Hyroot's Magical Light Show w/ Natural Recycled Veganic Living Soil

We got some magic happening here.

2 Inda Gro 420 / led pontoon combos. 1 Inda Gro Vpar 420 / led pontoon combo

Area 51 sgs 160 led - to be used soon.

Cheese og
Jelly Donut ( formerly cbk )
NL x Og #2
Nl x Og #3 (last run)


Nutes, top dress at beginning of flower

Down To Earth Vegan Mix
Neem Meal /Cake
Kelp Meal
Worm Castings

foliar sprays with kelp /aloe

Water with seed sprout tea's and the occasional compost tea's

Kelp / Alfalfa tea's while in veg and early flower

Right now everything is in veg mode 18/6. In 7-10 days they will flip to 14/10 then gradually drop to 12/12 over the first 2 weeks of flower. The last week possibly drop to 11.5/12.5

Also trying mounding this time around too. I like it for the shallow pots.

Looks great!!

What do you mean by this "water seeds sprout tea's and occasional compost tea's"

Like water seedlings with sprout teas? That's what I got out of it. If so would yiu care to shares the recipe

ThurgoodJenkinsSoulbro. said:

Like water seedlings with sprout teas? That's what I got out of it. If so would yiu care to shares the recipe

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watering plants with seed sprout enzyme teas.

I sprout mung beans or barley seeds. Then puree and add to water. When they sprout enzymes are activated and the endosperm releases all kinds of enzymes and minerals.

Sprouted Seed Tea v2.0

Jon Stika of Brew Your Own Magazine describes malt as "barley that has been sprouted to the point where enzymes are produced that will convert its starchy interior to sugar." After the grain has been malted, the sugar is fermented by yeast to make beer.

This is an accurate overview of an article he wrote for those who want to make their own malt and here's the Reader's Digest version:

Weigh out 2 oz. of Barley seed and remove any foreign matter by the seeds into a large jar and fill it half-way with water and agitate to wash the barley. Pour off loose husks & dirt that float to the top. Drain in a colander. Repeat until everything has been removed.

Soak the seeds in water for 8 - 10 hours. Drain the seeds and weigh after completely draining the water off. Assuming you started with 56 grams, you want to hit a minimum of 84 grams at the end of these processes.

Let the Barley rest for 8 - 10 hours and then soak for another 8 hours, drain and weigh. Repeat if necessary but that's not too unlikely.

Take a piece of cloth and you want to use something as 'raw' as possible like hemp cloth, organic cotton, linen, canvas, flax, etc. - just check with a large fabric store. If you buy a piece that is a square it probably helps or doesn't.

Wet your cloth, wring out and fold it 2 times. During the rest cycles this is where you want to let the seeds rest. You want moisture surrounding the seeds but not water.

Once you hit 84+ grams, spread your seeds again in the middle of this folded piece of fabric, place that in a brown paper bag - 55F - 65F ambient temperatures will move this along quickly.

When the shoots inside the seed have grown the length of the seed you're done. You're not growing sprouts but rather activating the enzymes and the compounds in the endosperm .

Take these seeds and put them in a blender and some water and get it to a puree to the extent possible. Using 56 grams to start will give enough puree to make 5 gallons of tea.

Water your plants with this diluted tea. This will give you far, far more enzymes than the straight sprouting method. One thing about beer brewers is that they live & die by enzyme levels extracted from seeds and this article is cited on several home brew forums.

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Cann said:

The barley seed tea is all about enzymes. the same reason I use young coconut h2o. when a seed germinates, the contents of the seed (endosperm) provide everything the young plant needs for life. we are effectively harvesting the goodies that the endosperm creates and applying it to our plants. enzymes are catalysts that increase the speed of reactions by insane amounts (sometimes up to 1000000x faster than the reaction with no enzyme) - basically they help facilitate a bunch of interactions that are going on with your plant, therefore increasing overall health/speed of growth. you've probably seen pictures around here of "praying" leaves...or the so called "jesus effect" (lol) - I get that reaction the most when I apply a barley seed tea.

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"Here's why you wouldn't want to soak any seed (only) and try to use the soaking water: many seeds are encoded with enzymes on the hull's exterior and the immediate interior. These enzymes prevent germination unless the conditions are right, i.e. they're growth inhibitors. Not Plant Growth Regulators but out and out inhibitors.

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Cann said:

Once a seed germinates, the developing endosperm creates other enzymes that neutralize the inhibitors, converting them into a food source for the emerging tap-root."



a.k.a. you want to discard the soak water and rinse thoroughly before you germinate and refill the vessel with h2o..or else you will be doing the opposite of what we want.

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The lazy mans option for enzymes is to use young coconut h2o. it is much more expensive than barley (both are still way cheaper than bottled nutes!) but contains many similar goodies.

Here is another past quote from ClackamasCootz, RE: young coconut water

"The big ones are Cytokinins, Gibberellins (GAs), Enzymes (in particular amylase, arylsulphatase, β-glucosidase, cellulase, chitinase, dehydrogenase, phosphatase, protease, and urease), Indole-3-Acetic Acid (IAA)......

Young coconuts are embryos and the water will begin to adhere to the inside of the shell and solidifies forming coconut meat or whatever it's called.You can expect to get around 12 oz. in a fresh one shown in the original post. Ripe coconuts will contain very little water and much lower benefits because they're now contained in this seed's endosperm (coconut meat).

Coconuts are one of the richest sources of Cytokinins which accelerates cell division in the plant which differs from how PGRs function.

HTH

CC"

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sub'd! beautiful work as always!

I love it hyroot. Teach me.

Ur starting over agian? Whats thos vegan non sense u speak of ??? Jk

Dr.J20 said:

sub'd! beautiful work as always!

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Thanks for watching and the complements

GandalfdaGreen said:

I love it hyroot. Teach me.

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Stay tuned

foreverflyhi said:

Ur starting over agian? Whats thos vegan non sense u speak of ??? Jk

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New round. last batch still drying.. If you have ever smoked vegan weed. It is soooo smooth. Doesn't make you cough. I have seen a few grows with the vegan mix. Locally and on here. I'm impressed. thought I'd try it with an rols / cootz twist on the recipe. Plus I'm kinda tapped, bills, new inline fans, filters, the cup, seeds, etc.. It's much cheaper than buying crab meal, soft rock phosphate and glacial rock dust

Nice! thanks bro. happy growing! Sub'd

PetFlora said:

Class is in session!

Never heard of your seed water tech. Seems logical

I add a few drops of Neptune Seaweed Plant Food

I just bought freeze dried coconut water powder for human consumption.

Now ya got me thinkin...

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Yes you can use the coconut powder, but I think most are cut with tapioca?? which shouldn't be harmful I guess.

MOST important thing about sst is too RINSE often.

You'll like that vegan mix Hyroot , I'm satisfied by it...........just make sure you get a cal/mag source.........maybe your tap is sufficient??

I'm subbed and the grow looks healthy as always friend

lets go DENVER!!!..............daddy says its a LOCK........or I lose my drinking money$$$again....lol

So does this mean u started a new vegan batch a month ago?

i have tried vegan herb, i was not able to tell the difference, it was however top notch quality.

so is poop from any animal vegan?
what do u use for your lime mix?

this would also mean that your compost and vermi bin have to be vegan correct?

PSUAGRO. said:

Yes you can use the coconut powder, but I think most are cut with tapioca?? which shouldn't be harmful I guess.

MOST important thing about sst is too RINSE often.

You'll like that vegan mix Hyroot , I'm satisfied by it...........just make sure you get a cal/mag source.........maybe your tap is sufficient??

I'm subbed and the grow looks healthy as always friend

lets go DENVER!!!..............daddy says its a LOCK........or I lose my drinking money$$$again....lol

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Looks like you are out of drinking money Psu. I have plenty of cal in kelp and egghells. cal and mag in neem meal. The vegan mix has stone meal, sul-po-mag, green sand, soft rock phosphate and azamite. so I'm covered for all minerals

foreverflyhi said:

So does this mean u started a new vegan batch a month ago?

i have tried vegan herb, i was not able to tell the difference, it was however top notch quality.

so is poop from any animal vegan?
what do u use for your lime mix?

this would also mean that your compost and vermi bin have to be vegan correct?

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worm castings are considered ok for vegan. Alot of vegan growers use it.

I haven't used guano or manure or poop in almost 2 years. I stopped using it far before starting rols. I've only used crab meal and occasionally fish meal. Over the last almost 2 years. The pots of soil had been cooking for a while with just worm castings and compost and teas. That's why I'm running the tall 7 gals too. I don't really like those pots. the soil cooked in them for 6 months . I ran out of crab meal and fish meal before I started my last bin. Its just coco, news paper, peat moss, canna leaves, basil leaves, dandelions, lavender, romaine lettuce, celury, oatmeal, neem meal, egg shells, tea bags, kelp meal.

Ima order some 15 gal fabric pots and grow giants. Add coco chunks to the mix. For the next batch yet to be in veg.

**Pulling up a chair**

Lookin forward to porn. I want to check out your lights in more detail too. You've got me looking at LED's.

What's up Hyroot? What do you reckon the penetration intensity of those lights are? I presume you have PAR testing for them knowing you They look lush!

PetFlora said:

I add a few drops of Neptune Seaweed Plant Food

I just bought freeze dried coconut water powder for human consumption.

Now ya got me thinkin...

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the sst enzyme tea kicks ass, Speeds up growth and makes leaves pray. It does ferment though. fresh coconut water would work great in your system.

st0wandgrow said:

**Pulling up a chair**

Lookin forward to porn. I want to check out your lights in more detail too. You've got me looking at LED's.

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Nice to have you along. Stay tuned. I really dig these lights. You will definitely like led's too. You will become a light nerd, oh yes a light nerd.

Shwagbag said:

What's up Hyroot? What do you reckon the penetration intensity of those lights are? I presume you have PAR testing for them knowing you They look lush!

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I don't have a par meter. GreengGenes has one and he took measurements f his Inda Gro / led pontoon combo. I think it was 800 µmole/s at 18 inches away with the led pontoons. The numbers were pretty even through the canopy. with very little drop off. High cri too. Even spectrum. The par rating on my set up might be a little higher with the help of the vpar in the center. I plan on grabbing an apogee eventually

The plants are very happy and healthy under the lights.^]]]

hyroot said:

the sst enzyme tea kicks ass, Speeds up growth and makes leaves pray. It does ferment though. fresh coconut water would work great in your system.






Nice to have you along. Stay tuned. I really dig these lights. You will definitely like led's too. You will become a light nerd, oh yes a light nerd.



I don't have a par meter. GreengGenes has one and he took measurements f his Inda Gro / led pontoon combo. I think it was 800 µmole/s at 18 inches away with the led pontoons. The numbers were pretty even through the canopy. with very little drop off. High cri too. Even spectrum. The par rating on my set up might be a little higher with the help of the vpar in the center. I plan on grabbing an apogee eventually

The plants are very happy and healthy under the lights.^]]]

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Cool man, good info. They're def happy and healthy! I figured the manu had provided PAR testing literature for the customers. Have you ever thought about keeping your canopy lower? Just curious, because those will be fairly tall once your stretch is over.

Shwagbag said:

Cool man, good info. They're def happy and healthy! I figured the manu had provided PAR testing literature for the customers. Have you ever thought about keeping your canopy lower? Just curious, because those will be fairly tall once your stretch is over.

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Nah I want them to be big. Right now they are 30-38 inches tall.. Last night I spaced the plants out a little more.. I want them to finish at 5 feet. See what this set up can really do. Eventually I will add more side lighting. Cree globes most likely.

There are par numbers on the site of 699 µmole/s. It doesn't say the distance and doesn't say whether or not that includes the pontoon. Genes measurements were more accurately detailed.

hyroot said:

Nah I want them to be big. Right now they are 30-38 inches tall. I want them to finish at 5 feet. See what this set up can really do. Eventually I will add more side lighting. Cree globes most likely.

There are par numbers on the site of 699 µmole/s. It doesn't say the distance and doesn't say whether or not that includes the pontoon. Genes measurements were more accurately detailed.

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You're braver than I am

Good luck man, I hope it meets your expectations!