Hydroponics

DrkArt456 said:

Hey everyone I'm new to the forum and just started my first grow a week ago after a lot of planning and researching. Here is a pic of one of my plants. I have nine growing right now and they are all white widow and all about 4 inches tall. The only thing I'm worried about is that they all seem to have weak stems. Idk if this is a problem this early or not. Let me know what you think.

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Yes, those are new little plants, all right. Their stems will strengthen as they grow and are moved by the wind. Don't have wind? use a fan. Or blow on them, they like that.

Better yet, sing to them.

And welcome to Rollitup!

HTH

potroast said:

Don't have wind? use a fan. Or blow on them, they like that.

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haha.. it's ok to blow in their ear, just don't fondle your buds.

Potroast Hey What's UP????,,,,,,,,,

Hey, I've Got A Problem I Would Like To Take Carry Of, I Call It The Claw, But Would Like To Know Why It Develope's, & How To Prevent It.

I Use Aeroponoic's, My PPM Is Around 1400, PH. Around 6.3, They Are In 2" Basket's & 2" Rapid Starter Plug's With A 2" Neoprene Collar,They Get Misted Every Other-Hour For 15min.,The Temp's In The Aeroponic Pod's Is Around 65* To 70*,,They Have Great Root Development,,,The Air Temp's In The Grow Chamber Is Around 79*.

I Use To Just Water 6 Time's A Day, That Worked Out To Be Every 4-Hour's For 15min.,,& Had The Claw Then Too,,I Also Was Getting Some Root-Rot,I Have Noticed That The 2" Plug's Stay To Wet, So I Have Started Cloning With Just The 2" Basket's & Neoprene Collar's With Great Success...

I Don't Think That This is A Big Problem????,,,,It Just Doesn't Look Very Good,,,Just That You Might Be Able To Shed Some Light On The Problem???

Hey Hatch

From those pix I would say you've got several problems. Probably too hot in the room, or at least not enough fresh air. And a nutrient problem, could be just from too high a pH, keep it close to 5.8, or possibly too strong for your plants. And every aero system that I've seen sprayed constantly, or in very short intervals. Root rot is caused mainly by too warm res temps. Check the temp, and add H2O2 if necessary.

So,

improve ventilation for fresh air, should help with res temps too.

spray constantly or use a cyclestat timer.

feed them nutes at 800ppm for a couple of weeks, pH 5.8.

Let us know how it goes.

HTH

potroast said:

Hey Hatch

From those pix I would say you've got several problems. Probably too hot in the room, or at least not enough fresh air. And a nutrient problem, could be just from too high a pH, keep it close to 5.8, or possibly too strong for your plants. And every aero system that I've seen sprayed constantly, or in very short intervals. Root rot is caused mainly by too warm res temps. Check the temp, and add H2O2 if necessary.

So,

improve ventilation for fresh air, should help with res temps too.

spray constantly or use a cyclestat timer.

feed them nutes at 800ppm for a couple of weeks, pH 5.8.

Let us know how it goes.

HTH

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OK, Thank's For The Relpy My Brother!!!I'll Work On It!!

pot roast i am 3 1/2 wks in flowering papaya in hydro dwc bubbler and i have never grown in hydro should my buds be doing better than little white m&m's by now or what no pics for now sorry

can anyone help me with this please!!!!

heehee, thanks Bob, I needed that! You didn't get a reply in 9 minutes, so you posted again.

Funny stuff.

And yes, your buds are right where they should be, where ever that is.

HTH

ok you dont know me but this is my first time flowering some papayas my biggest bud or flower is no bigger than the end of your thumb at 4wks some days i come home from work and they stink real good and then i get worried if once or twice i have came in and the plants have hardly any smell is this normal and in dwc bubbler two 18'' air stones and 400w hps i also feed them co2 and iam working on getting you some pics thank you

Your plants odor will be the strongest just before lights on and just before lights off, and will vary between those hours. What did the seed company say the flowering time is for that strain? VV

Hola!
hippie girl working in my closet here, I have a ventilated propagation box, under 2 fluorescent 2" lights, sealed, w/zipper access, chest level. Along side is my growing enclosure, white polyfilm 7" zipper access, sun systems 250 watt hps lighting. Ventilation sytem is a 265cfm blower in and a 265cfm blower out. Exhaust air goes into carbon filter mounted in top cavity of the closet. Axial fans in and out create air exchange eliminating heat signature and temperature change in my bedroom. I'm growing in a dwc/active drip system, 2 ft flexible airstone, with technaflora nutes rockwool on grow rocks, waiting on co2 tank from the restraunt association that i will hook up to a ppm meter. I'll post pics if anyone can tell me how, lovin big yeilds, how about you?

Doing my first ebb and flow tray soon... Have 3 by 3 table and 40 gal. rez all set up and ready to roll.. Have gh flora series 3 part and floralicious bloom.. Been trying to locate a good week by week feeding schedule so i don't f*ck up the first time. I don't wanna burn my girls until they're ready. : ) Any advice would be shweet. growing in 6" net pots with hydroton under 1000 watt hps.

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ok you dont know me but this is my first time flowering some papayas my biggest bud or flower is no bigger than the end of your thumb at 4wks some days i come home from work and they stink real good and then i get worried if once or twice i have came in and the plants have hardly any smell is this normal and in dwc bubbler two 18'' air stones and 400w hps i also feed them co2 and iam working on getting you some pics thank you

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Yes, your plants are just starting the rapid flower development stage, AKA the middle third, or as the Julian calendar says weeks 4 through 6.

Now when you get to week 7 you'll say, wow these look done. But they're not done, the last third, or weeks 7 through 9 (and on) is the ripening stage, and that is when your patience will pay off.

xochi said:

Hola!
hippie girl working in my closet here, I have a ventilated propagation box, under 2 fluorescent 2" lights, sealed, w/zipper access, chest level. Along side is my growing enclosure, white polyfilm 7" zipper access, sun systems 250 watt hps lighting. Ventilation sytem is a 265cfm blower in and a 265cfm blower out. Exhaust air goes into carbon filter mounted in top cavity of the closet. Axial fans in and out create air exchange eliminating heat signature and temperature change in my bedroom. I'm growing in a dwc/active drip system, 2 ft flexible airstone, with technaflora nutes rockwool on grow rocks, waiting on co2 tank from the restraunt association that i will hook up to a ppm meter. I'll post pics if anyone can tell me how, lovin big yeilds, how about you?

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Hola, hippie. Your setup sounds good, I hope with all of that ventilation that you are able to keep the temps down. I would hold off on using the CO2 in your bedroom, until you are sure where your growroom exhaust is going.

lagwag said:

Doing my first ebb and flow tray soon... Have 3 by 3 table and 40 gal. rez all set up and ready to roll.. Have gh flora series 3 part and floralicious bloom.. Been trying to locate a good week by week feeding schedule so i don't f*ck up the first time. I don't wanna burn my girls until they're ready. : ) Any advice would be shweet. growing in 6" net pots with hydroton under 1000 watt hps.

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You could just use 5ml/gallon of each all the way through, and be just fine. Or you could start with that, and as you go along and read your plants, you could try some small adjustments, like increasing the bloom in mid flowering.


HTH

Hi, guys. I'm planning to start hydroponic growing in my closet, but I'm quite new at this and I can't find a thread like "Hydroponic for dummies" or something. Could somebody help me?

Thanks!

Emperor2008 said:

I have a question....First my plants are about 3weeks into veg and I noticed some burn on the edges so I flushed them for a couple days with a quarter nute and now I have bumped it up to 590ppm and a 5.8ph...also I am flooding the table 4 times in a 24 hr period..lights are fluros and on for 24hrs...Question is my ph seems to go up to about 6.1 and ppms are either going up or staying the same..shouldnt ppms be going down?Thanks for your time.

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ppm can go up as water evaporates from the res, or as plants use the water. just add fresh ph-ed water to your res to keep it at the right level. I would suggest lowering your ph to 5.7 or 5.6, so it stays below 6 longer and will stray to the target ph on its own. algae or bacteria problems can cause ph to fluctuate too.

lagwag said:

Doing my first ebb and flow tray soon... Have 3 by 3 table and 40 gal. rez all set up and ready to roll.. Have gh flora series 3 part and floralicious bloom.. Been trying to locate a good week by week feeding schedule so i don't f*ck up the first time. I don't wanna burn my girls until they're ready. : ) Any advice would be shweet. growing in 6" net pots with hydroton under 1000 watt hps.

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I recommend this: https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/4387-lucas-formula.html

it's been working great for me

Hey Emperor...

I use almost the exact same equipment/setup you do...
Those seedlings in that tray- if they are 2weeks old and all youve been giving them is water they are probably starving for some nutes!! The seeds only have enough self contained food in them to get em popped up... you keep feeding them just water and of course they are going to show problematic symptoms.

Mix up a gallon of about 300ppm fox farm grow big or pure blend pro grow in a bottle and splash a little bit of it in the bottom of your propagation tray... let those cubes get wet... just splash a little bit of your nute mix in the bottom of the tray a couple times a day...what youre trying to do is get those cubes WET, then let em dry out over the course of the day (they will retain plently of water and air) then 10 hours later or so splash a little more in the bottom of the tray..

what I do sometimes is mix up solution around 300ppm in a tupperware bowl and just dip those cubes in halfway and put em back in the tray and let em dry out. then just keep your bowl sealed in a cool dark place (like under a sink or in a cabinet). And for storage i just take the lid off and back on and shake it up every couple days. Works great!....

just remember those cubes hold plenty of air and water.. so as long as they arent directly sitting in stable water, youre not going to drown your plants... they may feel super wet/soaking to you but as long as you just let them drain themselves off at their own pace you really cant screw anything up.

so ya just start giving them some nutes ....

if youre using fox farms... the doseage on the back of the bottle for "seedlings and cuttings" will come out around 500ppm which is just fine for those seedlings.