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Manbush

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I have started 40 plants 3 sets of ten (dp orange bud, dinafem blue kush, and Dr. Kripplonh incredible bulk, and 10 freebies) all fem. I am using fresh fox farm ocean forest. I have oxidized water tht is always phd to 6.3. Lights are de my set to 1000 watt...mainly because of light distance. Currently plants r hitting two weeks and are looking fantastic. They are in smart pots as well.
I have introduced worms from Jim's worm farm and I am planting cover crop blend of seeds from build a soil on the top soil. I know about using sea sprout teas and using aloe water and coconut juice with water. I kno every couple of weeks you need to add compost teas. I also am unsure of how often to add compost teas nor how to build a proper compost for flowering and veg. What seed sprout teas do I use throughout veg how often? Flowering?should I also be doing more or adding more? Thanks for your time
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Well hello manbush (never thought those words i'd type out)
so i need more info in order to give any advice.
in specific how big are the pots you are using.
 
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Manbush

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We also have a assassin bugs to kill gnats but they were specially order so no harm to the plants from them...just trying to build a good ecosystem...we also have an o3 generator n 2 carbon filters for clean air and to stimulate the plants...also temp never drops below 74 degrees Fahrenheit nor does it go above 80 ppm co2 is around 600 in the space with no co2 enrichment
 
vostok

vostok

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mix in 30% perlite as FFOF is very hot soil

I doubt you will need any teas

pushing is pushing does
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Manbush said:
7 gal "phat sacks" from htg supply
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so they are two weeks old and in 7 gal smartpots?
or will be?
reason is if you start them in their final pot early like that, in my experience they run dry on certain macros early (namely nitrogen, cal, and phos)
early like that I like to start in a part cup and go to at least a half gallon a lil later, and then two weeks before flip, trans into the final pot.
but keep in mind I don't feed anything past my soil mix, but I don't ever have any defs either.
also inside I prefer plastic square container to smartpots, but that's just me.
I'd go with vostoks advice, as well as cutting that mix (after adding 30% aeration) with compost, a really good finished compost (one that is "finished")
Ideally it'd be optimal to age the final mixed soil for at least a week to fully inoculate the soil with the microbes from the compost
Doing that will keep you from needing any AACTs.
I personally wouldn't go with a cover crop on a container of that size, simply because cover crops grow FAST, and they will absolutely use up a good portion of your available nutrients.
Specifically nitrogen.

As always this is just my advice, and my preferences, we all know you can grow a million different ways
 
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Manbush

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Great advice ill be re reading it a few time n of course doing more research....my sources for the no till have been the YouTube videos of Minnesota mr. Nice breaking the bond of bottled nutrients and more so of brownguys no till. In both their videos they say tht the cover crop provides the nitrogen naturally n cutting down the cover crop n pushing the clippings down on top of the soil for worms to eat. However i they use compost teas every other week or something like tht N they had beatiful plants. They re use the same soil n don't till it up or get the old plant's roots out but they don't mention about starting with potting mix the first time either...but yeah I was think about only doing teas of they showed signs of defficencies... Seems like I should just let it all go...in terms of the plants n cover crops wish I would have posted this sooner so I knew to add more perlite. Yes the seedlings r in the 7 gal pots already because last transplant I did...plants were too big for the container when I transplanted...but they lagged out for 2 weeks before they started growing again. But thanks I have a good mister tht I will be able to keep the top soil moist n the bottom layers will stay moist for a little while but ill be sure to keep an eye on tht so I don't lose all my microbes thanks again guys
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Manbush said:
Great advice ill be re reading it a few time n of course doing more research....my sources for the no till have been the YouTube videos of Minnesota mr. Nice breaking the bond of bottled nutrients and more so of brownguys no till. In both their videos they say tht the cover crop provides the nitrogen naturally n cutting down the cover crop n pushing the clippings down on top of the soil for worms to eat. However i they use compost teas every other week or something like tht N they had beatiful plants. They re use the same soil n don't till it up or get the old plant's roots out but they don't mention about starting with potting mix the first time either...but yeah I was think about only doing teas of they showed signs of defficencies... Seems like I should just let it all go...in terms of the plants n cover crops wish I would have posted this sooner so I knew to add more perlite. Yes the seedlings r in the 7 gal pots already because last transplant I did...plants were too big for the container when I transplanted...but they lagged out for 2 weeks before they started growing again. But thanks I have a good mister tht I will be able to keep the top soil moist n the bottom layers will stay moist for a little while but ill be sure to keep an eye on tht so I don't lose all my microbes thanks again guys
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the issue with nitrogen fixing legumes is that the nodules is where the nitrogen is stored, and in order for the cannabis plant to get that the legumes must completely degrade back into the soil, the way that legumes are beneficial are moreso in establishing the soilweb.
a lot of those legumes take a good amount of nutrients to grow, not just nitrogen.
not to mention that nitrogen is the easiest macro to apply, as it doesn't need to be cycled by the microbes in order to be used.
I tinkered with covercrops for about three grows, and unless you are in a BIG ass container I found them to sorta be superfluous
and i'm totally convinced that they use up far more than the give back
but here's a cool pic of one anyways
this was post harvest, you can't even see the stump of the plant
the legume liked the amended compost and went nutso
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