I believe I can prove the existence of GOD, and what GOD is... to a logical mind

"God" cannot be defined by one person. The only time "God" is present is collectively. To use the pizza analogy above, collectively, we love pizza, therefore pizza is presented as an option. "God" is a mere expression to maintain an organized form of speech for a collective understanding. I myself believe that "God" is Mother Nature and Father Time, at this point this is only an opinion. As soon as somebody else agrees with me, it becomes reality through collectivism. Both "parents" have been around from the get go. Working unanimously in order to perfect that, that is all. I'm sure you would agree, if you are logically correct. With science and faith both, this can be proved. Being that Mother Nature and Father Time have been the only constant variables since it all started or popped or banged or expanded into existence.
 
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tightpockt said:
talking in riddles doesn't make you interesting, insightful or profound.
you just sound like a babbling idiot.
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tightpockt said:
talking in riddles doesn't make you interesting, insightful or profound.
you just sound like a babbling idiot.
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like I said "GOD" for lack of a better word is ..emotion,,, emotion is the outward expression of the inner man...
1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love... love is an emotion
 
thepenofareadywriter said:
like I said "GOD" for lack of a better word is ..emotion,,, emotion is the outward expression of the inner man...
1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love... love is an emotion
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Actually I disagree with love being an emotion because love is a collection of emotions. Love can feel hate, desire, lust, obsession, anger, etc. That means that love can be a number of emotions at any given moment. In conclusion, LOVE is something else, something totally distinct from human perception. To me, love is acceptance. When you truly love yourself you have accepted yourself for who you are (with all emotions included). Meaning you have hated yourself, envied yourself, boasted yourself, obsessed about yourself, etc.
 
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Mello136 said:
Actually I disagree with love being an emotion because love is a collection of emotions. Love can feel hate, desire, lust, obsession, anger, etc. That means that love can be a number of emotions at any given moment. In conclusion, LOVE is something else, something totally distinct from human perception. To me, love is acceptance. When you truly love yourself you have accepted yourself for who you are (with all emotions included). Meaning you have hated yourself, envied yourself, boasted yourself, obsessed about yourself, etc.
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ok look at it this way... love is an inner feeling of emotion with an outward expression of acceptance
 
Mello136 said:
All you did was paraphrase what I said...? I thought this was a convo for the logical mind.
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no you said.... "Outside expressions are simply our own reflection of what we believe reality is" I said outward expressions are reflection of the inner man, although some may try to mask those inner feelings...the outward expressions are not what we believe reality is...it is the reflection of the inner man ...although some mask the inner man with false outward expression to put forth a false reality
 
thepenofareadywriter said:
no you said.... "Outside expressions are simply our own reflection of what we believe reality is" I said outward expressions are reflection of the inner man, although some may try to mask those inner feelings...the outward expressions are not what we believe reality is...it is the reflection of the inner man ...although some mask the inner man with false outward expression to put forth a false reality
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It is the same thing I said in other words bro. With the addition of a mask.
 
I still dont see any proof for God.

I really wish that someone could actually prove God, because I would love to believe in God. Thats why I am an Agnostic Theist.

No one can prove God and no one can totally debunk God either. I believe there was a creation (of the universe), and therefore I believe there was a Creator. I dont believe something can come from nothing.

But the Atheists will say, "Who created God? And who created the God that created God? Etc. etc..'

I believe God is the uncreated Creator. He was in the beginning, before any universe- a guiding Force. There is no forming universes out of nothing, unless God is involved.

But where is God right now? Where did God go? Who is God? What does God look like and what does God do on a daily basis? How can God create a universe? Does God perform miracles today? If God can create one universe from nothing,can God create a multiverse?

We are all gods, made in His image and likeness. We have a lot of power to change things, i.e., the internet is a great tool to persuade people to the Truth. We can be godly people, and do godly things. We are NOT God, but we are His little gods or children of God.

No one can prove or disprove the Creator of the universe, with empirical evidence. You need a little bit of faith, to believe in the Creator.

~PEACE~
 
Nevaeh420 said:
I still dont see any proof for God.

I really wish that someone could actually prove God, because I would love to believe in God. Thats why I am an Agnostic Theist.

No one can prove God and no one can totally debunk God either. I believe there was a creation (of the universe), and therefore I believe there was a Creator. I dont believe something can come from nothing.

But the Atheists will say, "Who created God? And who created the God that created God? Etc. etc..'

I believe God is the uncreated Creator. He was in the beginning, before any universe- a guiding Force. There is no forming universes out of nothing, unless God is involved.

But where is God right now? Where did God go? Who is God? What does God look like and what does God do on a daily basis? How can God create a universe? Does God perform miracles today? If God can create one universe from nothing,can God create a multiverse?

We are all gods, made in His image and likeness. We have a lot of power to change things, i.e., the internet is a great tool to persuade people to the Truth. We can be godly people, and do godly things. We are NOT God, but we are His little gods or children of God.

No one can prove or disprove the Creator of the universe, with empirical evidence. You need a little bit of faith, to believe in the Creator.

~PEACE~
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Very well put.

I might have to disagree as well. Nature and Time working unanimously is in essence what God is. Without one or the other you have nothing. Nature is imobilized without time and time is everlasting. You see time will never stop causing nature to move synchronously. Nature... is everything and everywhere. Together you have "GOD" (as mentioned before it's basically a euphemism). No matter what we think "God is or is not" nature and time will ALWAYS take it's course, with or without humanity. We make it "God" as a way to communicate to each other in a way that both parties will understand. But we still don't know who God is you might say. Using the bible as the best reference to what god is would be the omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. That is precisely what nature and time is.
 
Nevaeh420 said:
I still dont see any proof for God.

I really wish that someone could actually prove God, because I would love to believe in God. Thats why I am an Agnostic Theist.

No one can prove God and no one can totally debunk God either. I believe there was a creation (of the universe), and therefore I believe there was a Creator. I dont believe something can come from nothing.
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But the Atheists will say, "Who created God? And who created the God that created God? Etc. etc..'

I believe God is the uncreated Creator. He was in the beginning, before any universe- a guiding Force. There is no forming universes out of nothing, unless God is involved.

But where is God right now? Where did God go? Who is God? What does God look like and what does God do on a daily basis? How can God create a universe? Does God perform miracles today? If God can create one universe from nothing,can God create a multiverse?

We are all gods, made in His image and likeness. We have a lot of power to change things, i.e., the internet is a great tool to persuade people to the Truth. We can be godly people, and do godly things. We are NOT God, but we are His little gods or children of God.

No one can prove or disprove the Creator of the universe, with empirical evidence. You need a little bit of faith, to believe in the Creator.

~PEACE~
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you have to remember we are talking about the god of the bible... I am not talking about this so called god that created the universe there is none like that... the god that I am talking about is... emotion, all the people that wrote the bible wrote down words according their emotions...love, hate, jealousy, greed, guilt, etc. you can see it when religious people try to convert you...when they are full of guilt because of things that they have done in their life they preach against those , things but in reality... they are really trying to convince their own self ... in other words their outward expression is condemnation of their inward feelings of self.in conclusion of the matter...THERE IS NO GOD ! ONLY THE EMOTION of men written down in religious books, words written down by men inspired to write down their feelings. according to their emotions.[ready writers]
 
thepenofareadywriter said:
you have to remember we are talking about the god of the bible... I am not talking about this so called god that created the universe there is none like that... the god that I am talking about is... emotion, all the people that wrote the bible wrote down words according their emotions...love, hate, jealousy, greed, guilt, etc. you can see it when religious people try to convert you...when they are full of guilt because of things that they have done in their life they preach against those , things but in reality... they are really trying to convince their own self ... in other words their outward expression is condemnation of their inward feelings of self.in conclusion of the matter...THERE IS NO GOD ! ONLY THE EMOTION of men written down in religious books, words written down by men inspired to write down their feelings. according to their emotions.[ready writers]
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In attempting to prove god, it only took you two pages to come to the conclusion that there is no god. Good stuff...
 
Padawanbater2 said:
You're not talking about "God", you're talking about emotion and attempting to assign the word "God" to it

I can call a dog an iguana all I want, it doesn't change the fact that he's got hair and warm blood
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no religion has assigned god to it...if the dog has hair and warm blood, what does your god have?
 
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