If atheist don't have Faith, how do They buy Faith n Evolution???

Dick Moser

It's easy to believe something if no one challenges your faith isn't it? That's why scientist get so pissed when some one challenges their knowledge. They are not used to being challenged. Most idiots just trust that, if he is a SCIENTIST, he must be right.

Christians are used to their faith being challenged. We get it all the time. I don't get pissed when some one challenges me. I take what they say and give them my opinion.

You must be insecure. Obviously because no one requires you to explain your shallow beliefe system.

But go ahead and fantasize beating my head in. Maybe this shit is just too deep for you.

P.S. your dick is showing.

Science thrives on challenges. Every scientific hypothesis describes ways in which the hypothesis can be disproved and there are no shortage of scientists willing to go out and disprove someone else's work. Without people challenging and questioning the status quo, science would stagnate. They are very used to being challenged my friend. You have everything backward.

Religion OTOH is dogmatic and is threatened by ideas that question underlying principles. Many religious people do get offended when their beliefs are challenged. Some Xtians, even on this website, have claimed that mere questioning and countering Xtian claims was a form of persecution, that science and the 'liberal' courts have somehow usurped God's authority and things like the concept of church/state separation and teaching evolution is somehow unfair and persecutes the faithful.

Atheism is not a belief system. Atheism by itself, makes no claims. It is the rejection of a claim that is made by theists. If no one claimed there were gods, then there would be no atheists.

dude the shit is neck deep and your swimming in it....but you make more fun of your self then i do i just have to keep you talking and you make me feel like Einsteins smarter better looking older brother, and i think you would cringe if you knew what i was thinking about doing to your head.....bbooonnnggggg. and i know pointing things out doesnt really seem to faze the fog of dumb you live in...but didnt YOU just question us????? and i use us as a loose term, cause i am slightly more buddist then athiest, i just dont like you or dumb people in general (yea im talking to you christens) but dude for real i would love to crusade all over your face. LOVE TO.

mijobe said:

Dear weedforcash

I am a athiest. my answer to your question is. If you read the bible and really understand what it says you might see my point of view. Beside being the largest selling piece of fiction every printed, it is the most degrading, and be littling thing written about women. religion was written by men for the sheer purpose control and power, power over women and power over the masses. If there was a god why would it pick one gender over another to control the other. If your god is the loving thing it is supposed be, it would not of made one person more superior than the other. I could go on but that is my point of view.

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You say God made man to rule over woman, but that women should be equal.

but man and woman are not equal. Look at our bodies. They are different. What ever created you made you less physically then the male species.

But this does not make you less IMPORTANT. God made you VERY important. You just have a different roll to play in life.

Woman have what woman have
Men have what men have.

Who every you choose for WHY that is, you still have to accept it. So how can you say you don't believe in God because of what is a FACT. How can you hate God and not hate EVOLUTION if that is how you were made.

what are you saying?

HAHAHAHA BI GOT BIGOT!!!! white trash. if every part of a car isnt equal then why does it need all the parts??????? your saying you cant have a positive without a negitive (or at least implying heavily) and almost stating you believe men to be MORE physically (although your def lacking upstairs) and implying MORE in other ways by omission. dude YOU ARE SO LAME...i am totally done with this thread, although i am satisfied to have been a part of it and to everyone else reading this with half a spark of congnitive thought flickering between their ears RUNNN AWAY!!!!!!!!!! THIS GUY IS AN IDIOT!!!!!!! IT IS WOSE THEN THANKSGIVING AT THE INLAWS!!!!!!!!

Dude, I don't even need to make fun of you. You got it covered.

My original question was, how can athiest dog faith when they require it just like Christians do.

I don't know what the fuck you are talking about. But vent all you want.

I'll catch a Net Flick while you waist your time here. Have a ball.

P.S. Who the HELL goes to a religious forum and then THREATENS people because they have a fucking point of view???

That has to the the SHALLOWEST fucking person on the planet to say I want to kick your ass because I went into a RELIGIOUS forum and found your fucking post.

What the hell man??? And you say I'm dumb?

Wow, a religious nutbar trashing science for killing your god. Your a few centuries too late my good man, the people that believe the earth is flat and locked up gallaleo for saying it wasn't the center of the universe are all back in the dark ages. We are a free thinking-rational society now, you should hop the next freighter to afghanistan and join the taliban in their war against reason and science, their world views are much more in line with yours. Open your eyes Flanders!!

palerider said:

Wow, a religious nutbar trashing science for killing your god. Your a few centuries too late my good man, the people that believe the earth is flat and locked up gallaleo for saying it wasn't the center of the universe are all back in the dark ages. We are a free thinking-rational society now, you should hop the next freighter to afghanistan and join the taliban in their war against reason and science, their world views are much more in line with yours. Open your eyes Flanders!!

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Wow, free thinkers. Yes I know all about free thinkers. They are the kids in schools today that freely think they can BLOW other kids away.

And then there are the gangs of free thinking people killing each other because they REPRESENT a different set of people that FREE think.

And then there are the free thinking women that are spreading AIDS accross America.

And what do you know. Religion taught us NOT to be those WONDERFUL people.

Thank goodness religion is dead.

Well, I guess you better not look in the phone book under church. There wouldn't possibly even be a secion for those.....

God is dead right?

God is dead, I think somewhere between your innate oppressive nature and all those god fearing preachers with a penchant for little boys the religious right has done the work of the aethiests work for them. Your mad at the wrong people, be mad at the venom that spews from your own mouths because that is what truly disgusts people with religion.

weed4cash said:

Dick Moser

It's easy to believe something if no one challenges your faith isn't it? That's why scientist get so pissed when some one challenges their knowledge. They are not used to being challenged. Most idiots just trust that, if he is a SCIENTIST, he must be right.

Christians are used to their faith being challenged. We get it all the time. I don't get pissed when some one challenges me. I take what they say and give them my opinion.

You must be insecure. Obviously because no one requires you to explain your shallow beliefe system.

But go ahead and fantasize beating my head in. Maybe this shit is just too deep for you.

P.S. your dick is showing.

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what is your opinion on clergy members molesting children? why do you refuse to even acknowledge it happens? this is the third time i've asked you directly and you have yet to address the issue.

That's why scientist get so pissed when some one challenges their knowledge.

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Once again, you are describing science as it exists in your mind, which is not how it exists in reality. In your head scientists are some guys in white jackets who think they are smart and when someone says they are wrong they jump up and down and curse god.

In reality, science thrives on challenge. A negative result means just as much as a positive one. Science admits it was wrong on almost a daily basis. Science has no choice but to follow evidence, and when new evidence is discovered science will readily admit it got something wrong, and then change it's conclusion to fit the new evidence. In contrast, religion never changes it's mind or considers new evidence.

It seems that you are more interested in who can be the biggest smart-ass and get the last word in. I have confidence you will win that contest. You respond only to the posts and points that you have a clever retort for. You don't seem interested in answering the question which started this thread. You embrace ignorance and then taunt others for not doing the same.

weed4cash said:

Wow, free thinkers. Yes I know all about free thinkers. They are the kids in schools today that freely think they can BLOW other kids away.

And then there are the gangs of free thinking people killing each other because they REPRESENT a different set of people that FREE think.

And then there are the free thinking women that are spreading AIDS accross America.

And what do you know. Religion taught us NOT to be those WONDERFUL people.

Thank goodness religion is dead.

Well, I guess you better not look in the phone book under church. There wouldn't possibly even be a secion for those.....

God is dead right?

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what a sexist.

want a piece of candy?

Your dead on Heisenberg, I think alot of religious people see science as another competing religion, and impose religious charecteristics onto it. In reality I don't see why the two must be mutually exclusive, you can have common sense and still be a spiritual person. Some people are so rigid its bound to fail, this 'you either believe what I do or youre a souless heathen' shit makes my blood boil.

weed4cash said:

Wow, free thinkers. Yes I know all about free thinkers. They are the kids in schools today that freely think they can BLOW other kids away.

And then there are the gangs of free thinking people killing each other because they REPRESENT a different set of people that FREE think.

And then there are the free thinking women that are spreading AIDS accross America.

And what do you know. Religion taught us NOT to be those WONDERFUL people.

Thank goodness religion is dead.

Well, I guess you better not look in the phone book under church. There wouldn't possibly even be a secion for those.....

God is dead right?

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you should be blaming you own damn religion on aids. Arent you people against birth control?

This whole argument is silly...

Evolution is a theory. Agree with it or dont agree with it, your life should not be changed.

Religion relies on faith. The good news is there is a book to explain it all.... sorta...

Evolution is evolving with pieces of evidence found all the time.

Religion is stagnant with the facts supposedly already recorded.

You cannot compare the two. And athiesm is not built on the theory of evolution so arguing about it by using evolution as supporting evidence is also pointless.

My original question was, how can athiest dog faith when they require it just like Christians do.

Everyone must have faith. Faith is just believing something that you cannot prove. Based on the facts I have learned, religous beliefs are far fetched, unlikely and in many instances downright impossible.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate people who believe in God many of my family members including my parents do. I personally choose not to believe stories that were written by people with little knowledge of how things actually work that has than been interpreted by someone else and than added to. Maybe there is a god but why is your religion right and every other religion wrong? How do you know what happened 2000 years ago? I have an open mind and would definately be interested in learning any evidence of god, no evidence has ever been brought to my attention that would suffice. If there really was a god, why wouldn't it continue to perform miracles for all to see which couldn't be explained away by modern science? Just gotta have faith right?

I actually disagree that thiss thread is dumb, in fact there has been a whole bunch of great posts just none from the original poster. And whenever someone addresses your ? you act like it never happened, why not post something relevant to the issue instead of more meaningless posts? Where's all the believers to come back you up, are you the only one? No, I think that even believers see you as naaive and don't want to be associated with your garbage.

Your last post reminds me of one of my favorite utube videos. Because without god there would be no reason to be a good person who doesn't rape and kill right? Oh and religious fanatics never kill others either right? Right.

palerider said:

Your dead on Heisenberg, I think alot of religious people see science as another competing religion, and impose religious charecteristics onto it. In reality I don't see why the two must be mutually exclusive, you can have common sense and still be a spiritual person. Some people are so rigid its bound to fail, this 'you either believe what I do or youre a souless heathen' shit makes my blood boil.

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I like what that guy said in that proof of creative design video. He said that he belives science is the search for god and I thought that was pretty cool. Just because you belive in god doesn't mean that you have to dismiss scientific evidence. There may very well be a god, if there is and religious storie are real, there will be scientific evidence to support it. I

weed4cash said:

Wow, free thinkers. Yes I know all about free thinkers. They are the kids in schools today that freely think they can BLOW other kids away.

And then there are the gangs of free thinking people killing each other because they REPRESENT a different set of people that FREE think.

And then there are the free thinking women that are spreading AIDS accross America.

And what do you know. Religion taught us NOT to be those WONDERFUL people.

Thank goodness religion is dead.

Well, I guess you better not look in the phone book under church. There wouldn't possibly even be a secion for those.....

God is dead right?

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Assuming he ever existed in the first place, god is dead.

Unless of course, you are the undead.

In that case, god is Dad.

Strangely enough, when term free thinker is used I picture statesmen like John Adams and Thomas Jefferson; writers like Henry David Thoreau and Mark Twain; and comedians like Lenny Bruce and George Carlin.

Your story has become tiresome.

The End.

Pipe Dream said:

Your last post reminds me of one of my favorite utube videos. Because without god there would be no reason to be a good person who doesn't rape and kill right? Oh and religious fanatics never kill others either right? Right.

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My roomie, who is atheist, still thinks religion helps keep people from committing crime, and without it we would have chaos. For some reason this is a belief he holds onto, despite his contempt for religion.

I explained that if that were true, we should see a higher rate of crime among those who don't believe in god. If fear of hell keeps you from raping someone, then once you don't believe in hell anymore you should have no fear. Of course when you look at the numbers atheists have about the same crime rate as any other group of people. There are tribes in undiscovered parts of the world that have never heard of the bible, yet they manage not to steal, kill or rape each other.

Religious people kill for god, steal for god, lie for god, rape for god. God often offers a justification for those who are already inclined to do evil things. The bible itself contains scenes of murder, rape, deceit, betrayal; it's actually a pretty violent book.

I like this quote "With or without religion we would still have good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things. But for a good person to do evil things..that requires religion."

weed4cash said:

Wow, free thinkers. Yes I know all about free thinkers. They are the kids in schools today that freely think they can BLOW other kids away.

And then there are the gangs of free thinking people killing each other because they REPRESENT a different set of people that FREE think.

And then there are the free thinking women that are spreading AIDS accross America.

And what do you know. Religion taught us NOT to be those WONDERFUL people.

Thank goodness religion is dead.

Well, I guess you better not look in the phone book under church. There wouldn't possibly even be a secion for those.....

God is dead right?

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Wow, it's rare to come across such an exquisitely perfect example of poisoning the well. Organically and in the wild no less. It's like seeing a rare bird.