ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

schuylaar said:

GG your link is decarb for bho..i believe matt uses oven temp to 212 for 90 minutes on his website:

http://medicalmarijuana.com/experts/expert/title.cfm?artID=44

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Okay I'm confused, I am super interested in turning a mediocre run of hash into a tincture. Do you decarb before going into the bubble bags? Or is there a way to decarb hash?

The last time I made hash, only read the first couple of pages and went against the microplane and pressed it (Lesson learned just keep reading. I prefer Knowledge challenged over noob, lol). Ended with decent hash but it turned really dark and smokes harsh.

Also, on a side note My brain just exploded because I finished the 217 page read. lol man what a ton of good information.

Got my micro plane and my new 45 micron bag just showed up. I'll be making some IWE with Herojuana that had to come down early. The buds are fluffly and smoke isn't really there. So I decided to try and save it making IWE.

My hope it to get In the ball park, even if it's in the nose bleeds, of what you folks already do. Considering this herb would trash I will be happy with anything. The bud has been trimmed into little nuggets and been in the freezer for a couple of days.

Came out Awesome. Thank you for this thread!!!!

[video=youtube;DelhLppPSxY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DelhLppPSxY[/video]

Has anyone dried preplaned hash in a cooler full of Dry Ice? I read somewhere that you can put fresh trim in a cooler of bagged dry ice to dry it, I would assume that the dry air with the cold temps would be amazing

Just a couple of pics of what I did. I'm proud of it. Prob not Rize status but it's the best I've ever done.

I also have a dry ice question if anyone has an answer. Can i use dry ice in my work back with the trim and no water and do a light shake and aggitation? Then use ice cold water to rinse it all through and collect? Any advise would be cool.

tj goodwin said:

I also have a dry ice question if anyone has an answer. Can i use dry ice in my work back with the trim and no water and do a light shake and aggitation? Then use ice cold water to rinse it all through and collect? Any advise would be cool.

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yes that is a well accepted and commonly practiced technique. we used to call it Dry Ice Sieving. be gentle! makes dank full melt if the material is right.

coopdogg369 said:

Has anyone dried preplaned hash in a cooler full of Dry Ice? I read somewhere that you can put fresh trim in a cooler of bagged dry ice to dry it, I would assume that the dry air with the cold temps would be amazing

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yes folks are doing that now too. give it a try and let us know!

Matt just want to say I think it's about time someone in the industry puts aside ego and shares his knowledge for the greater good. Your not talking about being the best your doing it and that's how it should be.

Anyway I've read it all and one of the things I have took away is constant cold cold cold. You mentioned your work and drying room temps. I unfourtnantly cannot afford to climate control another room right now. So in the mean time do you think I could use a mini fridge set to 50 degrees periodically opening when I change the paper towel to dry in??

BACG said:

Quick Question..

Is there anything wrong with immediately breaking up the plate of hash that you have just scooped out of the bags? Putting it on a 25 micron pressing screen with a bunch of paper towels under it, and breaking it up decently fine then? He says its all about drying it out quick... so would that be best to air it out? Im planning on putting it on a glass tray or non stick bake sheet after half day or so.

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I used to do that when I first started making hash and it works pretty good. Sometimes I would experience an over drying tho and end with a powdery consistency hash, especially when made with dry trim/material.

damiana said:

it depends on the plant genetics, sativa's tend to be more "dabbable" and indica more sand like. no matter how good the ice extraction.

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Says who?? Its quite the opposite actually I think.

Indica tricome heads are generally larger in size therefore sativa are the heads that fall threw lower micron screens resulting in a sandy consistensy. Heavy indicas result in the most melty of the melt from my growing and hash making experiences.

Drang2388 said:

Matt just want to say I think it's about time someone in the industry puts aside ego and shares his knowledge for the greater good. Your not talking about being the best your doing it and that's how it should be.

Anyway I've read it all and one of the things I have took away is constant cold cold cold. You mentioned your work and drying room temps. I unfourtnantly cannot afford to climate control another room right now. So in the mean time do you think I could use a mini fridge set to 50 degrees periodically opening when I change the paper towel to dry in??

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Most people don't share the techniques that they use to pay their bills. Its not unjust, people are allowed to protect their income.
But, you are welcome, I did this against the wishes of my peers, who used to be few, but are now numerous thanks in part to this thread. I call this the circle of hash.

Many people are drying in fridges, I do not approve of this technique. The humidity is too high. But it works good enough to smoke. You end up with more water in the hash, sometimes a sizzle when dabbed, but some people like that. If you smoke hash with a lot of residual water on a screen it looks amazing, this is a trend right now. We don't all have the same goals for our hash. A cool dry room works well, and its winter season.

Matt Rize said:

It's hard to say because I use wet trim. I would guess 1.5 lbs of trim gave me 40 grams of bubble.

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Hey hashmakers out there. I have been having terrible returns and I have no idea why. I have a 20gal bubble now machine with a 5 gal 8 bag bubblebag lite kit. I have done 3 runs so far. the first one was with a pound(of not so great shake) and that yielded about 5 grams of smokable bubble. The second run was with a pound of not bad trim and that return was about 2 grams of smokable hash. Then the third run was with 2 pounds of what I thought was dank trim(it consisted of plat. gsc, sour go,snowcap, and pit bull diesel). The run had a return of about 2 grams of smokable bubble. I have followed Matt's techniques exactly and the outside temperature has been around 40degrees also. I just really want to know what I am getting bad returns and what I can do better. Thanks everyone for reading!

youngfella said:

Hey hashmakers out there. I have been having terrible returns and I have no idea why. I have a 20gal bubble now machine with a 5 gal 8 bag bubblebag lite kit. I have done 3 runs so far. the first one was with a pound(of not so great shake) and that yielded about 5 grams of smokable bubble. The second run was with a pound of not bad trim and that return was about 2 grams of smokable hash. Then the third run was with 2 pounds of what I thought was dank trim(it consisted of plat. gsc, sour go,snowcap, and pit bull diesel). The run had a return of about 2 grams of smokable bubble. I have followed Matt's techniques exactly and the outside temperature has been around 40degrees also. I just really want to know what I am getting bad returns and what I can do better. Thanks everyone for reading!

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Your machine may be beating it up is one of the only things I can think of or your trim isn't up to par as far as the trics go on it. I just ran about 4 zips of trim and ended up with around 7 grams of fine full melt.

You could maybe try taking a sample of the water after its gone through the bags to see if theres trichome in there maybe your bags are no good

What about running buds... Im guessing its best to dry it out, but is it best to break it up or cut it with scissors? I fear its possible to break or fuck up the trichomes.

4betshove said:

What about running buds... Im guessing its best to dry it out, but is it best to break it up or cut it with scissors? I fear its possible to break or fuck up the trichomes.

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When I did buds I have tried Fresh frozen and dried frozen. I was much happier with the return on dried. However you do need to be more gentle. I hand stir and really don't even stir. More of a push down and move the water around. Chop with scissors and let them sit in your ice water for 30 mins prior to mixing.

This is what I have done. It is in no way the best way or right way. Works for me and I am happy with the results.

Dry in a desiccant chamber! No moisture in end product.

damiana said:

Dry in a desiccant chamber! No moisture in end product.

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Where do you get one? Is it like a dehumidifier?

What is the cheese grater thing use for? Like this one

4betshove said:

What is the cheese grater thing use for? Like this one

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It is for getting the hash putty down to fine consistency. Creating an equal and quick dry. I know it's a long thread but you should read it. As there is a ton of information in it.