ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

I don't recommend grinding because it breaks open trichome heads. I recommend using scizzors to carefully make larger buds into smaller budlets.

montanachadly said:

Is it Buds that he grinds up you know like the popcorn buds at the bottom and the larf or is it the sugar trim that gets grinded up when made into wax? I have heard people say that the hash made from buds like a whole plant grinded up and made into hash still isnt as good vs just the sugar trim. Is this true? My first few times i made bubble i used like 4 sativa plants that started throwing off nanners in week 7. I dried the plant grinded it up and bubbled the whole thing the 90 micron was really black and oily it was pretty good. But i wanna know is it possible to use a whole plant buds and all and make good full melt wax like matt does or just trim makes the bomb wax?

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you want to use trim, buds don't yield as well. You also don't want to be grinding your plant material before putting it in the bags, it will make your hash dirty, and the trichome heads will get beat up. I always use fresh frozen trim, and i believe that's what Matt prefers to work with, but i've seen him mix in dry trim as well. Don't quote me on any of this

Scott: wick the water out of the hash patty using paper towels under the drying screen. This takes time from a few minutes to hours depending. Then chill the patties, then grate onto parchment or teflon using a microplane (for parmesan and zest). That creates a VERY fine textured water hash that has some broken heads and some not broken heads. I dry hash in a cold dehumidified room, covered with silk screens just to keep the dust off. Drying takes 12 to 36 hours for this technique if your room and grating are dialed in.

Ice Wax technique is the better than solventless wax and bubble hash techniques simply due to this speedy drying stage. The faster you pull the water out the better preserved the resin color (trichomes are blonde to amber to red), and the cleaner the hash melts (not bubbles, which is mostly due to trapped water). The longer your hash sits out in the open the more flavor it looses and the more chance of contamination. Solventless wax is basically clumped up ice wax with a higher % of broken heads. Nikka uses a dull knife to chop at his pure extractions, after wicking out the water, smashing the majority of the heads. This makes pretty clumps that are very photogenic, but it takes a week or more to dry. Bubbleman just presses the hash wet and calls it good, therefore he has brown and black hash that he keeps for years before smoking.

I prefer fresh frozen trim for water hash, but any well grown material makes quality extract. Little buds make great hash too but there are financial issues with turning flowers into hash.

What did I miss?

not much man, I think I'm gonna pick up a microplane one of these days..

I figure if the card's edge is sharp enough it should shave off the hash without breaking too many trichome heads hopefully, I get pretty good results.


so matt, what do you think of quartz nails vs titanium nails?

Matt, how long are u running the 5 gallon machine? I started mine with 15 min's for the first run, I feel like it could go a bit more, whatcha think?

well my girlfriend's microplane just went missing

Thank you Mr Rize you answered a good bit of questions in that one post. Just another question with the smaller bubble magic machine that you got for subcools stuff your making for him. How long too run it and also what setting if there is a high or low setting? i dont know im picking one up tommarow. i would love to scrape your cheese grater mr rize. Cause im sure a bit gets stuck. Quick and too the point with the message nice. Now just too get my machine and i should have some some hopefully close to the Rize quality wax by next tuesday.

farmer2424 said:

well my girlfriend's microplane just went missing

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heh, better get a new one.

Subbie said:

Matt, how long are u running the 5 gallon machine? I started mine with 15 min's for the first run, I feel like it could go a bit more, whatcha think?

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less. just imo

montanachadly said:

Thank you Mr Rize you answered a good bit of questions in that one post. Just another question with the smaller bubble magic machine that you got for subcools stuff your making for him. How long too run it and also what setting if there is a high or low setting? i dont know im picking one up tommarow. i would love to scrape your cheese grater mr rize. Cause im sure a bit gets stuck. Quick and too the point with the message nice. Now just too get my machine and i should have some some hopefully close to the Rize quality wax by next tuesday.

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one setting
less than 15 imo

i do 6 minutes for first wash, then 10 for second, then if i do 3rd wash it is 15 just to get any leftover goodies.

so matt, I've probably asked this two or three times now but I must get an answer!

from your experience, which is more ideal for daily dabbin, quartz or titanium?



from what I've been able to tell about titanium, it seems that it transfers heat faster, heats up faster, and holds its heat longer than quartz, is this true from your experience?

if you haven't tried quartz nails (which I think is quite unlikely ) then I"ll just drop it haha.

i went through quartz nails like underwear before i got my ti.

just one tip: splurge on an adjustable one, preferably with a removable counter-weight.
although i'm very intrigued by the domeless one too.... (the one with a drawhole down the length of it)

mellokitty said:

i went through quartz nails like underwear before i got my ti.

just one tip: splurge on an adjustable one, preferably with a removable counter-weight.
although i'm very intrigued by the domeless one too.... (the one with a drawhole down the length of it)

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interesting, I bought a borosyndicate quartz nail 18mm and I"ve probably dabbed it over 100 times no breakage, it just takes a while to heat up ( might be my torch its not the best) and I feel like it doesn't transfer heat as fast, maybe I'm trippin.

yeah I suppose I"ll splurge on one of those highly educated TI nails, its just hard to do right now, I can trade cannabis for things easier than spending actual cash right now haha.

not breakage, warping.... average time: 2-3 weeks before the flat top of the nail started to morph into a blob..... could be i was just overheating them.... maybe your low-temp torch is saving you $$?

mellokitty said:

not breakage, warping.... average time: 2-3 weeks before the flat top of the nail started to morph into a blob..... could be i was just overheating them.... maybe your low-temp torch is saving you $$?

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maybe, idk I've had this nail for over 8 months, where did you get your quartz nails??

I heat up my quartz nail red hot every time I dab

tried a couple different brands of locals (BC has a very lively blower community).... there was one that was promising-looking (more solid construction than the others) but the damn thing wouldn't fit in my dome.

love my quartz dabber though.

mellokitty said:

tried a couple different brands of locals (BC has a very lively blower community).... there was one that was promising-looking (more solid construction than the others) but the damn thing wouldn't fit in my dome.

love my quartz dabber though.

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ahh I don't think aqualabtechnologies ships to BC...... you could find out though I'm sure...

something about borosyndicate screamed high quality to me, Ive heated this nail several times to the point of the entire nail lokoing red, so I'm pretty sure there might be variations in how good these quartz nails are made hmm....

Hello everyone. Rize up! Thank you kindly Matt for sharing your knowledge. I made bubble hash many years ago, but this was my first attempt at ice wax and with the washing machine. I used fresh frozen buds, a Koblenz machine with a large Zipcro pyramid bag, and a five bag set called Essential Bags from The Trim Shop in CO. I believe the bags were commissioned by Nikka T. They are extract artist approved. There was a problem with the brand new machine; a slipping belt. The pulleys were misaligned. The fix was simple. Other that that, everything went very smoothly and according to the tutorial. I put the pictured product and drying screen on dry paper towels in my drying rack in a cool, dark closet. The wet product was placed on the drying screen between 8:30 and 11 AM today. This is 2 runs each on 2 loads of "laundry." The bottom left is the 120 bag all four combined. The top row is the four 38 bag loads. The second row is the four 70 bags but the right two are combined. The third row besides the 120 on the left is the 25 micron bag loads with the first two combined.

Now, a question or two. How do I know when it it time to microplane it onto parchment paper? Should I freeze it a few hours before I microplane it? Does it go in the freezer now or after some time drying?

Thank you again! Peace!

nathan7 said:

Hello everyone. Rize up! Thank you kindly Matt for sharing your knowledge. I made bubble hash many years ago, but this was my first attempt at ice wax and with the washing machine. I used fresh frozen buds, a Koblenz machine with a large Zipcro pyramid bag, and a five bag set called Essential Bags from The Trim Shop in CO. I believe the bags were commissioned by Nikka T. They are extract artist approved. There was a problem with the brand new machine; a slipping belt. The pulleys were misaligned. The fix was simple. Other that that, everything went very smoothly and according to the tutorial. I put the pictured product and drying screen on dry paper towels in my drying rack in a cool, dark closet. The wet product was placed on the drying screen between 8:30 and 11 AM today. This is 2 runs each on 2 loads of "laundry." The bottom left is the 120 bag all four combined. The top row is the four 38 bag loads. The second row is the four 70 bags but the right two are combined. The third row besides the 120 on the left is the 25 micron bag loads with the first two combined.

Now, a question or two. How do I know when it it time to microplane it onto parchment paper? Should I freeze it a few hours before I microplane it? Does it go in the freezer now or after some time drying?

Thank you again! Peace!

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you just have to chill the patties, you know when they're ready to be chilled by if they seem really wet or just moist, if its moist then put it in the fridge for 10-20 mins to chill it down then microplane it.

poplars said:

you just have to chill the patties, you know when they're ready to be chilled by if they seem really wet or just moist, if its moist then put it in the fridge for 10-20 mins to chill it down then microplane it.

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Sweet! Here it is! Dried for 6.5 hours, chilled for 15ish, then micro-planed. The 70 bag was the stickiest of these two.

Almost forgot, this is mostly a CBD strain called Sour Tsunami, with perhaps some Jack Herer mixed in, all outdoor.

good job dude pot up after its totally dry then do a pocket cure and see how the color changes on the 70