I watered my seedling until run off and this happened

TCH

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Cpappa27 said:
You're growing in coco so things are a little different than my setup though with mine being in soil. Water when it needs it, if it still feels damp then leave it and also that way your promoting root growth to find water when it dries out a little.
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In this case, it's way different. Watering til runoff daily and bringing in fresh oxygen will encourage root growth.
 
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curious2garden said:
Soil has a microbial herd to buffer pH. Coco doesn't so he must pH, no microbial herd.
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Thanks for that, I never did coco so thats why I told him I wasnt sure. I think everyone should start out in a nice super soil for their first couple of grows because of how easy it is and how forgiving it is, instead of jumping straight into soiless or hydro where things need to be dialed in 100% or things go wrong fast. To each their own though

I may dabble into hydro at some point. Power goes out here more than Puerto Rico so Ill need a generator dedicated for the grow. I want to see what the hype is all about vs soil.
 
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Cpappa27 said:
Thanks for that, I never did coco so thats why I told him I wasnt sure. I think everyone should start out in a nice super soil for their first couple of grows because of how easy it is and how forgiving it is, instead of jumping straight into soiless or hydro where things need to be dialed in 100% or things go wrong fast. To each their own though

I may dabble into hydro at some point. Power goes out here more than Puerto Rico so Ill need a generator dedicated for the grow. I want to see what the hype is all about vs soil.
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I understand where you're at. For me I killed everything in soil. So when I got started I used homebuilt NFT tubes. Dialed it in that way because I did have numbers. That's kind of the great thing about cannabis is it is so flexible it seems to have a place where everyone can start. So vive le difference.
 
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curious2garden said:
I understand where you're at. For me I killed everything in soil. So when I got started I used homebuilt NFT tubes. Dialed it in that way because I did have numbers. That's kind of the great thing about cannabis is it is so flexible it seems to have a place where everyone can start. So vive le difference.
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Amen to that
 
MickFoster

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Cpappa27 said:
That happens to some of my seedlings sometimes too. Its nothing to stress over. Its growing healthy new leaves just fine. Plain water and light and its good. Start nutes again in about 10 days when its a little bigger.

Rule of thumb is dont start feeding until the cotydelons (those little round leaves all the way at the base) turn brown and wither away. The cotydelons are made to feed the plant until it develops roots.

This is a picture of mine that did the exact same thing at the same point in its life as your plant did and it bounced back just fine and is strong. Mine did it after I put it outside in the sun where it got sun all day.

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Stop giving advice..........you obviously have no idea how to grow in coco.
Coco basics:
Feed daily to run off once the roots are established........I start feeding around day 3.
Never, ever give plain water..........ever.
Never ever let the coco dry out........it should always be saturated.
Feeding to run off replenishes the nutes, pulls in fresh oxygen to the roots, and prevents salt build up.
 
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MickFoster said:
Stop giving advice..........you obviously have no idea how to grow in coco.
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I made it clear I dont grow in coco. He was worried about his leaves dying off and thats what I was answering. I gave general answers to keep it simple for a new grower.
 
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Not downing anyone who grows in coco but, maybe growing in coco isnt for you. I found coco to big big pain in the ass. Promix, Earthworm castings and Dr Earth or Gaia Green dry Amendments DONE, or even just Fox Farm Ocean forest. Add nothing initially. Amend once in flower done. I ph my water amend once or twice thats it. No need to check run off use 10 different bottles of snake oil, terp teas and Cal Mag madness. If I wanted another job id grow in coco
 
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Sensorium said:
Not downing anyone who grows in coco but, maybe growing in coco isnt for you. I found coco to big big pain in the ass. Promix, Earthworm castings and Dr Earth or Gaia Green dry Amendments DONE, or even just Fox Farm Ocean forest. Add nothing initially. Amend once in flower done. I ph my water amend once or twice thats it. No need to check run off use 10 different bottles of snake oil, terp teas and Cal Mag madness. If I wanted another job id grow in coco
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Coco is quite simple if one takes info from those that are experienced in growing coco. It does take a little time to mix some nutes, but it's fun and relaxing working with the plants. Usually. Lol.

Now, when a bunch of soil jockeys show up and throw out a bunch of random bs to a new guy trying to learn, yes, it sounds so difficult and it's annoying to see it happen again and again.
 
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TCH said:
Coco is quite simple if one takes info from those that are experienced in growing coco. It does take a little time to mix some nutes, but it's fun and relaxing working with the plants. Usually. Lol.

Now, when a bunch of soil jockeys show up and throw out a bunch of random bs to a new guy trying to learn, yes, it sounds so difficult and it's annoying to see it happen again and again.
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Ya I would never give advice on growing in Coco lol. I suck at it.
 
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Cpappa27 said:
I didnt give bad advice intentionally, I thought it was good advice at the time but also made it clear I dont grow in coco so I may be wrong. Curious2garden corrected me instantly.
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I'm sure it wasn't intentional.
I've always been of the opinion that if I have no experience on grow style, nutrients, etc.........I don't give advice.
You'll never catch me giving advice on a soil grow because I have never grown in soil.
 
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Boatguy said:
Looks like it is preloaded with nutrients. That would explain the burning
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The perfect mix of 70% coco coir and 30% perlite for optimum aeration, pre-blended with Ecothrive Charge for an unbeatable biological boost. Most coco coir mixes contain no nutrients with very low levels of beneficial biological activity. Now with Charge conveniently pre-blended into your coco mix your plants enjoy a balanced, organic source of primary nutrients along with a boost of beneficial bacteria, chitin and naturally occurring Trichoderma.

Ecothrive Lite Mix uses RHP certified, fully buffered coco that has been pre-blended with Ecothrive Charge at 1% by volume. This mixing ratio makes it ideal for almost all applications. However if you are potting up plants into their final pots you can add more Charge into the mix at the rate of 10ml per L to provide a nutritional kick and ultimately, a bigger boost.

Use Ecothrive Lite Mix and enjoy stronger, healthier, more vigorous plants that are harder to overwater when compared to growing with ‘uncharged’ standard coco.

Ideal for Autopot systems!

I'd get some distilled water and use that for a few days until the plant has a chance to use up a little of the shit they put in their coco, then start feeding at half strength, go up from there.
 
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TCH said:
Coco is quite simple if one takes info from those that are experienced in growing coco. It does take a little time to mix some nutes, but it's fun and relaxing working with the plants. Usually. Lol.

Now, when a bunch of soil jockeys show up and throw out a bunch of random bs to a new guy trying to learn, yes, it sounds so difficult and it's annoying to see it happen again and again.
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MickFoster said:
I'm sure it wasn't intentional.
I've always been of the opinion that if I have no experience on grow style, nutrients, etc.........I don't give advice.
You'll never catch me giving advice on a soil grow because I have never grown in soil.
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To be fair we all smoke a shit ton of pot. If they are soil jockeys, does that make us coco nuts? I know I've been dabbed enough to jump in to help and I took the plot completely sideways as I'm probably doing right this very minute :roll: :lol:

I'm still concerned about his .6 EC tap water lol I have some Cherry Gelato that may smooth that out.
 
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curious2garden said:
To be fair we all smoke a shit ton of pot. If they are soil jockeys, does that make us coco nuts? I know I've been dabbed enough to jump in to help and I took the plot completely sideways as I'm probably doing right this very minute :roll: :lol:

I'm still concerned about his .6 EC tap water lol I have some Cherry Gelato that may smooth that out.
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Did you just start a club? Coco Nuts, Unite!!!! Hahahaha. I didn't mean soil jockey as any sort of insult, it just sounded funny at the time. Also, I smoke almost exactly zero pot. I just enjoy growing it.
 
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Sensorium said:
Not downing anyone who grows in coco but, maybe growing in coco isnt for you. I found coco to big big pain in the ass. Promix, Earthworm castings and Dr Earth or Gaia Green dry Amendments DONE, or even just Fox Farm Ocean forest. Add nothing initially. Amend once in flower done. I ph my water amend once or twice thats it. No need to check run off use 10 different bottles of snake oil, terp teas and Cal Mag madness. If I wanted another job id grow in coco
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I am not going to lie, I grew in coco for a while and I agree, it is a pain. I switched to dirt and it is much easier. I tried automating, it barely makes a difference. I lost a crop before and the thought of losing a crop in dirt is not half as bad.
 
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Thanks guys I really appreciate it. I've just watered them with plain tap water until run off, they were fine until I added the canna start nutrients so I'm hoping they recover from it :-) I never knew this brand of coco already has nutrients mixed into the coco so that's probably where I messed up
 
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Definitely think peat based mixes are better, high humic acid content =tasty buds and less supplemental stuff to buy. Also if you’re in North America peat sourced from Canada is way more environmentally friendly than coco fibers shipped from mostly SE asia
 
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