Im about done with this organic shit

How do you make your teas ghostsamurai? Are you just adding the ingredients to water and mixing or do you actually make tea by using an old pillowcase or something dunked in a bucket with an airstone? There's a big difference, and if you're doing it the first way I think that is at least part of your problem.

I would recommend trying a pre-mixed liquid organic fertilizer...like Botanicare of Blue Mountain Organics. I use BMO and absolutely love it. It's basically just pre-mixed teas with things like ecto/endo bacteria and mycorrhizal fungi...

Check out this link...it tells you exactly what's in their Super Plant Tonic. If you scroll to the bottom, there are links to similar pages describing their Grow it Green veg formula, Flower Power flowering formula and some other stuff they offer.

http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/tts/bmospt.html

The stuff is really inexpensive and really effective at the same time. They are closed today, so you can't browse their store and see prices. But check back tomorrow and they should be back up and running.

Jerry Garcia said:

How do you make your teas ghostsamurai? Are you just adding the ingredients to water and mixing or do you actually make tea by using an old pillowcase or something dunked in a bucket with an airstone? There's a big difference, and if you're doing it the first way I think that is at least part of your problem.

I would recommend trying a pre-mixed liquid organic fertilizer...like Botanicare of Blue Mountain Organics. I use BMO and absolutely love it. It's basically just pre-mixed teas with things like ecto/endo bacteria and mycorrhizal fungi...

Check out this link...it tells you exactly what's in their Super Plant Tonic. If you scroll to the bottom, there are links to similar pages describing their Grow it Green veg formula, Flower Power flowering formula and some other stuff they offer.

http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/tts/bmospt.html

The stuff is really inexpensive and really effective at the same time. They are closed today, so you can't browse their store and see prices. But check back tomorrow and they should be back up and running.

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Well put Jerry.... Im gonna check out BMO. Thanks for the tip.

I've never had any serious issues growing in soil. Germinate your seeds, once they pop, put them about a quarter inch in to the soil that has been moistened and cover them with loose soil. Provide adequate lighting and lighting cycles. Give them some fresh air now and then. Make sure you water them about every 2 to 3 days. You don't even need nutes, but they help. It will grow. Relax. Everybody loves you.

There is a lot to be said for complexity of simplicity. It's amazing how complicated people make it. First you have to grasp the concept. Everything after that is easy.

I used BMO after finishing a bottle of FF big bloom. I had to use double the dose rather than the usual 1/2 dose to get up to 600-700ppm...I finished a bottle of flower power and almost a bottle of the grow...I think I may have contaminated the bottle with great white...I have used a few bottles of the SPT with great results and pH swings if bubble with molasses.

I am now trying "Age Old" grow, bloom, and kelp...usually a little pH down goes a LONG way, but with this stuff it takes a LOT to knock it down to 6.0-6.3 in water that is already adjusted! It seems like something is buffering it????

I was tired of being freaked out by the crusty, SALTY build-up around the lids of the chemical nutes...pretty obvious what is happening in the medium if not very careful...My friends say they like the organic better, but I think it is just in their heads...but I feel it is better for my health

Oh and I have a half bottle of FF grow big (It goes a LONG way!) and a near full bottle of tiger bloom...it is super concentrated and a serious pH bomb...I have to chase it from the mid four's with pH up!!!! I have the trio also...all full...all this about $80 bucks just sitting on the shelf...don't even need it for house plants with leftovers and sometimes run-off!

So organic or chemical...pH problems can happen either way...The easiest for me for pH by far has been the BMO, flower power and grow it green, with nothing else...my water tends to bounce up from 6.0 to 6.3-6.4 over a few days, and the BMO knocks it down to 6.0 with no other adjustments...usually

Oh...and the girls so far seem to like being back in soil (from coco) and seem to respond well to the Age Old.

IgrowUgrow said:

Why is everybody against mg WTF my plants look great dark green and growing phenomenal.

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I don't even know what mg is, but dark green foliage is a sign of overfertilization

Southern.IL.Buds said:

I don't even know what mg is, but dark green foliage is a sign of overfertilization

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Magnesium.

edit...in this context, it seems to be Miracle Grow

Organics are so easy I'm not sure how so many have problems. The easiest way is to prepare your soiless mix a month or two in advance by using: 5 parts peat, 3 parts perlite, 2 parts earthworm castings and add to that dolomite lime at 2 tbs. per gallon. Then use that to start your plants in for the first week. When they start needing nutes then up-pot and either use your dry meals or guanos. If you do meals you should have that soil prepared as above for about a month, but with the addition of the meals for when you up-pot. You never ever have to worry about PH because of the dolomite lime and if you use the dry meals then you don't even have to put anything in the water except molasses if you choose to.

2 tbs/gallon of dolomite lime is quite a bit. Ive only seen 1 tbl/gallon ever recommended. What type of ph in your mix do you end up with that much?