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Abiqua
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Wisher2
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you know if that is 168 watts of single diode....I would much rather run 2 more CXB 3590's at 2.1a giving me 150w of cob......
@n0kG4
if you are not intimidated by diy....you should buy a single COB kit from cutter
http://www.cutter.com.au/proddetail.php?prod=cut2901
and a simple driver and mount it outside of the cabinent
I would say for $150.00 you would be killing it in that little box
@n0kG4
if you are not intimidated by diy....you should buy a single COB kit from cutter
http://www.cutter.com.au/proddetail.php?prod=cut2901
and a simple driver and mount it outside of the cabinent
I would say for $150.00 you would be killing it in that little box
Big smo
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I was 8 watts off. My rent? Haven't paid rent since I was a child. You say there is little mark up, well how can Amare sell the same cobs and include 176 watts of Cree leds and uv for nearly the same price. Yes I'm stoked about the light and that would have been that, one post happy as a pig in shit. but it was followed by a bunch rent payers cutting up a great company. If I like something and Someone else doesn't you could either say nice light or shut the fuck up or you could continue to spit bulshit then what? Ask me if they pay my rent.
Hybridway
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The diodes (XPE2) are colored to enhance spectrum. Spectrum matters BTW. It's also a well known fact that monos w/ lens emit a more intense light (one reason Amare has higher par readings). There's some mono benefits.
The 120 reflector combined w/ the 90• lens allows that same COB to produce approx 35% more intensity (another reason for higher par measurements).
I'd say those are some pretty big distinguishing factors, NO?
Big smo
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Sold me, sold others and many more to come. I'm vegging under them right now and the plants haven't looked happier. It was worth the extra money in my opinion.
JorgeGonzales
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Man if that's 168W of diodes it only leaves about 250W for those 6 cobs after losses
Spoken like a true Mercedes leaser.
Big smo
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It's always something and I'm glad your adding your bs too Jorge, People are gonna hate no matter the situation. I suppose the handicapped will never understand
JorgeGonzales
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Sorry, this thread is just making me laugh.
Thanks for the watts meter. I was genuinely curious how the 450W was carved up.
Thanks for the watts meter. I was genuinely curious how the 450W was carved up.
Wisher2
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@Hybridway
is there any third party data backing up the claim that this is important....
theory is just that theory....and with no data then it is just UC textbook material
COBS have been proven that is why they use them....but throwing some singles up there and calling it proprietary technology and all that....claiming that is does great things.....dude I ran hps for ever and my plants are always praying....literally not even at lights out do they droop
@Big smo
must be nice to have no bills and a disposable income ......but for your average citizen that has responsibilities.....spending $1200.00 on a light that I can get from a light paying 700.00 for well that extra 500 just dosent cut the musturd....and I am not talking the "special price you got" I am taking msrp.....
I am in no way trying to talk down about Amare.....just cant wrap my common sense around the advantage of paying that high of a price.....
is there any third party data backing up the claim that this is important....
theory is just that theory....and with no data then it is just UC textbook material
COBS have been proven that is why they use them....but throwing some singles up there and calling it proprietary technology and all that....claiming that is does great things.....dude I ran hps for ever and my plants are always praying....literally not even at lights out do they droop
@Big smo
must be nice to have no bills and a disposable income ......but for your average citizen that has responsibilities.....spending $1200.00 on a light that I can get from a light paying 700.00 for well that extra 500 just dosent cut the musturd....and I am not talking the "special price you got" I am taking msrp.....
I am in no way trying to talk down about Amare.....just cant wrap my common sense around the advantage of paying that high of a price.....
REALSTYLES
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That's why I preach DIY lol @Hybridway and @Big smo Amare's lights are good lights but the price isn't and if I were to sell lights they'd be expensive as hell, they would be at least 61% efficient and passively cool thus the higher price due to material costs. But I like people to be resourceful and if you can build it, you can fix it. @Wisher2 it's about $700 to make a CXB3590 400w like I did and it's 56% efficient and I don't run any AC.
Big smo
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I paid 800 and the Competitors was 725. Very little difference. Now the price is 1145 and covers 4x4 where most cover 3x3. For my space I needed 3 Amare or 4 of the other. Now for anyone on a budget or not the additional 2 years of warranty is worth something too. Imagine spending 725 and having the bitch burn out at the 3 year mark?
A lot of this I have said before but I will say it again because you may not have read it. I offered more money to victor to divide my shipment since there was a delay on getting 3 lights out. His reply was its not about the money and next day I had a shipping notification. as for the monos there are probably 50 lights that use these 5 watt Cree chips alone. There are 60 of them, the drivers, wiring everything all this has value. My 12 plants are bathed in beautiful white light as we speak. If Amare sold just a 6 cob light the price wouldnt be 1145 it would be the same as the rest.
As for dig towards my personal life, there are all types of people in this world. Some who have shit handed to them, some who bust their ass and others who just are happy skating by. At an early age I knew where I wanted to be in life and my motivation has never slowed down. Yes I can pay for expensive lights but I worked 12 hour days for 5 years straight to get here. Now I'm at a transition where life is much easier financially but that sure as shit dosnt mean I will be foolish with spending. I have already made every penny back that I invested into growing after 1 run. These lights were paid fir before I spent the money.
Over and out. I came to these forums to learn from others and possibly share any info I may have. I surely didn't come here to listen to absolute bullshit and deal with some of the most unstable people I have experienced in my life. All over a light. A good one too. It's a shame that this is allowed.
A lot of this I have said before but I will say it again because you may not have read it. I offered more money to victor to divide my shipment since there was a delay on getting 3 lights out. His reply was its not about the money and next day I had a shipping notification. as for the monos there are probably 50 lights that use these 5 watt Cree chips alone. There are 60 of them, the drivers, wiring everything all this has value. My 12 plants are bathed in beautiful white light as we speak. If Amare sold just a 6 cob light the price wouldnt be 1145 it would be the same as the rest.
As for dig towards my personal life, there are all types of people in this world. Some who have shit handed to them, some who bust their ass and others who just are happy skating by. At an early age I knew where I wanted to be in life and my motivation has never slowed down. Yes I can pay for expensive lights but I worked 12 hour days for 5 years straight to get here. Now I'm at a transition where life is much easier financially but that sure as shit dosnt mean I will be foolish with spending. I have already made every penny back that I invested into growing after 1 run. These lights were paid fir before I spent the money.
Over and out. I came to these forums to learn from others and possibly share any info I may have. I surely didn't come here to listen to absolute bullshit and deal with some of the most unstable people I have experienced in my life. All over a light. A good one too. It's a shame that this is allowed.
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hi guys i am just wondering about drivers, for example, a hlg-185-c1400, i know this driver is capable of handling up to four 36v cobs, but what would happen if i only chose to run 3 of these cobs on this driver, would the driver just run at 75% of power draw, since there is only 3 cobs, or will it redistubute the power to the other 3 cobs? im also wondering if the amps would change? , like would the 1400ma change into 1750-2100ma or somthing ? im pretty clueless here lol hope ths makes sense
REALSTYLES
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It will stay 1400ma, but you will have the option to add that last cob down the road.
Wisher2
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@REALSTYLES
I completely agree with you 100%
That is what I was kinda eluding to....I dont fully understand the hype over brands when it comes to the same components and drive currents.....it's kinda like buying a car but my car is red so it goes faster then the green one.......just because the casing is differ dosent mean the light will outperform another of the same build...
I really like all the cob company's
from my perspective...I believe a company like Amare....is just playing into a Niche grower myth about UV and single color diodes....and marking up 500msrp on said technology.....
@Big smo
I was only commenting on the fact that you havnt had to pay rent/mortage since a child....must be nice
now as for unstable.......have you re-read any of your posts??
the only reason I am entertaining your grandiose, slightly delusional state....well is because I find it semi amusing.
Running HID for so many years....it would always strike me as odd at how intense people would get over what brand is better..."HAVE TO RUN EYE HORTI's BRO"......dude I ran effing $15.00 plantmax and killed it......because I am a skilled grower, not because my lights were amazing......as are alot of people are on these forums...running LED is really about efficiency.....to me spending extra money on single diodes are like the dudes that run supplemental CFL with there HPS......like they are innovative......
Amare fixtures.......didnt I read someone claim they put out the most photons to the canopy......or.......where is the data.....where is the 3rd party testing......come on....they have been out for a while.....didnt someone claim on this thread that they have been using 3590's since last summer....really....and they are just now talking about updating there website....man on every forum I am a member of.....anyone who is backing Amare.....has the shittyiest , most delusional arrogant attitude of any a person I have come across.....very bad reputation is building....
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I completely agree with you 100%
That is what I was kinda eluding to....I dont fully understand the hype over brands when it comes to the same components and drive currents.....it's kinda like buying a car but my car is red so it goes faster then the green one.......just because the casing is differ dosent mean the light will outperform another of the same build...
I really like all the cob company's
from my perspective...I believe a company like Amare....is just playing into a Niche grower myth about UV and single color diodes....and marking up 500msrp on said technology.....
@Big smo
I was only commenting on the fact that you havnt had to pay rent/mortage since a child....must be nice
now as for unstable.......have you re-read any of your posts??
the only reason I am entertaining your grandiose, slightly delusional state....well is because I find it semi amusing.
Running HID for so many years....it would always strike me as odd at how intense people would get over what brand is better..."HAVE TO RUN EYE HORTI's BRO"......dude I ran effing $15.00 plantmax and killed it......because I am a skilled grower, not because my lights were amazing......as are alot of people are on these forums...running LED is really about efficiency.....to me spending extra money on single diodes are like the dudes that run supplemental CFL with there HPS......like they are innovative......
Amare fixtures.......didnt I read someone claim they put out the most photons to the canopy......or.......where is the data.....where is the 3rd party testing......come on....they have been out for a while.....didnt someone claim on this thread that they have been using 3590's since last summer....really....and they are just now talking about updating there website....man on every forum I am a member of.....anyone who is backing Amare.....has the shittyiest , most delusional arrogant attitude of any a person I have come across.....very bad reputation is building....
Food for Thought
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okay thanks, =) does the 0-10v resistive dimmer, change the mAh current from 1400 down to 0? and wont make it go higher then 1400?
VenomGrower6990
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I am running over 550 watts with two led lights so im not sure if running 1 600W HPS would be better or not (For energy savings)? As for the heat problems i don't want them. I have never run HPS or MH but i am just seeing what his grow will produce. I am ordering a 8 bulb T5 setup with 6500K for veg and going to add 1 bulb for UV. I love the idea of being able to mix my spectrum with the T5 setup. I also like how i can mix the bulbs for different spectrum of light. It also can be a backup/test for future grows.
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