I Finally Understand SuperSoil !!!

whitebb2727 · Jan 27, 2016

MustangStudFarm said:
I think that the real problem was my soil! I must have some sort of toxicity going on, because I am having all kinds of problems. My recycled soil is messing up my veg'ing plants. I bet that the stuff will burn my grass when I put it on the lawn!!!
I will still have 5gal/15gal mixed. I was chasing a problem, and I think that the compost is going to fix that! I thought that my fade was coming from being root bound.

Don't put it on the lawn. It would go good in a compost pile.

MustangStudFarm · Jan 27, 2016

Wetdog said:
I just gotta call BS on the too much dolo, unless you're like 3cups+/cf of mix. It's fucking ground up rock for christsakes!

An ACCT every 2 weeks!? I think it's been about three years since I've used any sort of tea. Between the comfrey and my own VC there just hasn't been any need.

I'm really not trying to rude you out, but when benign stuff like dolo gets blamed and much more 'potent' stuff is not even being considered ..... Stuff like alfalfa, kelp, and neem are great ... in small, spread out doses. VOE here. Even with 40+ years of growing 'stuff', I did the "if a little is good, more would be great', fuck up. At least all those years of experience clued me in right quick to what I did.

The two biggest things you can do is start a worm bin (but I think you have, yes?), and start a comfrey patch next spring. GMM spreads his around, I mainly feed it to my worms due to laziness, but the VC is amazing! However you use it, it's amazing stuff. Bocking 14 cultivar. Got mine from Horizon Herbs, 6 crown cuttings are plenty.

I also do leaf compost, but they are part of my raised beds and only in the second year, so nothing really harvested, yet.

Anyway, relax, quit overthinking it and enjoy the garden.

Wet

I am still a newb compared to some people, I am not going to lie lol.

whitebb2727 said:
Don't put it on the lawn. It would go good in a compost pile.

I am sure that I was over-reacting.

Kaptain Kronic · Jan 27, 2016

PapaT said:
I'm on my first small indoor grow from mexican bag seed. I have a good soil mix (Premium Top Soil, Perlite, Lime, Bone and Blood Meal, and worm castings. Plants are doing well (healthy) and are 4 weeks old. My question is do I need to add nutes to the plants in this soil mix? I read that this soil mix is all the plant will ever need. I don't have time for a second grow and I'm trying really hard not to screw this up. Thanks in advance.

i think that you might have to add nutrients, amended soils are great but with you not having time, you should probably invest in some dynagro or something similar, just incase. the ganja will suck the nutrients out of your soil mix faster than you would imagine. most premixed potting soils don't have enough to get you through flower, without problems. so just add a little dynagro, like 50 % what it calls for on the bottle at max, when it looks like the plants are needing nutrients. if nitrogen is needed the leaves will turn yellow starting at the bottom. and most likely, your gonna need your bloom nutes also. however, being this forum area, we would encourage you to atleast look into organic bottled nutrients, or learn about making high nutrient compost teas (i have some ideas about compost teas if needed) . Hope this helps.

Kaptain Kronic · Jan 27, 2016

greasemonkeymann said:
the feather meal is super slow release probably nothing available until at least a good 6 months or more., and is also loaded with arsenic, for blood meal the best replacement is probably alfalfa meal, with crab meal as the slower release nitrogen input" behind" it. Also I have neem and insect meal in my mixes as well as fish meal, so my nitrogen comes from different areas, and in different cycling rates.. You want slow, med, and fast releases of it to support your plants growth, cannabis takes a BUNCH of nitrogen
And fishbone meal is a GOOD replacement for bovine bonemeal.
Feather meal is awesome, but with the arsenic I don't use it, apparently they use it to strip the feathers off.

Thanks for the info, hey, tell me also, what do you think of this :

http://www.lundproduce.com/N-P-K-Value-of-Everything.html

it has given me some ideas about amendments, but i would like to know what you guys think about the list. How accurate do yall think it is? do you think this list would be of much help?

greasemonkeymann · Jan 28, 2016

Kaptain Kronic said:
Thanks for the info, hey, tell me also, what do you think of this :

http://www.lundproduce.com/N-P-K-Value-of-Everything.html

it has given me some ideas about amendments, but i would like to know what you guys think about the list. How accurate do yall think it is? do you think this list would be of much help?

yea, I've seen that list before, it's cool stuff.
I just prefer to make it all in a compost, and let it cycle as the leaves breakdown.
MUCH better results with that, than to amend the soil directly, in my experience anyways.
Doesn't mean that's the only way, just the way that works best for me.
But that list is a perfect example of why a compost works so well, even a bare one, because organic material breaks down into nutrients and humus, both of which are crucial, but that's sorta how mother nature has evolved it, otherwise the trees would need somebody to plop some nutrients on them every year, when in fact that's sorta what happens with the trees shedding of its leaves annually, as well as fruit trees, and so on.
What boggles my mind are the redwoods... those things are friggin huge, and they don't shed much more than a lil needles...
where do they get the energy for all that growth?

Kaptain Kronic · Jan 28, 2016

greasemonkeymann said:
yea, I've seen that list before, it's cool stuff.
I just prefer to make it all in a compost, and let it cycle as the leaves breakdown.
MUCH better results with that, than to amend the soil directly, in my experience anyways.
Doesn't mean that's the only way, just the way that works best for me.
But that list is a perfect example of why a compost works so well, even a bare one, because organic material breaks down into nutrients and humus, both of which are crucial, but that's sorta how mother nature has evolved it, otherwise the trees would need somebody to plop some nutrients on them every year, when in fact that's sorta what happens with the trees shedding of its leaves annually, as well as fruit trees, and so on.
What boggles my mind are the redwoods... those things are friggin huge, and they don't shed much more than a lil needles...
where do they get the energy for all that growth?

the redwood question is a good one. i don't really have a clue, unless the soil is just that fertile and alive with other stuff ... i guess that's something to think about ...

PapaT · Jan 29, 2016

Kaptain Kronic said:
i think that you might have to add nutrients, amended soils are great but with you not having time, you should probably invest in some dynagro or something similar, just incase. the ganja will suck the nutrients out of your soil mix faster than you would imagine. most premixed potting soils don't have enough to get you through flower, without problems. so just add a little dynagro, like 50 % what it calls for on the bottle at max, when it looks like the plants are needing nutrients. if nitrogen is needed the leaves will turn yellow starting at the bottom. and most likely, your gonna need your bloom nutes also. however, being this forum area, we would encourage you to atleast look into organic bottled nutrients, or learn about making high nutrient compost teas (i have some ideas about compost teas if needed) . Hope this helps.

Thanks Kaptain!

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