I want to achieve an altered state where I leave my body

throwdo

throwdo

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Salvia did that for me I was floating over my body it was off I knew I was still alive though
 
Bigtacofarmer

Bigtacofarmer

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I am not interested in smoking salvia but I would love a live plant. From what I understand if you make tea or chew leaves the experience is way easier to interpret and way less like mental whiplash.
 
Bigtacofarmer

Bigtacofarmer

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WildCard008 said:
isnt that was dmt is for
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Several different ways of experiencing several different things. On salvia I have seen the wide open universe through my right eye while my left eye was still in my living room. And the choice to fall into space or stay with my family was as real as it gets. Another time I literally turned inside out into beatiful blue fractals. When I came too I was dangling off the sofa with my head on the floor still kinda inside out. Neither was an out of body experience. I had a buddy on the same batch of salvia say he watch his body down below and saw his concern family looking at his lifeless body in fear and scrammbled to get back into his body. Sounds as out of body as it gets.
On dmt I have never felt anything at all like disconnecting from myself. In fact it was way more like going deep inside myself. Not to say next time it will not take my body away from my mind. I just do not know.

Neither should be taken lightly and both have plenty to teach. I do think dmt is way more enjoyable. And Im sure I will visit both many more times.
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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TM is easy. Just concentrate on your breathing and try to let you mind go blank. Even a minute or two is beneficial especially during times of stress.
 
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