i used to think strain was important, now i dont.

I grow all my plants/strains with the same system .......they all follow the same time frame of veg (7-8 weeks) get transplanted in the same time frame (every 2 weeks) and they produce 4 oz or more per plant.

If I give you a clone off one of my plants .... your saying because of your use of chemical additives.... you can produce a plant with more thc than mine will have or the genectics will allow?? Theres is NO Way to do that......You can get more trich production but that does not mean more THC content

Relate your theory about additives to steroids.....Steroids will enhance the physical side of your body not your mental...just as chemical additves will enhance your plants physical side... not the THC

Well guys you jumped to conclusions maybe that typo " 8 gwp - 9 gpw on a 1000 watt" did anyone think it might to have been a mistake?

Noobthumb87 said:

hey "dipshit" thats strain dependent...

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I thought strain wasn't important? I thought your "steroids" could make any plant a high yielding, potent plant, just as good as any "elite" strain?

Noobthumb87 said:

hey "dipshit" thats strain dependent and also has a lot to do with the light. and i guarantee your 1.4g a watt crap has no where near the quality my meds have. You're full of shit regardless. Like those puppies on your default. stfu and stop commenting. Nothing you say can be proven so blow a load buttmaster.

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check out this thread dude gets over 2gpw with some nute I never heard of in a vertical https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/149998-heaths-flooded-tube-vertical.html

and check this dude out he only uses jacks classic fertilizer wich don't cost much more then miracle grow. https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/516068-free-seed-pre-harvest-pics.html

so lets see what you got I want to see this superiour quality you talk about AN having. I'm using lucas formula for flower and my plants are just as big and frosty as when I used technaflora's nute line up if anything lucas is kicking its ass and all it is is general hydro's micro and bloom. but you keep buying into that AN made for weed bull shit I still don't think your beating simonD with jacks classic if so don't be shy post the superiour plants your bragging about.

don't be shy post the superiour plants your bragging about.

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I think this is Big Mike at work ! Pay Backs for the " No more AN threads " lmao ...
What else would justify this idiot wasting so much time and only highlighting some AN bullshit ?

colonuggs said:

I grow all my plants/strains with the same system .......they all follow the same time frame of veg (7-8 weeks) get transplanted in the same time frame (every 2 weeks) and they produce 4 oz or more per plant.

If I give you a clone off one of my plants .... your saying because of your use of chemical additives.... you can produce a plant with more thc than mine will have or the genectics will allow?? Theres is NO Way to do that......You can get more trich production but that does not mean more THC content

Relate your theory about additives to steroids.....Steroids will enhance the physical side of your body not your mental...just as chemical additves will enhance your plants physical side... not the THC

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first off bud great plants no joke i wish i had those, second no their is a thc peak in cannabis and all i have said and have been saying is that i can take a good strain (critical mass) with good genetics/phenotype and with the proper regimen of nutrients/additives i can produce elite levels of thc(which is what my patients want) now for taste and "vigor" that is all strain related. I never said i was a pro grower as a matter of fact i always said"not even close".

hold on, what do you guys think im saying? please organize your thoughts put the bowl/joint/blunt/bong down and tell me what YOU think im saying?

gagekko said:

What a bunch of grade school internet bullies.... ganging up on this guy cause u all think he should see things the way you do - how pathetic

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No.

We're "ganging up" on this guy for talking crap.

He's saying things that not only defy common sense AND the collective experience of lots of growers (eg "strain doesn't matter"), but are also provably untrue (like his ridiculous THC "assay"; see below).

Sure he's entitled to his "opinion", but that doesn't make it correct, and if someone starts to make a fool of themself in a public forum, well. . .they should expect to be called out on it.

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Slight correction. THC and THCA are both miscible (soluble in any ratio) in alcohol and any common solvent except water.

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I think it has to be an organic solvent, but I stand corrected on this point.

I performed a gravimetric analysis of some bud once. The crude solvent extract figured to 89% THC, and the overall for the bud calculated to 11%. Without chromatography, an extract is a mystery as to exact composition. cn

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If you're looking at the EtOH -soluble extract, its going to contain THC, other cannabinoids, terpenes, water (if the bud is smokable, its probably not bone dry) and who knows what else.

Point is, you can't assay THC content just my measuring the weight of a simple alcohol extract. At *best* that's a very rough first estimate, but considering how many OTHER compounds within a cannabis plant are probably THC-soluble, you can't even assume that bud "A" that tests this way higher than bud "B" even contains more THC. . .it may not.

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all i have said and have been saying is that i can take a good strain (critical mass) with good genetics/phenotype and with the proper regimen of nutrients/additives i can produce elite levels of thc(which is what my patients want) now for taste and "vigor" that is all strain related. I never said i was a pro grower as a matter of fact i always said"not even close".

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Actually, you've said quite a number of things, at least many of which are provably untrue.

I have no doubt that many smokers would be satisfied with a well grown "critical mass".

Can you take that plant, and with your nute regimen raise its cannabinoid content to, say, the level of a top level OG strain?

No, despite your blabbering, you cannot.

Furthermore, as you are the one making the "outrageous" claim, the burden of proof rests on YOU to prove that what you are saying is true. Nobody else needs to disprove it.

So come back here AFTER you've had your strains tested by a REPUTABLE THIRD PARTY lab (eg steep hills labs).

After you've done that, you can brag about your regimen. Until then, you're a noob talking trash.

Jogro said:

Actually, you've said quite a number of things, at least many of which are provably untrue.

I have no doubt that many smokers would be satisfied with a well grown "critical mass".

Can you take that plant, and with your nute regimen raise its cannabinoid content to, say, the level of a top level OG strain?

No, despite your blabbering, you cannot.

Furthermore, as you are the one making the "outrageous" claim, the burden of proof rests on YOU to prove that what you are saying is true. Nobody else needs to disprove it.

So come back here AFTER you've had your strains tested by a REPUTABLE THIRD PARTY lab (eg steep hills labs).

After you've done that, you can brag about your regimen. Until then, you're a noob talking trash.

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please what number of things have i said besides i can take a good plant strain with good genetics and make its thc content as high as an elite plant strain?

Noobthumb87 said:

hold on, what do you guys think im saying? please organize your thoughts put the bowl/joint/blunt/bong down and tell me what YOU think im saying?

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Hush that discombobulated ADHD infested brain of yours
please snort some ritalin!

would you factor your own stupidity down to lack of nutrients, or perhaps your mother endured stress during pregnancy lol
maybe it's poor genetics, poor environment, or a combination of all these things
i do wonder

skunkd0c said:

Hush that discombobulated ADHD infested brain of yours
please snort some ritalin!

would you factor your own stupidity down to lack of nutrients, or perhaps your mother endured stress during pregnancy lol
maybe it's poor genetics, poor environment, or a combination of all these things
i do wonder

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you mad bro?

Noobthumb87 said:

you mad bro?

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lol, no son i am not mad with you, it is not your fault, you are special
you are mad with yourself because you never get things right

skunkd0c said:

lol, no son i am not mad with you, it is not your fault, you are special
you are mad with yourself because you never get things right

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nope, but id say you were with the lengthy insult.

i do not see any insults, only the truth
here are some insults for you, although these are also truthful
you are dumb, you are a troll, you lack basic common sense

if you want to suggest i am mad at something feel free
why would a random stranger who is obviously stupid make anyone mad, if anything i am sure we collectively pity you

are you mad bro ?? the fact you have very little to say now, has the cat got your tongue ?

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please what number of things have i said besides i can take a good plant strain with good genetics and make its thc content as high as an elite plant strain?

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If you can't remember what you've already posted feel free to scroll backwards and take another look. I'm not wasting my time reposting your bulls#$t.

In the meantime, lab report, or you're full of crap.

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please what number of things have i said besides i can take a good plant strain with good genetics and make its thc content as high as an elite plant strain?

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Based on that logic, you could make an elite strain with off-the-charts THC content, if you had one. Logically, anything that an organism produces is limited in it's quantities. You can only make so much THC over 8 weeks. The limiting factors being the plant's peak THC potential, and resources to reach that potential. The plant has to make THC, therefore the plant can only make as much as it is equipped to. So could you explain to me how this works? You seem to mention steroids alot, but nothing of the actual chemicals used, or how they actually increase a plant's base THC manufacturing abilities with no downside.

The op is obviously a troll. At least I hope he's a troll, for his sake..