If Your a New Grower, You're gonna wanna see this!

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hogbud

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So esteemed guest what's your take on Defoliation? Do you think guys can get their plants to produce moe buds by eliminating leaves ? Love it or leave it?
Even Uncle Ben likes my Defoil method :hump:

In my first book I started Chapter 13 by saying I was gonna show you how to get a pound off 2 plants (missed it by 7 grams) and it is my defoil method that made it work
 

dannyboy602

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Even Uncle Ben likes my Defoil method :hump:

In my first book I started Chapter 13 by saying I was gonna show you how to get a pound off 2 plants (missed it by 7 grams) and it is my defoil method that made it work
cool beans hog man. glad to see you're open to try new things. not a ben fan though, he's a mean ole drinker.
so what method did you use to defoil and can you link me to it?
 

hogbud

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came home for lunch 8)

ever ride a bike and get a sunburn because the wind made it so you didn't feel the sun?

ever notice that if is 80 degrees outside it feels hotter if there is no shade?

ever compared the temp between shade and direct sunlight?

this natural relationship is the most misunderstood tool in our arsenal. Plants are little machines when everything is dialed in properly (everything includes ALL elements) Plants want heat, they want the canopy to be higher (temp) than ambient, a 12 to 15 degree difference is ideal (and very hard to get in a sealed tent or room) In my room I keep the ambient between 74 and 78 degrees, I keep my canopy between 89 and 92 degrees, You can not do this with a cool tube !!! Not to mention that the photons from your light are passing thru glass before they get the plant, some of which is degraded, some never gets thru (a light meter would show you this)

If you go to http://growhappyplants.com/ and look at all the pics (on several pages) you can see my canopy temp/humidity are at 91 degrees with 42% humidity (gotta look close) you also see that I have T5's over 2 feet away from the top of the canopy. This area is in a 500 sq ft room that is completely open !!! which is why the ambient is only 78 degrees, the only place the room gets hot is under the lights at the canopy. Temp measured down by the pots is 78 degrees (same as ambient) which translates in to root zone temps (which are just as important)

Most simply do not understand these relationships, Hell I took a 50 watt LED light and made it grow just as much as 2 400 watt CMH's and the LED was 5 feet above the canopy (yes I have pics) Folks can bash the stuff I say all they want to but I'll continue to stand on, the truth is always the truth
 
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hogbud

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cool beans hog man. glad to see you're open to try new things. not a ben fan though, he's a mean ole drinker.
so what method did you use to defoil and can you link me to it?
sorry no, is only documented on my site but will be in the new book, I know not everyone can afford to buy books Tio is a member of my site and he is not so cranky there :bigjoint:
 

Grow&Grow

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QUOTE="hogbud, post: 10516455, member: 877410"]it's all science and logic and would take me a bit to explain, right now I'm at work but if there is a real interest I could write a ditty when I get home[/QUOTE]
it's all science and logic and would take me a bit to explain, right now I'm at work but if there is a real interest I could write a ditty when I get home
Drop it, Im interested.:leaf:
 

hogbud

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The LED light thing, just a few pics note the light is hard mounted , plants are on the floor, 1st plant under CMH (800 watts, 2 400's) 2nd plant under the LEDS_SAM_0204.JPG S_SAM_0238.JPG S_SAM_0243.JPG
 

Southerner

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ever ride a bike and get a sunburn because the wind made it so you didn't feel the sun?
Riding a bike does absolutely nothing to prevent UV rays from the sun from reaching you.

I just wanted to add that my plants grow so much better when I wear a yellow tshirt in the grow room, its all I wear now. DO IT OR YOUR WEED SUCKS*.



* Buy my book. Also, correlation does not equal causation.
 
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hogbud

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Riding a bike does absolutely nothing to prevent UV rays from the sun from reaching you.

I just wanted to add that my plants grow so much better when I wear a yellow tshirt in the grow room, its all I wear now. DO IT OR YOUR WEED SUCKS*.
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but the wind keeps you from FEELING it

and where can I get one of those shirts ???
 

ru4r34l

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Even Uncle Ben likes my Defoil method :hump:

In my first book I started Chapter 13 by saying I was gonna show you how to get a pound off 2 plants (missed it by 7 grams) and it is my defoil method that made it work
I don't believe you as defoliation goes against commercial growers.

regards,
 

mr sunshine

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Is it safe to say this method works for you and the strains your running...but may not work for all strains....and is it almost safe to say i should be the one writing a book not you?
 

hogbud

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Is it safe to say this method works for you and the strains your running...but may not work for all strains....and is it almost safe to say i should be the one writing a book not you?
it is safe to say that I have run over 70 strains thru my garden in past several years and it worked for all of em. It is true that I mostly do grow my own strains here lately but am getting ready to mix in some original Neville's Haze in by crossing it to one of mine

let me save you some typin,,,,,,

how do you know it's original , where did you get it?

From Neville :hump:

and as far as you writing a book, I have no idea, I don't know you, I did see your thread though with the dead plants, sorry not actually dead yet, now if you fix em and yield 2 elbows I think you should write a book
 

mr sunshine

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U cant fix perfection .....i like you, your cocky and your hard to offend! Are most of your strains sativas? I lean twards indica myself... my plants got raid sprayed on them my gf was trying to kill a fly with raid and some landed on those plants they are unsaveable i know this because im a very experienced grower....
 
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