Ilgm honest review

Fart Vapor

Fart Vapor

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oldstoner60 said:
Stay far FAR away,
Here's a dated and order# and cost breakdown of my 3 experiences with ilgm,
1st order, 4/18/17, order #163288, didn't get order, stacy gave a reship and got my 10+10 white widow auto sent from europe, 19 grew to maturity, 1 didnt, EXCELLENT success rate on ilgm part,
2nd order, 9/14/18, order#325890, $109.00, 10+10 blue berry auto, AFTER I placed my order and it was confirmed I got a notice from ilgm that they were out of stock and would ship asap, (they sold my confirmed order out from under me),
Finally got my seeds (shipped from California this time, NOT europe),
Out of the 20 seeds, 4 grew to maturity, 3 died in first week, 13 didn't even germinate, POOR and lost $109.00 in the process because only 4 grew, screwed big time,
3rd order, 4/30/19, order#417966, $119.00, after the blue berry fiasco I figured I'd play it safe and order the white widow autos again,
Went with their 3rd option of their "recommended" payment method, and was informed they could no longer accept the money order option (after it was already recieved), but they must have accepted it because I was notified my order was on its way (from California once again and NOT europe like the 1st order),
Welp after 10 weeks I found/realized that they didnt send me autos, they sent me white widow photo fems, because after 8 weeks I had to go to a 12 12 schedule to get them to flower, nice little switch a roo there ilgm,
So I didn't even wind up with the autos I ordered, and I'm not even sure they're white widow, they're supposed to be indica dominate, but these clearly sativa dominant, (been growing for 40+ years, I KNOW the difference,
An interesting observation tho, the seeds I got from my 1st order shipped from europe and we're execellent,
Last 2 orders shipped from California and both orders were junk, are seeds being switched out by the California shipper?, read reviews on grow forums and you'll find that this is a common problem with the california ilgm shipper,
Now either ole bobs genetics have gone thru the floor, or he and customers are being duped by that california shipper, I don't know, and at this point I don't care anymore, between to botched orders I'm now out $230.00 for 2 orders of cappy seeds sent from california by ilgm,
Save your money, your 1st order will be good to suck you in, but once they got you, your subsequent orders could leave you NOT high and definitely dry (gotta have a Lil humor because I'm extreemly pissed, and the humor is keeping me from using words I don't want to use),
For me and my past experiences ilgm is out, nirvana or southern oregon seed will be where I order from now on, tired of getting screwed by ilgm, I do hope bob Bergman looks into the california shipper because I truely sense something nefarious is taking place that is not only pissin customers off, it also costing bob and ilgm future customers,
We'll off to other review sites, got a busy day ahead of me lol,
OH and this review I added the order numbers so it can be listed as confirmed orders,
BUYER BEWARE!!!!,
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I feel you! My first order came from Cali and I had 0, let me say that another way, ZERO out of 20 seeds germinate... the only thing keeping me from doing a backflip is their excellent customer support! They are shipping new seeds (hopefully not from those thieves in Cali). I will let you know how the next seeds germinate!!! Also, in my stressful situation... I ordered some Dutch Passion seeds from Seedsman... To summarize, I got 20 Fem White Widows coming from ILGM, 7 Auto Think Different - Dutch Passion, 3 Auto Mazar - Dutch Passion, 2 Seedsman Auto Northern Lights, and some other freebies Included in the Seedsman order. I’m super excited!
 
Raekwon da chef

Raekwon da chef

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ThE_420KING said:
all those seed companys me tioned are nothing special.

crop king blows 100%
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Agreed. Just finishing green crack run from their “beans” 5 plants every plant looks different. Unstable phenotypes and genes. Gc is also usually sativa dominate all the plants and seeds companies I’ve seen anyway. Theirs is indica dom so they say well , 2 are kinda as advertised. Very indica looking not to tall with tight bud structure. Other 3, 2 of which are sativa structure Very tall needed to lst the hell outta them and lanky airy buds. 2 were not very frosty at all. Long story short not great experience with thier beans. I have some lambs breath autos left but havnt popped em yet. I will say the smoke was decent and tasty after long cure but the dicey genetics is a no no to me anyway imho. ✌
 
Gratefultrip

Gratefultrip

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oldstoner60 said:
Stay far FAR away,
Here's a dated and order# and cost breakdown of my 3 experiences with ilgm,
1st order, 4/18/17, order #163288, didn't get order, stacy gave a reship and got my 10+10 white widow auto sent from europe, 19 grew to maturity, 1 didnt, EXCELLENT success rate on ilgm part,
2nd order, 9/14/18, order#325890, $109.00, 10+10 blue berry auto, AFTER I placed my order and it was confirmed I got a notice from ilgm that they were out of stock and would ship asap, (they sold my confirmed order out from under me),
Finally got my seeds (shipped from California this time, NOT europe),
Out of the 20 seeds, 4 grew to maturity, 3 died in first week, 13 didn't even germinate, POOR and lost $109.00 in the process because only 4 grew, screwed big time,
3rd order, 4/30/19, order#417966, $119.00, after the blue berry fiasco I figured I'd play it safe and order the white widow autos again,
Went with their 3rd option of their "recommended" payment method, and was informed they could no longer accept the money order option (after it was already recieved), but they must have accepted it because I was notified my order was on its way (from California once again and NOT europe like the 1st order),
Welp after 10 weeks I found/realized that they didnt send me autos, they sent me white widow photo fems, because after 8 weeks I had to go to a 12 12 schedule to get them to flower, nice little switch a roo there ilgm,
So I didn't even wind up with the autos I ordered, and I'm not even sure they're white widow, they're supposed to be indica dominate, but these clearly sativa dominant, (been growing for 40+ years, I KNOW the difference,
An interesting observation tho, the seeds I got from my 1st order shipped from europe and we're execellent,
Last 2 orders shipped from California and both orders were junk, are seeds being switched out by the California shipper?, read reviews on grow forums and you'll find that this is a common problem with the california ilgm shipper,
Now either ole bobs genetics have gone thru the floor, or he and customers are being duped by that california shipper, I don't know, and at this point I don't care anymore, between to botched orders I'm now out $230.00 for 2 orders of cappy seeds sent from california by ilgm,
Save your money, your 1st order will be good to suck you in, but once they got you, your subsequent orders could leave you NOT high and definitely dry (gotta have a Lil humor because I'm extreemly pissed, and the humor is keeping me from using words I don't want to use),
For me and my past experiences ilgm is out, nirvana or southern oregon seed will be where I order from now on, tired of getting screwed by ilgm, I do hope bob Bergman looks into the california shipper because I truely sense something nefarious is taking place that is not only pissin customers off, it also costing bob and ilgm future customers,
We'll off to other review sites, got a busy day ahead of me lol,
OH and this review I added the order numbers so it can be listed as confirmed orders,
BUYER BEWARE!!!!,
Click to expand...
I had a bad experience also they are expensive, bad genetics and bad customer service.
 
Fart Vapor

Fart Vapor

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No one responded to my seed choices:
From ILGM:
20 x White Widow (fem) - ILGM

From Seedsman:
7 x Dutch Passion - Think Different Auto Feminised Seeds
3 x Dutch Passion - Auto Mazar Feminised Seeds
2 x DUTCH PASSION - Meringue Fem
3 x Autoflowering Freebies – 3 Seedsman Northern Lights Auto
3 x Autoflowering Freebies – 3 Seedsman Strawberry Cheesecake Auto (LIMITED EDITION)

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john wishmyer

john wishmyer

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Ive gotten free shit from them and have yet to be dissapointed, they gave me 10 chocolope seeds and i just received 20 if their gold leaf strain. All product came sooner than expected and so far have had 100% germ rate. Just my 2cents.
 
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Samuelrosethomas

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I have had the same problem seeds came from California and they were all bad the last 2 times i have ordered !!! If it get my order replaced will not order from them again.
 
Fart Vapor

Fart Vapor

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Update: ILGM will replace any bad seeds with good seeds. The second batch of 20 White Widows have been popping 100%. Now, I’m on my 3rd attempt to grow past the seedling stage. This time I simply put a raw seed down into a 3 gallon pot of Happy Frog soil, minimally watered it on center, and put the pot under window light. It’s 3 inches now & I’m not watering it much at all, because this soil holds so much moisture. I feel like this could be the grow where I finally make it to the vegetative stage...
 
TreeFarmerCharlie

TreeFarmerCharlie

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I've purchased a fair amount through ILGM, but I'm cheap, so I always wait for the seeds I want to be offered at buy 10 get 10 free, and I haven't had any issues yet. I've honestly had a 100% germination rate with their seeds (Northern Lights, OG Kush, & Purple Haze) and they have all produce flower that I've been very happy with. I've received all my orders from them within 1 - 1.5 weeks and they also will replace any seeds that fail to germinate. While they don't offer any real boutique strains, they do have some good strains to choose from. I'm new here, so I hope nobody thinks I'm a "plant", but the picture in my avatar is from one of their OG Kush seeds that I currently have growing.
 
Fart Vapor

Fart Vapor

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Update: Dutch Passion original "sealed" package seeds ordered through Seedsman are really starting to impress me. I am about to start a grow journal!
 
coltrain

coltrain

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Another review here. I've done about 5 different strains in the last 2 years at about 5 seeds a harvest. As far as I can tell the genetics have been average to sub-average. The yields have been way lighter than I personally expect from myself.

From what I can tell, all their strains need a lot of veg time (even if its a sativa dom), and despite having at least 4 out of 5 strains that were supposed to be sativa dom strains took 8 weeks to flower...they grew about to the height I expected but the weight was never there and you will need to work probalby a bit harder to pull more than 2 oz per plant on an 2 month veg cycle.

Keep your tops few and keep your under growth suckers trimmed out if you want full tops with low amounts of fluff.

Most strains did pass my own smell test as far as being true to the strain they at least say they trying to mimic, so either they are just buying bottom shelf seeds and reselling or are breeding their own seeds (which seems to be the case)...so on the good side they are trying...but they need to get a better stock to breed from if that's what they are doing...or they a breeding low yielding strains on purpose...my own tin foil hat theory about some seed vendors...

I'm doing one last grow then throwing the rest in the freezer, my overall take is the smoke is decent but all the other negatives outweigh the positives on all 5 strains so far, and I want to move on to other strains from other breeders. Nothing has been what I consider a keeper, but I will say their blue cheese has a very delicious smell and the smoke was decent. The veg times to get a good yield on anything I grew...absolute deal killer....

I'm pretty sure one of their breeder parents is an indica dom hybrid...i've never had a sativa dom hybrid take 10+ weeks to veg before for the amounts I usually expect.
 
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Kushking#79

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coltrain said:
Another review here. I've done about 5 different strains in the last 2 years at about 5 seeds a harvest. As far as I can tell the genetics have been average to sub-average. The yields have been way lighter than I personally expect from myself.

From what I can tell, all their strains need a lot of veg time (even if its a sativa dom), and despite having at least 4 out of 5 strains that were supposed to be sativa dom strains took 8 weeks to flower...they grew about to the height I expected but the weight was never there and you will need to work probalby a bit harder to pull more than 2 oz per plant on an 2 month veg cycle.

Keep your tops few and keep your under growth suckers trimmed out if you want full tops with low amounts of fluff.

Most strains did pass my own smell test as far as being true to the strain they at least say they trying to mimic, so either they are just buying bottom shelf seeds and reselling or are breeding their own seeds (which seems to be the case)...so on the good side they are trying...but they need to get a better stock to breed from if that's what they are doing...or they a breeding low yielding strains on purpose...my own tin foil hat theory about some seed vendors...

I'm doing one last grow then throwing the rest in the freezer, my overall take is the smoke is decent but all the other negatives outweigh the positives on all 5 strains so far, and I want to move on to other strains from other breeders. Nothing has been what I consider a keeper, but I will say their blue cheese has a very delicious smell and the smoke was decent. The veg times to get a good yield on anything I grew...absolute deal killer....

I'm pretty sure one of their breeder parents is an indica dom hybrid...i've never had a sativa dom hybrid take 10+ weeks to veg before for the amounts I usually expect.
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My Sativas always take way longer then my Indica dom plants ,Sativa needs more time too veg then a true indica always..
 
CarolinaPothead

CarolinaPothead

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Well, I was a newb to autos and led lights this grow. ILGM ww auto. I blundered everything up bad. Super low pH 5.5 (ouch) overwatering, 24hr light cycle, cal mag deficiency. You name it. And after 96 days from germ. I have 3 for 3 decent, sugar coated, tight nug plants that smell great. About 10 percent amber trichomes,so I'm going to leave em for another week then put em under 48 her dark. I'll let y'all know how it smokes
 
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Livingblacksoil

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CarolinaPothead said:
Well, I was a newb to autos and led lights this grow. ILGM ww auto. I blundered everything up bad. Super low pH 5.5 (ouch) overwatering, 24hr light cycle, cal mag deficiency. You name it. And after 96 days from germ. I have 3 for 3 decent, sugar coated, tight nug plants that smell great. About 10 percent amber trichomes,so I'm going to leave em for another week then put em under 48 her dark. I'll let y'all know how it smokes
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No flush?
 
CarolinaPothead

CarolinaPothead

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They have only had distilled water for the last week. I didn't use many nutes. I used ffof by itself until flower started, then I only used cal mag and tiger bloom. Only like a 1/3 dose and only a few times. Like I said alot of mistakes made. I've got a decent pH meter now and mychorrizae to help me control it. My well water swings wildly. As low as 5.2 once. But I'm not blaming ILGM for anything. They all sprouted and survived my learning curve. And it might not be the flame flame, but it's the best looking and smelling stuff I've ever grown. I'm flowering my photos next and then I have 20 gg4 auto beans to play with. They do all look different so obviously not stable genetics but they all have their own pluses. These pics are almost 3 weeks old before someone says that they aren't ready. They will be next week
 

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A couple more pics. I didn't have any trouble sprouting them and they grew perfectly until flower started then I began chasing problems and earning my learning. I was ready to give up and start over but Wattzzup and a few others here convinced me things weren't beyond fixing. Now a month later it paid off. I'm stoked for next time already
 

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CarolinaPothead

CarolinaPothead

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About 100 days from sprout. All the calyxes are swelling out like emerald buttons. Got a quality loupe and it's got fewer amber than I thought and still has more clear than I want. Finally I think I can say with fair certainty that I have about 10-14 days. Ilgm says it flowers in 90 days but I think it's gonna be at least 110. They smell very fruity.
 

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