Red`s I saw around) and I did go for some quality (even tho I have seen even better once after my buy :D)
Interesting.

May I ask what LED's you have or would recomend inplace of a 4/600HPS?
 

prosperian

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Update: G-13 White Lavender final harvest results
Total dry weight: 76 g (2.68 oz.) 1.9 grams per watt (160 watts / 4 plants = 40 watts/plant)

Total dry weight: 76 g (2.68 oz.)
52 day flower
49 day veg
122 day germination
5 gallon Geopot
Roots Organics potting soil (cooked for 30 days)
Molasses (1 tbs / gallon at flower every other watering)
Tap water
160w Area51 SGS-160 LED
Dry cabinet three days @ 41% rh, jarred and burped 12/12. Added Boveda 62% humidity pack on 5th day.












May I ask what LED's you have or would recomend inplace of a 4/600HPS?
Depends on coverage. A SGS-160 is designed to cover 2' X 3' grow area at 18" height above canopy. Thanks for stopping by, always good to see an organic soil grower. We do you have in the dirt right now?
 

GandalfdaGreen

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Those are awesome Pros. I bet they taste great. Do you run a dehumidifier in your drying cabinet? I have a closet I dry in. I set my dehumidifier to 50% RH and put a small fan to move air in the closet. It takes about 5 days or so. When I jar them they are at a perfect 55-57%. I don't even have to burp most times. I do check the room a few times a day to check the stems. I have found that the best way I gauge the dryness is to check the remaining the stems from the fan leaves. I leave these stems intentionally and when they snap that is how I know things are ready. Try this method the next time. It is all about the remaining leaf stems cracking. Take care.
 

Herb Man

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Depends on coverage. A SGS-160 is designed to cover 2' X 3' grow area at 18" height above canopy. Thanks for stopping by, always good to see an organic soil grower. We do you have in the dirt right now?
A lot, haha. It's a perpetual grow so pulling something out every month.

I veg under a 4 foot 8 tube T5HO and flower under a 400w HPS.

In order of chopping;

1 White Widow
1 OG Kush Royal Queen Seeds
1 Deep Cheese Dinafem
1 Royal Cheese Royal Queen Seeds
1 OG Kush Royal Queen Seeds
1 G13 Cheese Dinafem
1 Critical (Auto) Dinafem

Too much for my space 5 and a half foot (L) 2 and a half F (W) and 6 F tall.

Just recently discovered that my pots are too small 2 gallon, so I recently upgraded around 3 of them to 3 gallon pots, I want to see how that goes.

Going to grow less plants in bigger pots in the future.

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The Flowering tent is a bit less crowded now than in the pic.

Hharvested a couple and a couple turned out to be males so, trying to pair a couple up and make some seeds.

Larrys OG x Royal Seeds OG Kush hopefully on it's way.
 

Herb Man

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yep there is also them small 9W or 12W Cree bulb`s

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also come with E14 and E27 fittings, could help the temperatures

but are you sure your seedlings is stunted, sumtimes they can take a wile to take off (btw how is your RH ?)

Ooh yea and I know the feeling, cant sit still after a few days in bed/sick
[FONT=&quot]Would these be used a supplemental light or could they be use in the same/similar way as CFL's for the whole grow?

I feel another experiment coming on.

Great thread Prosp.

I'm gonna go through every page.[/FONT]
 

prosperian

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Those are awesome Pros. I bet they taste great. Do you run a dehumidifier in your drying cabinet? I have a closet I dry in. I set my dehumidifier to 50% RH and put a small fan to move air in the closet. It takes about 5 days or so. When I jar them they are at a perfect 55-57%. I don't even have to burp most times. I do check the room a few times a day to check the stems. I have found that the best way I gauge the dryness is to check the remaining the stems from the fan leaves. I leave these stems intentionally and when they snap that is how I know things are ready. Try this method the next time. It is all about the remaining leaf stems cracking. Take care.
Hey, that's a good tip about the fan leaves. I will have to try and remember that next time.

Three days seems to by my number in the dry cabinet. Humidity is pretty constant in there at 41% and just needs a couple jar burps to equalize the bud moisture. I'm so careful never to go below 55%, all curing stops if it dips below this number for any amount of time. The bovedas are added from there and it's on auto pilot until smoked.



A lot, haha. It's a perpetual grow so pulling something out every month. In order of chopping;

1 White Widow
1 OG Kush Royal Queen Seeds
1 Deep Cheese Dinafem
1 Royal Cheese Royal Queen Seeds
1 OG Kush Royal Queen Seeds
1 G13 Cheese Dinafem
1 Critical (Auto) Dinafem

Too much for my space 5 and a half foot (L) 2 and a half F (W) and 6 F tall. Just recently discovered that my pots are too small 2 gallon, so I recently upgraded around 3 of them to 3 gallon pots, I want to see how that goes. Going to grow less plants in bigger pots in the future.
Nice list of plants. Yeah, you would need two SGS led panels for that space. My last grow was 4 plants in 3 gal containers under a 400w HID. Fewer plants seems to be the path of many growers after gaining some experience.

I like variety in my smoke and that would be my motivation to grow more plants in smaller containers. Three gal is a perfect size for a 4-week veg. These five strains were freebies, so I had to use them up.

A lot of peeps around here think that adding more light, bigger containers, and more veg time means larger harvest. Truth is, you have to have space too. I maxed out my 2' x 3' grow space, so the extra 4 week veg didn't really help me. The 8 week veg period would have had greater impact on one or two plants because they would have room to expand and grow. Make sense?

Anyway, good luck on your grow and keep us updated with more pics. :mrgreen:
 

Mad Hamish

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Prosp: If you want a lot of bud, the only way is SoG mate. Something like Fantaseeds' Armageddon will give you over 25g per plant in a 20cm pot, I've been checking out the strain and it checks out legit as can be for SoG. Total 12 plants on a 2-week rotation, you can get 75g every 2 weeks. I've been thinking up the perfect SoG, multi-strain, and I'd go Aramgeddon, Chronic, and LVBK. The latter not being a great yielder but finishes in 60 days, PERFECT. And DAAAAAAAANK.
I'm trying out some other routes at the moment, but I think I will be doing a little 12-plants SoG alongside my other experiments soon. I toke a LOT, my wife too. So I want to do an SoG for the bulk of it, and then a 'connoisseur' section on the side. I've got 1800w of HPS to play with though :)
 

prosperian

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Prosp: If you want a lot of bud, the only way is SoG mate. Something like Fantaseeds' Armageddon will give you over 25g per plant in a 20cm pot, I've been checking out the strain and it checks out legit as can be for SoG. Total 12 plants on a 2-week rotation, you can get 75g every 2 weeks. I've been thinking up the perfect SoG, multi-strain, and I'd go Aramgeddon, Chronic, and LVBK. The latter not being a great yielder but finishes in 60 days, PERFECT. And DAAAAAAAANK. I'm trying out some other routes at the moment, but I think I will be doing a little 12-plants SoG alongside my other experiments soon. I toke a LOT, my wife too. So I want to do an SoG for the bulk of it, and then a 'connoisseur' section on the side. I've got 1800w of HPS to play with though :)
That sounds like a really good setup Hamish. Lot of different ways to get the job done, but I'm starting to learn that a small grower like me (2' x 3' grow space) has to really take the limited space into consideration when trying to maximize the yield. There are many advantages to smaller containers in a SoG layout. Definitely a direction I could go vs. a one plant setup. I have always felt that it's easier to grow several smaller plants and hit your harvest goal versus trying to grow a single topped, trimmed, long-vegged, perfect plant. I don't like putting all my eggs all in one basket, ya know?

I'm starting to understand that you don't have to have the biggest single producing plant to achieve a great harvest. You can use smaller plants with shorter grow cycles and hit the numbers.

These were 3-gallon containers vegged for three weeks. Produced 9 oz. I will probably end up with a little more on this grow but I also vegged for an additional 5 weeks.
Just not worth the extra time in my opinion.


Thanks for sharing the info Hamish.
 

prosperian

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I forgot to add my 24" fluros to my gram / watt figures. Each t8 bulb is 17 watts x 4 bulbs (68 watts) + the 160 watt led = 228 watts total.

Here are some pics from the cab at 57 days 12/12



Mystery bag seed


Sour Kush


White Lavender Stem


57 days in the closet...
 

hbbum

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Nice pics, and great harvest results. Even with the flouro lights you got 1.4g per watt and that is not including the auto you harvested early in the grow correct? Have you had any tastes of the auto? Sorry if I missed it.
 

prosperian

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Nice pics, and great harvest results. Even with the flouro lights you got 1.4g per watt and that is not including the auto you harvested early in the grow correct? Have you had any tastes of the auto? Sorry if I missed it.
What's up hb? No prob, I've been waiting for excuse to pop the auto diesel jar. Picked up citrus lime flavors and it's not a couch-lock high. I bet it will get better in a couple months.

Hey, your avatar is winking at me, did it always do that? Maybe it's just me??? bongsmilie
 

polo the don

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What's up hb? No prob, I've been waiting for excuse to pop the auto diesel jar. Picked up citrus lime flavors and it's not a couch-lock high. I bet it will get better in a couple months.[\QUOTE]


What was the weight from that auto?
Was it 78 days old at chop? I know that cola sure was nice!
 

hbbum

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hbbum...how did the N def you had in the spring get fixed? What was the final outcome? Thanks man.
Ended like this:
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I halted it a little but, but with just plain water the last 10 days, she really leeched everything outta the fan leaves.

I should have a dry weight in a day or 2
 

Mad Hamish

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Ended like this:
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I halted it a little but, but with just plain water the last 10 days, she really leeched everything outta the fan leaves.

I should have a dry weight in a day or 2
The drying bud looks MAGNIFICENT. I never worry about N def that late in, it actually makes for tasty buds, less chlorophyll to cure out ;) Bet you're going to be damn impressed once you blaze that beautiful bud!
 

prosperian

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Revisit on the G-13 Auto Diesel 79 days from seed. (Post #741 has more info) Not a big producer for me at under an ounce.

Cured 7 weeks really excellent smoke with an "energy" high and lemon lime flavors.

Smells some of diesel more of the citrus aromas are coming through.





 

GandalfdaGreen

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I started growing autos with my grows to see what problems may be out there for me weeks ahead of when my "regular" plants would show anything. I put two off to the side and I check them all the time. I just harvested my first autos ever. A Dinefem Blue Cheese and a Kannabia La Blanca. I love them. They are cool plants. I think the autos are fun. I have two Vision Seeds White Widows running right now. Cool stuff. I bet my autos are dry enough to sample right now. Off to check. :eyesmoke:
 
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