If Tax cuts create jobs

ctwalrus

ctwalrus

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im gonna go out on a limb here...
raising or lowering taxes, neither create jobs by themselves

to create mass amounts of jobs the environment needs to be just right for them.
id say no taxes would be PART of a perfect environment.. but there is so much that goes into the perfect job environment, there is a lot to fix.. and a lot of people will disagree on what needs fixing
my opinion is the first thing that should be fixed is the money that the people with the jobs are getting paid with
second is this buddy buddy thing the government and big corporations have going on
third would be outsourcing

really if you look back through history when the market was "free-est" pre 1880.. youll see that we as a country were booming and had been for a good 100+ years...
free market with good currency = perfect environment for job creation
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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MellowFarmer said:
I don't dispute that I know very little of the sciencey things. what I do dispute is doing absolutely nothing over the alleged climate change threat considering those who are knowledgeable can't agree. I am remembering ta heated debate over the world being flat not that long ago. not to mention the only people it would hurt to not believe it is the oil people .
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If your definition of not that long ago is ~2,200 years ago, what's your definition of long ago?

I like the logic of only hurting oil companies. How about paying a spent nuclear fuel rod tax. A gas guzzler tax. A mandatory fluorescent replacement. Carbon footprint tax on new cars. TV recycling tax upon purchase of new TVs. Redemption value on bottles. Seems the ones making out are the those in government.

The world has been here,billions of years. It's been bombarded by comets, solar flares, gamma bursts and a whole lot of things worse than humans. We are but a gnat in the scheme of the planet's life.

In conclusion global alarmists are scam artists preying on the fears of the gullible do-gooders.
 
MellowFarmer

MellowFarmer

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if you were watching two evenly matched teams play baseball and noticed the runs scored being unevenly distributed to the team that paid the Umps salary would this cause such a debate?

why no remarks on my fun trivia fact that until Carter for most of that century the top tax bracket paid 70 some to 90 some % ?
 
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Hemlock

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Obama only creates min wage job so we can all stay dependant on the Gov.

I know you alll don't wanna hear it but we all did better under the repubs
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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MellowFarmer said:
if you were watching two evenly matched teams play baseball and noticed the runs scored being unevenly distributed to the team that paid the Umps salary would this cause such a debate?

why no remarks on my fun trivia fact that until Carter for most of that century the top tax bracket paid 70 some to 90 some % ?
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Government selective redistribution FTW!
 
ink the world

ink the world

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beenthere said:
Upward wealth redistribution? LOL
To redistribute wealth, one must first own the wealth!
Other than Romney opposing MMJ, which at least he is up front and honest about, unlike the liar Obama, the rest of your claims are FOS, just like you.
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I do have wealth, his tax policies will tax me more in order to fund cuts to those at the very top.

My claims aren't full of shit, you might not agree; but that doesn't change fact.

Republicans DID oppose Ledbetter
Republicans ARE suppressing votes, one has admitted so
His tax policy raises middle income taxes
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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ink the world said:
Republicans ARE suppressing votes, one has admitted so
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You found one? One? Well, goddamn. Out of the millions of Republicans out there, one guy apparently speaks for all of them?

Fuck, overturn the 9th circuit court decision and the SCOTUS decision, they found a guy who tells it like they want to hear it. He must be the Grand High Poobah if his lone voice is sooo powerful.

Did I lay the dripping sarcasm on thick enough, or should I continue?
 
ink the world

ink the world

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MuyLocoNC said:
You found one? One? Well, goddamn. Out of the millions of Republicans out there, one guy apparently speaks for all of them?

Fuck, overturn the 9th circuit court decision and the SCOTUS decision, they found a guy who tells it like they want to hear it. He must be the Grand High Poobah if his lone voice is sooo powerful.

Did I lay the dripping sarcasm on thick enough, or should I continue?
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Ya, this might come as a shock but most people don't openly admit to their misdeeds.

Facts speak for themselves, voter fraud is basically nonexistent. The voter fraud issue is just a front to keep certain people from voting. Coincidence that those certain people usually vote dem. and that the bills have all come from R's?
This is an organized movement from 1 side to keep people from the other side from exercising their most fundamental right. It's disgusting
 
ink the world

ink the world

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Hemlock said:
Obama only creates min wage job so we can all stay dependant on the Gov.

I know you alll don't wanna hear it but we all did better under the repubs
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Yep, it's Obamas fault Walmart doesn't pay a living wage. Because, they always did before he was on office right?
 
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NoDrama

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ChesusRice said:
Walmart workers

Were a sizable portion of medicaid recipients in most states for awhile
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If government made companies stop buying cheap Chinese manufactured goods,so that the workers had more pay and better benefits. would China stop buying US treasuries?
 
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ChesusRice

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NoDrama said:
If government made companies stop buying cheap Chinese manufactured goods,so that the workers had more pay and better benefits. would China stop buying US treasuries?
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Blah blah blah

If corporations had there way
minimum wage would be .50 cents an hour
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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ChesusRice said:
Blah blah blah

If corporations had there way
minimum wage would be .50 cents an hour
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And nobody would work for minimum wage... So what is your point?

BTW, do you know who pays .50 cents an hour? The federal government when you are incarcerated.

Working is voluntary. Nobody would do a job for .50 an hour. Someone might do the job for less than you would but that is not a crime. Well, it is since the federal government made it one...
 
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ChesusRice

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NLXSK1 said:
And nobody would work for minimum wage... So what is your point?

BTW, do you know who pays .50 cents an hour? The federal government when you are incarcerated.

Working is voluntary. Nobody would do a job for .50 an hour. Someone might do the job for less than you would but that is not a crime. Well, it is since the federal government made it one...
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NLXSK1 said:
If Obama promised to Legalize marijuana the first day of his 2nd term I still wouldnt vote for him.
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I will count you as
"anyone but a black man"
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Grandpapy said:
Without holidays!
Most of the advanced societies give 4 weeks vacation.
One day, we might get there.
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Most of the *advanced* societies have unemployment in the double digits... One day we might get there too if Obama has his way.

BTW, you can get 4 weeks of vacation in America. I think what you mean is that the government forces your company to pay you for 4 weeks off. Why not just ask for 4 months? I mean hell, while you are at it...
 
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ChesusRice

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NLXSK1 said:
Most of the *advanced* societies have unemployment in the double digits... One day we might get there too if Obama has his way.

BTW, you can get 4 weeks of vacation in America. I think what you mean is that the government forces your company to pay you for 4 weeks off. Why not just ask for 4 months? I mean hell, while you are at it...
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Haiti, somalia
must be your dream countrys

To bad they are filled with those black people Huh?
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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ChesusRice said:
I will count you as
"anyone but a black man"
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Yes, lets not address the issues and instead attack the poster. Common tactic of the liberal left.

I am not focused on which candidate will legalize marijuana, that is not a key issue in this election for me.

Obama is incapable of leading the country, coming up with solutions for the economy, etc. He is only able to toss billions of dollars to his bundlers, play golf, campaign and follow a left wing ideology somewhere past socialism.

Yet somehow, out of all that you manage to think it is a race issue... You are a fucking moron.
 
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