ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
I've always used just sugar leaf if you have enough. Buds work great too!

Matt, question. How come I never catch anything in the 90 bag? 120 is loaded and the 73 is the same way, but next to nothing in the 90? Is the 90 a waste of a bag?
Not sure, could be whack bags. Could be genetics, or grow. I usually dont use a 90 bag.
 

oilmkr420

Active Member
Truely is, this stuff dabs, rolls in joints, spikes edibles, tops well on snappers, and is not limited to earls. Just displaying skill and letting you know who I am. CO2XTRACTR
 

Kalyx

Active Member
I'd bet a gram (of Ice wax of course) that co2 erl has nothing on ice wax in the taste department. IMO the taste is the big quality difference that ice wax has over ALL the other methods.

Anyone heard of a newer ice wax processing technique called 'soft serve'? Something about people rewetting their ice wax and stirring it to make it more dabbable. My answer to this same question when posed to me was..."Why not just make dabbable wax right off the bat with a Rize-up high quality extraction?" Anyway I hope someone in Cali or CO can explain this to me in more detail.

Danks, wax on! Veganic Island Sweet Skunk getting extracted hoy!
 

flowamasta

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I'd bet a gram (of Ice wax of course) that co2 erl has nothing on ice wax in the taste department. IMO the taste is the big quality difference that ice wax has over ALL the other methods.

Anyone heard of a newer ice wax processing technique called 'soft serve'? Something about people rewetting their ice wax and stirring it to make it more dabbable. My answer to this same question when posed to me was..."Why not just make dabbable wax right off the bat with a Rize-up high quality extraction?" Anyway I hope someone in Cali or CO can explain this to me in more detail.

Danks, wax on! Veganic Island Sweet Skunk getting extracted hoy!
Ofcourse a few will disagree with me, but my naptha extracted hash is full melt and stable at room temp and taste EXACTLY the same as my ice/water full melt. It burns the same, tastes the same, and it doesn't seem to break down as quickly as ice/water bubble....i noticed my ice/water bubble going fairly hard after a week or so, but it still melted and tasted beautiful. My naptha hash is still exactly the same and melts beautifully on a screen. My naptha extraction was a little different by half evaporating the naptha while still at cold temps letting the sugars/waxes build up along the edge and bottom, then separating then continuing to evaporate the naptha. i was left with doughy/crumbly mildly sticky hash after a complete purge and evaporation at the right temps. After heating this will liquify fully and be a full melt hash. This way i don't have to have fresh weed/sugar trim to make my full melt hash i can make it whenever i want. Try it for yourselves if in doubt. 100% naptha. Yes this is a chemical solvent extraction BUT it is a full melt Bubble hash. Very similar to the honeycomb BHO, almost identical in make-up. You also don't have to break the buds apart that much as the solvent extracts no matter what ;)

I hope not to step in any toes with this post, i can remove if found misleading to the title, but i think it fit the category and helps get a full melt hash without having to have fresh frozen trim available :)
 

oakley1984

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I'd bet a gram (of Ice wax of course) that co2 erl has nothing on ice wax in the taste department. IMO the taste is the big quality difference that ice wax has over ALL the other methods.

Anyone heard of a newer ice wax processing technique called 'soft serve'? Something about people rewetting their ice wax and stirring it to make it more dabbable. My answer to this same question when posed to me was..."Why not just make dabbable wax right off the bat with a Rize-up high quality extraction?" Anyway I hope someone in Cali or CO can explain this to me in more detail.

Danks, wax on! Veganic Island Sweet Skunk getting extracted hoy!
you guys are hilarious.

there is no way hash competes with a chemical extract for flavor

terpenes anyone?
 

oilmkr420

Active Member
but largely inexperienced w some of the finer things in life. I love ice water hash. It just never got the comments I hear from strangers on the streets when I get em high w wax or gels. A bit fresher as there isnt any plant matter in it. No inherit taste like butane. You guys dab ice hash? Gunky nail syndrom is what I get when dabbing that stuff.
 

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Kalyx

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Bubbleman has got the idea into many heads that his method is 'right' way to make IWE. His over-agitated, under-washed method will lead to crumbly, contaminated not dabbable product. Rize UP to the next level of IWE and you too can have solventless dabbable hash. Or you can blast and evaporate all the solvents under the sun. To each his own. I cannot argue that solvent extractions get more yield of dabbable product. I however have never ever heard of anyone complaining about the cost of RO water, not true of butane and its many mixtures!

I grow for quality. I won't go the solvent route for my meds. No matter how well purged I always get a strange tickling/raw sensation near the back of my throat, worse with bigger dabs. I have never met a dab of IWE that I would describe as too big because it makes my throat hurt (once the rawness even carried over to the next day, that is when I said no more bho for me). IWE dabs are only too big if any of the precious vapor is not inhaled by the user!

Some solvent extracts do taste very close to flower, some just taste like raw THC. I say no to BHO and solvent methods! As a pain patient its sometimes VERY hard to say no, but I hold out for the ice wax, Rize UP :hug: I wish I lived in Denver, CO or Cali so I would have access to other than homegrown and extracted IWE. BHO is more and more common even here, could be a trend, or maybe just the easy route to a dab. I am teaching as many IWE makers as I can about the new Rize UP tech and dabbable hash so that one day I can buy some here if I run out.
 
Hey finally took your advise. Made the bucket system after you put in the drain for me. Came out great and i'm fixing to run a pound of trim and popcorn nugs of the O.G.18 thru the washer and use the "Rize" method for seperation and final cleaning. I'll visit you when its done and you can sample it for yourself!
P.S.- this is my first thread or anything so I hope I got it right. Trellises also came out just like yours! Perfect.
 

keepitcoastal

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im sure this has been answered but i just got bags today, what do you guys scrape the hash from the bags with?? razor blade doesn't work very well and wants to catch and rip the bag. all help appreciated
 

Ndodson79605

Active Member
Ok, I've been up and down the 126 pages of this thread, and have seen most of your Youtube videos Matt, and I really hate to sound retarded, but what is that ceramic looking thing you place your bubble hash on? That thing that you're torching and then cover with what I'm assuming is a custom made glass cap? I know, this may be elementary, but I live in the middle of nowhere. We have no headshops, and I ain't boughten any new glassware in forever. I'm out of the scene, so to speak. I am thinking about getting a new bong with ash catcher, and wonder "where the hell does he get those cool looking things?" I have yet to make any bubble hash, but my cousin has about an ounce worth of scissor and finger hash he's been collecting. I wanna get me one of them things so I can dab or whatever it's called. Again, please forgive my idiocy. I've just never seen one of those bad boys. I don't know if I can take any more cleaning my vape wand every other sesh from all the buildup from the hash.
And by the way, +rep for starting this thread. I've only ever made ghetto ice hash using a big Mason jar and some coffee filters. Now, I'm saving up for a bag system. I have nowhere near the amount of shake for one of those machines, although they look pretty damn cool. Thanks again!
 

biglungs

Active Member
Ok, I've been up and down the 126 pages of this thread, and have seen most of your Youtube videos Matt, and I really hate to sound retarded, but what is that ceramic looking thing you place your bubble hash on? That thing that you're torching and then cover with what I'm assuming is a custom made glass cap? I know, this may be elementary, but I live in the middle of nowhere. We have no headshops, and I ain't boughten any new glassware in forever. I'm out of the scene, so to speak. I am thinking about getting a new bong with ash catcher, and wonder "where the hell does he get those cool looking things?"
vapor globe with a titanium nail get them off ebay or at aany arab/indian smoke shop in cali
 
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