I'm in need to Experiment..I'm getting bored of substances
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spazstic
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Here is some advice, take it if you wish:
I've done damn near everything. DMT I would say go ahead, it's an experience for sure. Great out of body experience. I heard your brain has a small amount it releases when you die, and that is where the white light people see when they die comes from. Don't know if that is true, but I've done the D many times and I'm ok with death if that's how I go out.
I was a meth addict for a long time and it was really hard to quit. Not too long later though I got hooked on heroin and that took longer to kick. Problem is, everything is great at first and before you know it you've changed and your life sucks and you don't even know it. I had to get on the methadone to quit, and then you just want to put a bullet through your head for the first couple months. It sucks man. The first time I did each it was "only once to see how it feels." Yeah right. Don't try it man, not even once. That shit will FUCK YOUR LIFE UP. Stick to weed and alcohol. Occasional trip is ok, just don't make it a weekly (or even monthly) thing, and don't touch crystal, h, or crack. Seriously, stay away from anyone with that shit.
Shitty part is, I was told this a long time ago, by an old man who was much wiser than I had realized at the time. Come to find out he was hooked on crystal but he was trying to help me. I don't know if this will help you, or if you care, but if I help one person it will make a difference.
I've done damn near everything. DMT I would say go ahead, it's an experience for sure. Great out of body experience. I heard your brain has a small amount it releases when you die, and that is where the white light people see when they die comes from. Don't know if that is true, but I've done the D many times and I'm ok with death if that's how I go out.
I was a meth addict for a long time and it was really hard to quit. Not too long later though I got hooked on heroin and that took longer to kick. Problem is, everything is great at first and before you know it you've changed and your life sucks and you don't even know it. I had to get on the methadone to quit, and then you just want to put a bullet through your head for the first couple months. It sucks man. The first time I did each it was "only once to see how it feels." Yeah right. Don't try it man, not even once. That shit will FUCK YOUR LIFE UP. Stick to weed and alcohol. Occasional trip is ok, just don't make it a weekly (or even monthly) thing, and don't touch crystal, h, or crack. Seriously, stay away from anyone with that shit.
Shitty part is, I was told this a long time ago, by an old man who was much wiser than I had realized at the time. Come to find out he was hooked on crystal but he was trying to help me. I don't know if this will help you, or if you care, but if I help one person it will make a difference.
poplars
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yeah man + rep to that . . .
ANC
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order 100g of MHRB (mimosa hostilis root bark), a bottle of caustic soda, and a small tin of ronsonol lighter fluid, and head over to the section of the site where we discuss things of this nature... This can make you over a gram of spice in all its lovely forms, pure white, nice yellow oxide, purple jungle spice.... with no 5 meoDMT to crack your nuts. Will set you back maybe $20
To buy DMT, if you could source this anywere, would be about $200 a gram, you use 50mg vapourised for a "breakthrough"... I'll explain just now... but with a good pipe and some experience you could get away on half of that.
As said before it is a natural chemical found in your body, it is destroyed by your body in minutes if found in the blood.... so its virtualy untraceable.
There are basicaly two levels of tripping with this... first level, you will likely feel aware of your body still (strangely enough at this level you are also aware of your physical environment through hearing etc...so no one can sneak u up on ya
) , you may feel like slowly being moved on a conveyor belt or raft, while surrounded by a world of fractals and meaningfull glyphs etc.... astoundingly beautifull... THE TRICK IS NEVER TO GET TOO AWESTRUCK.
sometimes, even though you are going to breakthrough you will spend time in this fractal beauty place anyway... Many people see it as a crysanthymum ceiling with a door or light you have to move through (it may or may not have an attendant, who may or may not let you though).
Breakthough level, is more concrete... it is often filled with entities... many types abound, some good, some less so, but I will not name names to not colour your brain with preloaded images. It is much more reaffirming to read about other people interacting with the same beings and things after experiencing it. Remember, it is not like some dream, although you may forget it like one, it is as real or even more real than what you are experiencing now.
Some may tease you, some will share information about the past and future, others will show you stuff to try and strike you with amazement, some may tell you to get the fuck out and stay out, some are just crazy annoyances that should be dismissed. the more of your ego you can pull through so you know what you have to put up with from things you donlt know if they are real or not, the better. Some may help you repair your light being, and rebalance your chakras.. oh those are real too... as is almost anything you can find in the tibetan system of thinking. Alternatively you may just see places and things, or how you and the computer and the wall is all made from the same stuff, and realy are not seperate, as our illusionary senses would have us believe...
You've see with your eyes, tasted with your tongue, felt with your skin, heard with your ears, and smelled with your nose... now get ready to do all of those with the one organ you were always intended to, your pineal gland, and experience all of the multiverse.... you know that 90something percent of our universe is made up out of dark matter that our senses and instruments can not register?.. its all around you right now... Science has had its shot, now is the down of the age of the essoteric.
If other drugs are called gateway drugs, DMT is the door, they should lead you to.
P.S. I would just like to state for the record that I am also a recovered crack and luuds addict (+-10 years), over here we crush luuds into a powder and smoke it on weed.... feels too good. But, what I'm trying to say, is there is no way I would lead someone down that path of addiction.
Just a taste
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-za:IE-Address&rlz=1I7GGIE_en&q=dmt%20art&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
To buy DMT, if you could source this anywere, would be about $200 a gram, you use 50mg vapourised for a "breakthrough"... I'll explain just now... but with a good pipe and some experience you could get away on half of that.
As said before it is a natural chemical found in your body, it is destroyed by your body in minutes if found in the blood.... so its virtualy untraceable.
There are basicaly two levels of tripping with this... first level, you will likely feel aware of your body still (strangely enough at this level you are also aware of your physical environment through hearing etc...so no one can sneak u up on ya
) , you may feel like slowly being moved on a conveyor belt or raft, while surrounded by a world of fractals and meaningfull glyphs etc.... astoundingly beautifull... THE TRICK IS NEVER TO GET TOO AWESTRUCK.sometimes, even though you are going to breakthrough you will spend time in this fractal beauty place anyway... Many people see it as a crysanthymum ceiling with a door or light you have to move through (it may or may not have an attendant, who may or may not let you though).
Breakthough level, is more concrete... it is often filled with entities... many types abound, some good, some less so, but I will not name names to not colour your brain with preloaded images. It is much more reaffirming to read about other people interacting with the same beings and things after experiencing it. Remember, it is not like some dream, although you may forget it like one, it is as real or even more real than what you are experiencing now.
Some may tease you, some will share information about the past and future, others will show you stuff to try and strike you with amazement, some may tell you to get the fuck out and stay out, some are just crazy annoyances that should be dismissed. the more of your ego you can pull through so you know what you have to put up with from things you donlt know if they are real or not, the better. Some may help you repair your light being, and rebalance your chakras.. oh those are real too... as is almost anything you can find in the tibetan system of thinking. Alternatively you may just see places and things, or how you and the computer and the wall is all made from the same stuff, and realy are not seperate, as our illusionary senses would have us believe...
You've see with your eyes, tasted with your tongue, felt with your skin, heard with your ears, and smelled with your nose... now get ready to do all of those with the one organ you were always intended to, your pineal gland, and experience all of the multiverse.... you know that 90something percent of our universe is made up out of dark matter that our senses and instruments can not register?.. its all around you right now... Science has had its shot, now is the down of the age of the essoteric.
If other drugs are called gateway drugs, DMT is the door, they should lead you to.
P.S. I would just like to state for the record that I am also a recovered crack and luuds addict (+-10 years), over here we crush luuds into a powder and smoke it on weed.... feels too good. But, what I'm trying to say, is there is no way I would lead someone down that path of addiction.
Just a taste
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-za:IE-Address&rlz=1I7GGIE_en&q=dmt%20art&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
puffpuffPASSEDOUT
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Great advice man, you basically explained why im never going to do anything other than weed...and why im on my way to quiting alcohol for good.
Its like you said, its great at first but then the shit catches up to you and your life sucks as a result. Thats what alcohol has done to me the past 6 years (im only 23). Thing is its hard to wake up and be what you once were...especially if youve injured yourself in the process like i have.
Good stuff man +rep
puffpuffPASSEDOUT
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I think everyone who uses these crazy ass drugs should visit this page and take a very good look at it. ...See things from my perspective, and hopefully understand why these drugs are bad for you, and society.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=pto-1435.html&fromMod=popular_addiction
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=pto-1435.html&fromMod=popular_addiction
Lord Bluntmasta
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puffpuffPASSEDOUT I challenge you to get addicted to DMT
spazstic
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Good article, what I always have found funny is how we draw the line as to what substances are ok to use and not ok, and how that line is constantly changing. It is also interesting how different cultures have different takes on drug use. Look at the Native Americans and peyote, the Chinese and opium, the use of the coca leaf in teas around the world. Kinda funny how we have created this white and black world.
It is ok to drink, smoke (cigarettes), use prescription pain killers when the pain really isn't bad at all, drink large amounts of caffeine and yet pot is where the line is drawn (for now). Wonder where it will be in 50 years. Cocaine? Speed?
spazstic
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Yeah, I never understood how people could want to drop acid or schroom all day every day, but I've met people who do. By the end of my trip I'm ready to be normal again. So I wouldn't want to smoke D everyday, but I'm sure there are some that would get carried away.
puffpuffPASSEDOUT
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Its not the chemical that im talking about. The more you choose to use drugs as a way of "new experience" or "enhanced experience" the more it destroys who you really are and what you can become naturally. ...Your whole life becomes one big chase for that next high, or experience. Your basically holding yourself hostage, and most of times not even knowing it until the shit really hits the fan.
ANC
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as said before.. only about 15 minutes.. can be less... but timewise feels MUUUUUCH longer lthan this... you need about 50mg for starters I would say... the problem with today's kids is that they take too little drugs... you know, can I get off on 1g of shrooms? mentality...
Also agree that anyone of advanced enough phsycology to deal with this stuff is past the ignorance of lumping shit together in crude groups rather than studying the merrits of each item.
What yo uwill experience is no diffirent than waht the trained yogi's can do naturaly, but with our modern lifestyle, this is the new way, and a new age.
Also agree that anyone of advanced enough phsycology to deal with this stuff is past the ignorance of lumping shit together in crude groups rather than studying the merrits of each item.
What yo uwill experience is no diffirent than waht the trained yogi's can do naturaly, but with our modern lifestyle, this is the new way, and a new age.
puffpuffPASSEDOUT
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If you have the time, and crave insight, i think someone of your "level" would enjoy this read:
http://www.superhappiness.com/index.html
puffpuffPASSEDOUT
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Good article, what I always have found funny is how we draw the line as to what substances are ok to use and not ok, and how that line is constantly changing. It is also interesting how different cultures have different takes on drug use. Look at the Native Americans and peyote, the Chinese and opium, the use of the coca leaf in teas around the world. Kinda funny how we have created this white and black world.
It is ok to drink, smoke (cigarettes), use prescription pain killers when the pain really isn't bad at all, drink large amounts of caffeine and yet pot is where the line is drawn (for now). Wonder where it will be in 50 years. Cocaine? Speed?
I wanted to comment on this...
See all of these things were basically created before the knowledge of what harm they do to our bodies/minds. they are still around becuase they are big money markets. Just another reason why pot WILL be legal in the near future. Its the #1 cash crop in america, i bet the govt cant wait to get its greedy hands on that money.
hom36rown
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thats just plain untrue. Slamming dope, smoking rock, sniffing glue, these are the types of things that can fuck up your life. Nothing wrong with trying hallucinogens. I dont understand how you can say it destroys who you really are... does weed destroy who you really are? Id say thats pretty laughable, I use hallucinogens occasionally, and Im pretty sure Im still me, whoever that is. Lol, IM am way more a hostage to weed than any other drug. Shrooms, acid, dmt I can take or leave, but I smoke weed everyday. Ive yet to meet anyone who scuked cock for shrooms, or meet someone who has runined their life by taking acid. I have, however, met plenty of people who say acid, peyote, shrooms etc. was a spiritual experience for them, or that it gave them new perspective or insight. I dont see how that can be a bda thing.
puffpuffPASSEDOUT
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i understand its a hard thing to grasp but you really should read this article.. http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=pto-1435.html&fromMod=popular_addiction
If you dont understand what its talking about then you dont understand what im talking about.
...Alil something that opened my mind is when i was watching "The drug years" on the sundance channel. I remember them talking about people experiencing acid trips and how some people used those trips to develop into something great, while it was also dangerous to those who "tripped" and never came back to reality. IMO everyone who takes any kind of drug (legal or not) is changed forever from his/her original state. Question is was it really for the better?
edit: also i feel weed does destroy who you are, and your future success, IF you abuse it.
ANC
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In my opinion you are more likely to abuse a meatgrinder with your hand, than DMT...
I do realy see where you are comming from and its a place almost as diametrically oposed to this as the yin, from the yan, yet it aims for the same goal, make a part of the whole human experience.
It is another road, but from where I am and as a consequence as my response to how life unfolded that road is frought with dissapointment and unreachability.... And I feel this is true for most of modern man.
Each and everyone of you have lived every day of your life trying the same thing to reach happiness and for some enlightenment. And I would wager a bet, very few of you are perfectly adjusted adults, you may be 95% there on a good day, but the other 5% is unspeakable. Please watch the clip on morality I posted in another thread just now... it will at some level convey some of the essence of my message... it may be time to try something new.
Look I am totaly willing to accept that this path is not for everyone...but my intuition, based on this gentleman's first post, tells me that he is on a course of development useing a method you are yet to conceive of.
Once again, if your limit of experiencing mind altering substances is either LSD or mushrooms, you are going to have a hard time even visualising it, about as hard a time as you would have visualising god, if you believed it.
The pole vaulter's jump starts with a few small skips in place... the psychonauts career starts with a view recreational flights of fanacy.
I do realy see where you are comming from and its a place almost as diametrically oposed to this as the yin, from the yan, yet it aims for the same goal, make a part of the whole human experience.
It is another road, but from where I am and as a consequence as my response to how life unfolded that road is frought with dissapointment and unreachability.... And I feel this is true for most of modern man.
Each and everyone of you have lived every day of your life trying the same thing to reach happiness and for some enlightenment. And I would wager a bet, very few of you are perfectly adjusted adults, you may be 95% there on a good day, but the other 5% is unspeakable. Please watch the clip on morality I posted in another thread just now... it will at some level convey some of the essence of my message... it may be time to try something new.
Look I am totaly willing to accept that this path is not for everyone...but my intuition, based on this gentleman's first post, tells me that he is on a course of development useing a method you are yet to conceive of.
Once again, if your limit of experiencing mind altering substances is either LSD or mushrooms, you are going to have a hard time even visualising it, about as hard a time as you would have visualising god, if you believed it.
The pole vaulter's jump starts with a few small skips in place... the psychonauts career starts with a view recreational flights of fanacy.
lennyo
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Let me explain a bit about Dimethyltryptamine (DMT), also known as N,N-dimethyltryptamine, is a naturally-occurring tryptamine and potent psychedelic drug, found not only in many plants, but also in trace amounts in the human body where its natural function is undetermined.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]It is present in all of our bodies and is naturally produced by our [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]pineal gland (our so called third eye).
If we didnt have this chemical in our bodies we would not have dreams.
It is in no way addictive and there is definatley no side effects.
If you are seriously bored with other stuff Flipdv you will at least research it and maybe try some.
You never know, it may be just what you need????[/FONT]
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