ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

Mr. Rize, I am getting ready to use your methods of water extraction and have all the supplies ready, fresh frozen sugar trim? check, zipcro 220 work bag? check, fine micro planner? check, wax paper and baking sheets? check, controlled room? check. RO water and ice? check, my only 2 problems that I have are my bubble magic 20 gallon machine came in today, and it looks diff than all the others that i have seen, it has a little filter bag in the left side where normally is a plastic cover? whats up with it? should I leave it on? take it off? or try to find the norm one? the other problem is my 5 gallon 9 bag payload set is on back order so hafta wait on them, or should I shell out the big bucks for other brand bags? here are some pics, any help, thoughts or comments would be great thanks. I look forward to trying my hand at your art form that you have been so gracious to share with us all, thanks and happy hashing!

I once heard Matt Rize say the char is ice wax's saving grace.

I was hoping he could eloborate on the char. Is it just melted gland heads, mostly wax???

All i know is i hit it once and discard the char. gets to be a bitch having to clean a new screen every time. would love one of those Andy Roth full melt bowls Matt uses. $150 is steep for a single bowl though!

mmmmmmmmmmm

if you look up the composition of a trichome head, it makes perfect sense that there would be char left over:

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i developed broncitus again? Anybody ever get that after smoking Ice Wax??? i seem to get it a couople times a year.

My question about the char is still unanswered. I assume that the concentrated wax membranes possibly coated my lungs kinda like BHOtards who suffer from collapsed lungs.

I am guessing that the thickness of the wax membrane and/or the amount of oil in the gland head is dependent on strain and growing technique. I must have thick wax membranes because i seem to have a lot of char left.

Anybody care to drop some science????

i used to get bronchitis until my girl quit smoking butts. been good for 2 years and i smoke heavy bud, wax, and oil. you hang out with cig smokers?

actually, my woman does smoke cigs, but outside. No second hand for me.

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i developed broncitus again? Anybody ever get that after smoking Ice Wax??? i seem to get it a couople times a year.

My question about the char is still unanswered. I assume that the concentrated wax membranes possibly coated my lungs kinda like BHOtards who suffer from collapsed lungs.

I am guessing that the thickness of the wax membrane and/or the amount of oil in the gland head is dependent on strain and growing technique. I must have thick wax membranes because i seem to have a lot of char left.

Anybody care to drop some science????

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I think it's more likely how hard you're coughing, if you cough out your hit, how hot you smoke the hash, etc. and also who you're around germ wise, etc.

I use a hemp wick with a Ti screen and the Ice Wax rarely makes me cough. As far as germs, i dont believe that to be it. Happens way to often.

BTW, i have been smoking Ice hash for maybe a decade now. I used to top my bowls with it untill i learned better.

anyone have one of those vacuum ovens?

FOG99 said:

i developed broncitus again? Anybody ever get that after smoking Ice Wax??? i seem to get it a couople times a year.

My question about the char is still unanswered. I assume that the concentrated wax membranes possibly coated my lungs kinda like BHOtards who suffer from collapsed lungs.

I am guessing that the thickness of the wax membrane and/or the amount of oil in the gland head is dependent on strain and growing technique. I must have thick wax membranes because i seem to have a lot of char left.

Anybody care to drop some science????

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well this BHO"tard" has been smoking it since bushs first term and has no lung problems. exercise daily lets leave the oil out of this as its clearly not the cause of your health issues if u r getting bronchitis a few times a year it could b due to reasons far beyond cannabis. or maybe u have sensitive little lungs and should just vape flowers

biglungs- I feel like you are a little butt hurt by my use of the term BHOtard. Well, It is a known FACT that people are having collapsed lung issues from smoking BHO. I really could care less what you think. I was SIMPLY ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT ICE WAX. This is the ice wax forum right! I could give a FUCK less about some BHO.

anyone wanting to microplane without a microplanecan take the patty and freeze it for about hour and take a razor blade and cut it thin n dice it up real good. keep the razor in the freezer also. when you feel the patty not chopping so easy, leave it alone in the freezer again. i cut mine in the freezer til the razor gets warm. the icewax i have this round is real nice! made from ghost train haze1 using only 2 bags,220 micron and the 25 micron. the flowers are pure lemons but the wax is lemons with an earthy finish that wasnt there before.

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biglungs- I feel like you are a little butt hurt by my use of the term BHOtard. Well, It is a known FACT that people are having collapsed lung issues from smoking BHO. I really could care less what you think. I was SIMPLY ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT ICE WAX. This is the ice wax forum right! I could give a FUCK less about some BHO.

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pretty sure lung collapses are reserved to those of a particular body frame (tall skinny.) not to say that bad BHO isn't extremely bad on your lungs, it's just more likely to cause many other issues before a lung collapse unless you are of that particular body frame.

looking for a machine and found one on amazon and was wondering if anyone here has tried it or uses it with success heres the link with both the machine and a set of bags that come with it. (http://www.amazon.com/Bubble-Easy-Extraction-Machine-gallon/dp/B005EM8QYQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363074390&sr=8-1&keywords=bubble+bag+machine)

and here is a link of the bags i own already(http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00550EHX6/ref=ox_ya_os_product)

or what other types of machines are good for under or around 200.


or what if i just went wit any old small table top washer that has the same way to drain it and around same washing time with cycles and just buy a wash bag would that work or has anyone done it? im going to try just want some opinions.

or even a hand crank just look for bubbles and to not over agitate

FOG99 said:

biglungs- I feel like you are a little butt hurt by my use of the term BHOtard. Well, It is a known FACT that people are having collapsed lung issues from smoking BHO. I really could care less what you think. I was SIMPLY ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT ICE WAX. This is the ice wax forum right! I could give a FUCK less about some BHO.

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please link me to these facts i know magweedos lung collapsed but he smokes all kinds of BHO way more than is prbly necessary. also believe he smokes oils made by other ppl i smoke oils i make and purge myself. please link me to ONE site with scientific proof that BHO is that bad for ur health

Gonna dab some Kosher Kush/ Cheese Quake ice wax and feel great about it....ummmmm! The terps are super delish on this batch....fuely-blueberry-cheese!!

water and ice FTW!

winterizing your oil is a must in my opinion. i make fire oil with just hot water purging but i just dont like the thought of smoking concentrated wax literally. so my shopping list goes like this....reclaim system, 99% alcohol, vac oven. let me know if im forgetting anything!

please link me to ONE site with scientific proof that BHO is that bad for ur heal

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You know how to use Google, right? Just kidding, but I don't think you will find *scientific* proof at this point. I doubt any scientists are conducting real studies on BHO usage. However, the *anecdotal* evidence is enough to concern me personally.

I have a hunch that lung collapse may be related to breathing a lot of very hot vapor and not to BHO impurities, but I'm just guessing. I try to make sure I do not smoke my bubble too hot as it takes a toll on my throat.