Illegal vs hispanic

abe23

Active Member
So if you lose your job, it's not the fault of business that sent those jobs overseas or hires illegal immigrants to work in their slaughterhouse because they are less likely to complain about wages or conditions....it's the illegals' fault.

When a farmer from south of the border looses his ability to make a living because nafta has flooded markets across mexico with cheap subsidized corn from america and makes the difficult choice to leave his home and risk his life in order to make some money to support his family...it's his own damn fault.

And when people speak spanish at the supermarket, it's obviously because they're illegal....all legal americans speak english. Didn't you know?

And if there's someone going to home depot to pick up some day laborers and pay them tax-free under the table without having to worry about labor standards and whatnot, it's the fault of the illegals for making their labor available to him. He's not the criminal; he's just an entrepreneur taking advantage of inexpensive labor. It's the illegal who is the criminal.

And fdd....payroll taxes that are collected using fake or stolen social security amount to about $9 billion each year, which ends up covering a good chunk of grandma's pension.
 
Oh get out of here. Everybody had a problem with the italians when they were flooding the country after the war. I'm fairly certain they all bubbled in white and caucasean. The only difference, now, is 24/7 news channels and the internet harp on it all day long.

Lets not forget how the Irish were treated when we came...

I just thought I'd throw this video in...

[video=youtube;j3IQMHu59UI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3IQMHu59UI[/video]
 

Babs34

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:-|..I will say this thread is properly titled. I'm so glad to see all the BENEFITS I will be receiving for having my ss# stolen.
 

abe23

Active Member
Lets not forget how the Irish were treated when we came...

I just thought I'd throw this video in...

[video=youtube;j3IQMHu59UI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3IQMHu59UI[/video]
LOL!! That's what I'm talking about. This guy is out of fucking mind. I think he should be more worried keeling over from a heart attack within the next hour than about illegal immigrants, but yeah....

Just curious, does he have one where he rages against potsmokers too? Would love to see that.

Does he have a rant about
 

abe23

Active Member
Actually, if there were more young, educated immigrants coming to work here legally, social security might not be headed for bankruptcy....
 

natrone23

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So if you lose your job, it's not the fault of business that sent those jobs overseas or hires illegal immigrants to work in their slaughterhouse because they are less likely to complain about wages or conditions....it's the illegals' fault.

When a farmer from south of the border looses his ability to make a living because nafta has flooded markets across mexico with cheap subsidized corn from america and makes the difficult choice to leave his home and risk his life in order to make some money to support his family...it's his own damn fault.

And when people speak spanish at the supermarket, it's obviously because they're illegal....all legal americans speak english. Didn't you know?

And if there's someone going to home depot to pick up some day laborers and pay them tax-free under the table without having to worry about labor standards and whatnot, it's the fault of the illegals for making their labor available to him. He's not the criminal; he's just an entrepreneur taking advantage of inexpensive labor. It's the illegal who is the criminal.

And fdd....payroll taxes that are collected using fake or stolen social security amount to about $9 billion each year, which ends up covering a good chunk of grandma's pension.

WOW Strawman much.
 

natrone23

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i dont mind immigrants or mexicans at all in our country as long as they go thru the proper steps to be here.. its the illegals of any race or country that fuck up the job market and the economy, they dont contribute, they only take. thats wrong in my opinion. i happen to enjoy being around other races or mexicans specifically since u mentioned them , i work with many, i dont mind them speaking spanish around me...gives me an incentive and chance to learn. just like every other people there are assholes and problems associated with.

i understand the problems of many countries and why the people come here for a better life but that does not make it right to be here illegally.

be legal or get the fuck out!!!

I noticed Abe failed to address this well thought out post...............I guess it didn't fit into his narrative
 

UncleBuck

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I noticed Abe failed to address this well thought out post...............I guess it didn't fit into his narrative
it's not that well thought out....you try to claim that those here illegally don't contribute, that they only take. not true.
 

abe23

Active Member
Well than how about besides that point, How about the rest of the quote
What's so well thought out about it?

"if you're illegal gtfo, if you're legal then you're cool"...?

It's not that insightful. For one thing, whether someone is able to legally immigrate depends on arbitrary quotas and lotteries rather than on someone's skills, education or ability to integrate here. And my point all along has been that those artificial limits on legal immigration are the reason that some many people immigrate illegally to fill the gap. But you're right it, he probably isn't one of the people I'm talking about...

And I was making a point earlier that people will blame everything on illegal immigrants when they aren't really the core of the problem....for example, uninsured drivers aren't all illegal immigrants....neither are all murderers, child molesters and drug dealers. I don't like it when people single out a group to make into the scapegoat for all their problems. Just reading a few posts in this thread, you would think that america would be paradise on earth if it wasn't for illegal immigrants.
 

Mindmelted

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Sadly the info will be ignored by the likes of abe23...

As he would say it's just racist and xenophobic at best...
 

abe23

Active Member
Sadly the info will be ignored by the likes of abe23...

As he would say it's just racist and xenophobic at best...
No, but you've proven yourself to be both in this thread....

The site has a pretty clear agenda but some of those numbers are probably accurate. But the one that measures 'social costs' of immigrants doesn't include taxes paid by illegals for example. And the 'incarcerated illegals' is also a little bit misleading because it basically covers all aliens in US custody, which a bit broader. I would say they're slightly misleading but accurate for the most part.

The obvious compromise on immigration is tighter border security, revamping the green card/visa system and some form of amnesty for at least some of the people already here. Because the reality is that militarizing the border and deporting 20 million people from the country just aren't going to happen. But of course, the nativists don't want that.

By the way....do you guys also hate bush for trying to reform immigration? Because as much as I disliked him and his politics, I thought that was one of the better things he proposed.
 

Mindmelted

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No, but you've proven yourself to be both in this thread....
So says abe23 the enlightened one...Yeah right.

Why because i said the naacp is full of a bunch of cry babies and want reperations for slavery.

Hear that shit all the time down in the south.

Again abe23 the truth hurts huh.

And you my little simpleton, Would be amazed at the diffrent people i have for friends.
 

bajafox

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Remember, just because they come through Mexico, doesn't make them Mexican. There are A LOT of illegal immigrants coming from countries South of Mexico. They are all Hispanic, but they are not all Mexican

Don't forget about the one's who swim across too...
 
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