Hydroponics

BTKlotusninja420

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hey i just placed my popped seeds in my sure to grow media...im going to be using the ebb and grow system with a 600w hps unit. for the vegging stage i have a pioneer jr t5 setup in a smaller sized homebox veg tent. how close should i place the t5s in such a smaller confined tent? i killed my last batch i think i gave them nutes wayyyy to early or maybe the light was too close? i have spent about 2000 bucks on getting everything in my possesion now i really want to see results! i have both compley humbolt nute kits (salt based and organic that was about 400 bucks alltogether!) i suppose i just need some good baby steps to get myt plants to be as good as they can be. seedwise i have 4 nevilles haze,2 blue venom,2 pineapple express,1 diesel, and 1 white widow all femd and just placed them in the sure to grow media. i have my t5 almost all the way at the top of the homebox waiting for sprouts,i have a germination heat mat under my flat of cubes. please help i cant bare to lose another bathc of seedlings!

https://www.rollitup.org/members/btklotusninja420-albums-1st-hydrogrow-equipment.html

this is my photo album and the first 3 pics are of my currant attempt..any advice will do!

peace, kozmo


oh and the previous pics are from my last attempt to grow. just look how nice my past seedlings looked and then one day last week,i woke up and they all had collapsed and looked liked they were cooked :cry:

thanks again

kozmo
 

VictorVIcious

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oh and the previous pics are from my last attempt to grow. just look how nice my past seedlings looked and then one day last week,i woke up and they all had collapsed and looked liked they were cooked :cry:

thanks again

kozmo
The number one problem for new growers is over watering. You see, your plants roots need oxygen, and the way they get it is having the medium that they are in dry out a little. As the water leaves, air is pulled in to replace the water and your plants roots get to breath a little air. If this doesn't happen they literally 'drown', fall over, dead. This may be one area you wish to investigate.
The heat mat heats the water in the medium. If the entire block is wet, the extra heat intended for the bottom of the roots is transferred all through the cube, now you have drowned cooked plants.
Is that what you had? Medium that was totally wet and warm with dead plants?
All of this belongs in Your Journal. We will help you, just get all of that together in one place, give details of what you did, especially your watering schedule. No nutes for the first two weeks. VV:bigjoint:
 

BTKlotusninja420

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The number one problem for new growers is over watering. You see, your plants roots need oxygen, and the way they get it is having the medium that they are in dry out a little. As the water leaves, air is pulled in to replace the water and your plants roots get to breath a little air. If this doesn't happen they literally 'drown', fall over, dead. This may be one area you wish to investigate.
The heat mat heats the water in the medium. If the entire block is wet, the extra heat intended for the bottom of the roots is transferred all through the cube, now you have drowned cooked plants.
Is that what you had? Medium that was totally wet and warm with dead plants?
All of this belongs in Your Journal. We will help you, just get all of that together in one place, give details of what you did, especially your watering schedule. No nutes for the first two weeks. VV:bigjoint:

yea lol thats about on the dot what i had..plus i tried nutes to early...i removed the heat mat yesterday and now im just using water and i have my sunleaves pioneer v floro t5 on to produce the required heat they need..sure to grow is an interesting media its almost like medical grade pillow stuffing!:hump:

peace

kozmo :twisted:
 

VictorVIcious

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this might sound dumb but is it possible to have like a hydroponics system outside so you could grow outdoors?
Sure is, many outdoor growers use hydro. The use a drip system, drain to waste. Some mislabel it as a sprinkler system. Most use it for the lawn. If you have access to a hose with decent water close to your grow and electric available then it is possible. You can buy celenoid valves and Sprinkler Timers, even have some with a water mizer feature, so they don't run when it has rained. VV
 

hubebaba

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I am wondering why my roots are turning brown and I have a few leaves turning yellowish brown with brown spots ... what would you suggest ? I do have a bubbletronics unit and my plants are a lil over 5 wks of age
 

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VictorVIcious

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I am wondering why my roots are turning brown and I have a few leaves turning yellowish brown with brown spots ... what would you suggest ? I do have a bubbletronics unit and my plants are a lil over 5 wks of age
What is the water temperature in your unit? Roots can sometimes gain a little color from the nutes, the questions is are the brown and slimy, or just a little discolored. Can you run your fingers down them without breaking them off? Lower leaves are sometimes shed by the plant, is this just happening at the bottom?
A picture of the whole plant may help? VV:eyesmoke:
 

GypsyBush

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Hey VV..

I haven't seen you over at my journal.. so I thought I'd drop some porn on you guys...

Enjoy! and Thanks for all the help!
 

hubebaba

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What is the water temperature in your unit? Roots can sometimes gain a little color from the nutes, the questions is are the brown and slimy, or just a little discolored. Can you run your fingers down them without breaking them off? Lower leaves are sometimes shed by the plant, is this just happening at the bottom?
A picture of the whole plant may help? VV:eyesmoke:
Water temps are 72-77, lower when ice is added. The roots have gotten a bit slimy, but they dont seem to break off (didn't pull 'em). It is just some lower leaves dying, but entire plant is droopy.
 

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VictorVIcious

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Water temps are 72-77, lower when ice is added. The roots have gotten a bit slimy, but they dont seem to break off (didn't pull 'em). It is just some lower leaves dying, but entire plant is droopy.
You do have some issues there, water temp for one. I am not totally familiar with Bubbleponics. Slimy is the beginning of a problem. Check your self into a couple of Bubble Journals and ask someone using that system.

GypsyBush Hey VV..

I haven't seen you over at my journal.. so I thought I'd drop some porn on you guys...

Enjoy! and Thanks for all the help!
That is one sick set up, great job. I opened both of the videos, reminds me of the DirtBags post. I don't make it to many Master Growers Journals these days, I can tell I should.lol VV
 

GypsyBush

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You do have some issues there, water temp for one. I am not totally familiar with Bubbleponics. Slimy is the beginning of a problem. Check your self into a couple of Bubble Journals and ask someone using that system.
This is a great source for DWC info...

Roseman is a gentleman and very knowledgeable too..

Stealth Hydro Bubbleponics Systems


That is one sick set up, great job. I opened both of the videos, reminds me of the DirtBags post.
Thanks!

It's all thanks to Al B. Fuct and other cool users like you that are always willing to help...

I don't make it to many Master Growers Journals these days, I can tell I should.lol VV
Thanks again...!!!:eyesmoke:

But I am a newb... you might remember me pestering Al about my Aerogarden...:lol:

I've been doing ebb/flow for about 6 or 7 months now...;-)

Hope to see you over at the depot...

Cheers...

:joint::peace:
 
Need some hydro help ......I think I may have killed a beautiful 8ft tall indica from flushing it. I did a water flush on it to flush salts, poisons, etc.....and ever since then it has been losing foliage and wilting badly. From the bottom up. The only mistake I can possibly figure is it was out of water for maybe 10 minutes. Any thoughts or experience would be greatly appreciated.
 
I have the 5 gal bucket going with for plants. It has the hydro magic kit. Plug it in and walk away. Should i keep the light on all night they are just getting there first leaves yea
 
:weed:I'm doing the basic Ebb and Flow system its mostly hands off which is nice when your at work all the time. Anyhow I'm just starting with Two plants for now to see if the system works since i'm new to this whole thing and learning as I go. I build my own Ebb and Flow out of rubber made tubs and a water fountain pump, and a resevoir which I found at any local Indoor grow shop. Also got all the nutrients and whole set-up besides light for under probably $250-300. If all goes well I will step it up to 6-10 plants which will take more of an investment but if it yields alot then might be worth it. well here is my system and plants after 4 1/2 weeks.
 

potroast

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Need some hydro help ......I think I may have killed a beautiful 8ft tall indica from flushing it. I did a water flush on it to flush salts, poisons, etc.....and ever since then it has been losing foliage and wilting badly. From the bottom up. The only mistake I can possibly figure is it was out of water for maybe 10 minutes. Any thoughts or experience would be greatly appreciated.
I don't think that any watering problem hurt your plant. Could the problem be that she is 8 feet tall? How far is the light source from the lower leaves? If they are mostly shaded, or too far away, they will not last long.

I have the 5 gal bucket going with four plants. It has the hydro magic kit. Plug it in and walk away. Should i keep the light on all night they are just getting there first leaves yea
Most growers veg their plants by giving 24 hours light, or 18 ON / 6 OFF.

:weed:I'm doing the basic Ebb and Flow system its mostly hands off which is nice when your at work all the time. Anyhow I'm just starting with Two plants for now to see if the system works since i'm new to this whole thing and learning as I go. I build my own Ebb and Flow out of rubber made tubs and a water fountain pump, and a resevoir which I found at any local Indoor grow shop. Also got all the nutrients and whole set-up besides light for under probably $250-300. If all goes well I will step it up to 6-10 plants which will take more of an investment but if it yields alot then might be worth it. well here is my system and plants after 4 1/2 weeks.
That looks great, a nice start. You may want to cover any parts that get wet because algae will grow. Once the system is full of plants, you won't have to worry about it.

Welcome to Rollitup! :bigjoint:
 

cosmofraek

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:weed:I'm doing the basic Ebb and Flow system its mostly hands off which is nice when your at work all the time. Anyhow I'm just starting with Two plants for now to see if the system works since i'm new to this whole thing and learning as I go. I build my own Ebb and Flow out of rubber made tubs and a water fountain pump, and a resevoir which I found at any local Indoor grow shop. Also got all the nutrients and whole set-up besides light for under probably $250-300. If all goes well I will step it up to 6-10 plants which will take more of an investment but if it yields alot then might be worth it. well here is my system and plants after 4 1/2 weeks.
what strain are those?
 

orzz

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I'm not Sure they were just some ones I had laying around and Figured that they would be some good starters. What is the best way to tell the strains are there any tell tale signs ???
It is impossible to figure out a plants genetics or strain from any tell tale signs. Need to know the mother and father and their genetics to get an idea of what the offspring will be. Even then certain traits get passed to some and not others.

So no. As far as I know there is no sure fire way of telling what a plant may be.
 
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