im growing Tahoe og and the buds are really small i dont understand why

Khronickush

Khronickush

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my buds are very small on the Tahoe but i gave them all the goods early on just to fatten them up like molasses and bat guano and still used them till about week 7 or 8 and they are still small any one have an idea on how to make the next harvest of my Tahoe bigger
 

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Born Again Vegan

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Khronickush said:
my buds are very small on the Tahoe but i gave them all the goods early on just to fatten them up like molasses and bat guano and still used them till about week 7 or 8 and they are still small any one have an idea on how to make the next harvest of my Tahoe bigger
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Hey dude, buds look great congrats. First off some strains (dunno about Tahoe OG) don't produce a lot of bud but are considered more a connoisseur smoke.
However small variables when all out can affect the yield. If temps, watering, feeding yadda yadda arnt all spot on, then some bitches just don't put out.

I can see your fan leaves are a little worse for wear, the leaves are massively under rated by some growers. They are responsible for the life and energy of your plant. Next time try feeding grow nutes throughout the grow to make sure has enough nitrogen to support a healthy set of leaves till the end.
This will def. improve on your yield! Hope this helps
 
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GanjaGanjaKushKush

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whens the last time you fed your plants nutes? looks like ur doing a "pre harvest flush" which does nothing for taste/harshness and is more then likely the cause
 
Mader89

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True OG's tend to be short stalky plants with small dense nugs. Those look really nice, but if you want bigger/more buds you need to veg them longer. My suggestion is to scrogg that baby. Oh and IMO a PhD water only flush 2 weeks before harvest is important, it cleans the buds out so you don't end up smoking plant food.
 
Khronickush

Khronickush

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thanks guys means alot that my buds look good. but they are really yellow because im flushing them out and about to harvest like today haha day 67 they are all auburn
 
NorthofEngland

NorthofEngland

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Mader89 said:
True OG's tend to be short stalky plants with small dense nugs. Those look really nice, but if you want bigger/more buds you need to veg them longer. My suggestion is to scrogg that baby. Oh and IMO a PhD water only flush 2 weeks before harvest is important, it cleans the buds out so you don't end up smoking plant food.
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That's why I always starve my cows for 2 weeks before I have them slaughtered
Or I end up eating mostly grass.

The concept of plant food actually getting into the buds is incorrect.
It's a 'flat earth' type theory - Seems to be obvious but is quickly dismissed when an understanding of growth is attained.

Certain substances can adulterate the end product.
But to 'end up smoking plant food' you'd have to be injecting it into the colas.

The idea of flushing polarises opinions
But I would bet money that most folk couldn't distinguish flushed from unflushed
in a blind test (pepsi challenge).
 
kinddiesel

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more light and closer the light . key word . more light , = bigger buds . and the more co2 and proper nutrients bigger buds . what lighting and how far away from the plant . watts ?
 
Mader89

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NorthofEngland said:
That's why I always starve my cows for 2 weeks before I have them slaughtered
Or I end up eating mostly grass.

The concept of plant food actually getting into the buds is incorrect.
It's a 'flat earth' type theory - Seems to be obvious but is quickly dismissed when an understanding of growth is attained.

Certain substances can adulterate the end product.
But to 'end up smoking plant food' you'd have to be injecting it into the colas.

The idea of flushing polarises opinions
But I would bet money that most folk couldn't distinguish flushed from unflushed
in a blind test (pepsi challenge).
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dgp said:
Haha..smoking plant food? Don't they teach photosynthesis in school anymore?
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a plant and a animal have a completely different biological system and process things in different ways. Not to mention I'd have no problem eating a blade of grass, chugging down some fertilizer no thanks. Well I've smoke bud that hadn't been flushed early enough from harvest and it snap crackle an pops.
Kinddiesels got it co2 is supposed to work nicely.
 
NorthofEngland

NorthofEngland

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Mader89 said:
a plant and a animal have a completely different biological system and process things in different ways. Not to mention I'd have no problem eating a blade of grass, chugging down some fertilizer no thanks. Well I've smoke bud that hadn't been flushed early enough from harvest and it snap crackle an pops.
Kinddiesels got it co2 is supposed to work nicely.
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It should be easy to find a comparison of the chemical composition between the flushed and the unflushed buds then.
If unflushed buds do 'snap, crackle and pop' it would be interesting to know exactly what is the cause.
Personally I don't think this theory holds water
and that a kind of placebo effect, 'power of suggestion' thing takes place.

A few months ago I took a smoke to a group of buyers.
They asked me if it was flushed
I told them that the nutes were reduced but not completely discontinued.
They all did the pretentious wine tasting bit and talked about tasting the nutes.
A week later I took exactly the same smoke to the same group of connoisseur wannabe's.
This time I told them what they wanted to hear.
"Yes. This grower reduces on weeks 7 and 8, then gives only reverse osmosis water for weeks 9 and 10".
They enthusiastically discussed how much smoother it smoked and sweeter it tasted.
 
Thundercat

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To the OP: If this is your first grow congrats on your first harvest :)!! I'm sure its gonna be some lovely smoke esspecially if it really is tahoe. The one time smoked what I was "told" was Tahoe it was some killer smoke that tasted great.

It looks to me from the curling on the older lower growth that this plant has been fighting a deficiancy/toxicity for weeks. When the leaves "claw" like that its usually a sign of Nitrogen Toxicity. In turn other nutrients can get locked out and stop absorbing. Then the plant can't use the nutrients it needs even if you are providing them to it. Thus the plant is unable to produce as well. Now that being said many OG's don't yield heavily particularly without special training like Lst or scrog.



Mader89 what you smoked was bud that wasn't dried and cured properly which is why it snap crackled and popped.

I'm not gonna get into a big debate about flushing and I don't think anyone else should clutter his thread doing so. What I will say is once a grower learns hows to properly dry and cure their product, they need to try flushing and not flushing to see if there is a difference. We all grow diffferently, and there is no ONE right way. I flushed for several years when I first started growing and was still learning the basics. Then I started experimenting with trying different things and in some cases not trying them. I stopped flushing about 5 years ago and have never looked back. My friends that get to smoke a little, not knowing its mine, always rave about the flavors. They constantly say they don't understand how I get such good weed and they can never find anything like it. Thats just my experiance, I also do not try to force feed my plants nutes. I give them what they need and I let them eat right up till when I cut them.
 
skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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Mader89 said:
a plant and a animal have a completely different biological system and process things in different ways. Not to mention I'd have no problem eating a blade of grass, chugging down some fertilizer no thanks. Well I've smoke bud that hadn't been flushed early enough from harvest and it snap crackle an pops.
Kinddiesels got it co2 is supposed to work nicely.
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Plants grown in regular household conditions will be susceptible to dust and pet hair /human hair/dead skin etc
this contaminates the buds to a small degree it's very hard to avoid, the sticky buds attract all kinds of debris

professionally grown weed would be grown in a sealed environment
dust contamination could be eliminated

the snap crackle and pop you speak of is not plant food its contamination from the grow environment

this snap/crackle can also be direct contamination to increase weight

peace
 
Mader89

Mader89

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So there's no need to clutter up this thread with posts that don't apply to the question. https://www.rollitup.org/t/flush-or-not-to-flush-that-is-the-question.830198/ I made a thread hoping thundercat wouldn't mind throwing me a few tips I've never fed to the end an you've enticed me to to try it
Thundercat said:
To the OP: If this is your first grow congrats on your first harvest :)!! I'm sure its gonna be some lovely smoke esspecially if it really is tahoe. The one time smoked what I was "told" was Tahoe it was some killer smoke that tasted great.

It looks to me from the curling on the older lower growth that this plant has been fighting a deficiancy/toxicity for weeks. When the leaves "claw" like that its usually a sign of Nitrogen Toxicity. In turn other nutrients can get locked out and stop absorbing. Then the plant can't use the nutrients it needs even if you are providing them to it. Thus the plant is unable to produce as well. Now that being said many OG's don't yield heavily particularly without special training like Lst or scrog.



Mader89 what you smoked was bud that wasn't dried and cured properly which is why it snap crackled and popped.

I'm not gonna get into a big debate about flushing and I don't think anyone else should clutter his thread doing so. What I will say is once a grower learns hows to properly dry and cure their product, they need to try flushing and not flushing to see if there is a difference. We all grow diffferently, and there is no ONE right way. I flushed for several years when I first started growing and was still learning the basics. Then I started experimenting with trying different things and in some cases not trying them. I stopped flushing about 5 years ago and have never looked back. My friends that get to smoke a little, not knowing its mine, always rave about the flavors. They constantly say they don't understand how I get such good weed and they can never find anything like it. Thats just my experiance, I also do not try to force feed my plants nutes. I give them what they need and I let them eat right up till when I cut them.
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Bluntactics

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There is always that one guy!..lol

Nice buds! Enjoy the smoke! Instead of additives to make your yields bigger you should look into plant training, fimming, lst and such. Its a free way to increase bud sites! Your on the right path! :bigjoint:
 
hydroMD

hydroMD

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HINT:


Instead of using plain water to flush, use a bacteria innoculant with your micro nutrients at 1/3 strength. The bacteria will turn left over hard metals into soluble plant food letting the plant break down nutrients leftbin its root system more effeciantly. Even if you sont have bacteria, use a tiny bit of micro so your water is likr .2 ec and your plants will fliah better. They want nutrients, so if you add a tiny bit to the water they will uptake more h2o trying to get proper food and the result is an uptake of more water, flushing built uo jutes in the leaves more effeciently.


Bacteria is the way to go tho
 
ErieR33FER

ErieR33FER

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If you don't think flushing is important,maybe you havnt smoked nipper kush/dro.

While I'll smoke anything that shit is harsh as a mofucka.
I can definitely tell when someone didn't flush.

But it's all relative to what works for you, everyone's different in what they taste, expect, believe.
 
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Beblunted

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I just had a thought about flushing!
so what if the final two week flush is not ment to "clean"the bud
but more or less to get all the nutes that are left over. Like build ups or something.
that way nothing goes unused or gets left behind
just something I was thinking about. And figured I'd share
seems like it may make sense eay?
 
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