BJ, I think you are trying to help em too much. Treat em like tomato. I always get at least 2 zips, I have gotten 8 several time. My best runs were from Pinky stock as far as weight. I am running some coco/perlite and some Organics Choice (Lowe's) in my 3 gal home made air buckets (Wal-Mart bags and a bunch of 3" holes drilled in the bucket) using the Mephisto Super Soil mix. I will only feed water, AgroZyme Root Enhanced ( great shit by btw) and a little Cal-Mag when I thing they need it. I' wanna see what I can do with the Super Spoil in both mediums. Using all Mephisto strains, Grape Crinkle, Super Stomper, Skywalker and Auto Blues. I'm, gunna have a white Christmas...