Hydroponics Question and Answer NewGrowth Style

I was gonna "pack" the table with bag. I just poured some hydroton in one of the bags now. I do see what ur saying. Im gonna check again once my table get here. Im getting the bags for free sooo...

You can aslo put alot more pebbles the bag since u can control how much you fold the bag. You can make em nice an tall. I was hoping for a lil more room for roots. Hopefully once the bags are packed in the table i get more stability.

Do you know anything about the liquig version of the kool bloom?

flipsidesw said:

I was gonna "pack" the table with bag. I just poured some hydroton in one of the bags now. I do see what ur saying. Im gonna check again once my table get here. Im getting the bags for free sooo...

You can aslo put alot more pebbles the bag since u can control how much you fold the bag. You can make em nice an tall. I was hoping for a lil more room for roots. Hopefully once the bags are packed in the table i get more stability.

Do you know anything about the liquig version of the kool bloom?

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Yeah let me know how the bags work out, If you pack them you might not be able to move the plants though . . .

Don't use Gh products so nope never used kool bloom, I think my buddy gave me some though I just put it in storage.

What products are you partial too? Why no gh?

flipsidesw said:

What products are you partial too? Why no gh?

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I use Ionic brand, I like the two part formula. Gh only has a two part with organic components. Ionic is completely inorganic and works well with H202. Its also cheap and I have not seen any reason to switch. Just me though use what ever nutes work for you is what I say . . .

Yea you told me about the ionic before my bad for the reduntancy. I can use h202 with gh flora series right? I thought it was completely synthetic?

flipsidesw said:

Yea you told me about the ionic before my bad for the reduntancy. I can use h202 with gh flora series right? I thought it was completely synthetic?

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Flora nova has humic acid extracts that react with H202. The regular 3 part flora series does not have any organic compounds and will work fine with H202.

Ok Im back lol... Ive been reading some more and people are saying to start at like 500ppm etc etc.. Do you know how much ppm the water is going to be at from previous measurements? Is there a way to measure how much ppm you are adding to the water before you add it? Or just alot of math im assuming?

hamburger said:

Ok Im back lol... Ive been reading some more and people are saying to start at like 500ppm etc etc.. Do you know how much ppm the water is going to be at from previous measurements? Is there a way to measure how much ppm you are adding to the water before you add it? Or just alot of math im assuming?

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Yeah to much math for me . . .

You subtract initial PPM from the total. For example: tap water is 250 ppm, after nutrients it is 1500. Actual ppm is 1500-250= 1250 ppm.

Just measure out doses and measure the corresponding ppm. You will be able to estimate how much to add after you do it a couple times.

NewGrowth said:

I have reading a lot of confusion with hydroponics systems, nutrients,ect. It is often difficult to answer people's questions about hydroponics after a thread has been hijacked and false information has been posted.
I thought I would start a thread where people could ask hydroponics questions. No question is dumb and if it is well I'll tell you. I will also not tolerate any myths or false information.
I'm certainly no expert but I have been growing for years with hydroponics and have set-up and help manage grow operations in quite a few places. One of the best ways for me to continue to learn is to answer your questions so POST AWAY!!

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Hey New,

Have you ever harvested weed that cures brown in any of your many growth operations?

JayDoe71 said:

Hey New,

Have you ever harvested weed that cures brown in any of your many growth operations?

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No But I do have a picture>

I've got about 5 sq ft and am debating between 400 and 600 cooltubed on a closed circuit (ABF style) hps. 600 would be 120w per sq/ft. Too much?

Thanks in advance.

hallo
i have 6 mother plants under flourescent in clay pebbels pots.they are almost 8 weeks old and i noticed that roots comming out of the pots are drying...
i top feed them 3 times a day...
should i feed them more times to avoid the roots to dry or 3 times a day is fine???
tnx

Sup NewGrowth!!

Got a quickie for ya, Do you think 15000 lumens per sqft could compensate for an uneven canopy?

I was hoping to put clones at various stages on the same flood table...

FLip

Im using an ebb n flow hydro system. Ive got 5 plants about 3 weeks into veg. Im currently:

Watering 5 times/day with 600ppm Flora Nova Nutes in the resevoir
24/0 Light Cycle

Some Questions I would kill to have answered:

Am I over watering?
Whens the time to up the ppm?
4 out of 5 are beautiful. One has yellow leaves on the outer rims (chlorisis?)
Is it better to have the room at about 70 at night 75 during day?
Anything else that would help me oh masta of mary jane?

mightyboogie said:

hallo
i have 6 mother plants under flourescent in clay pebbels pots.they are almost 8 weeks old and i noticed that roots comming out of the pots are drying...
i top feed them 3 times a day...
should i feed them more times to avoid the roots to dry or 3 times a day is fine???
tnx

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You will need to feed them more often hydroton does not retain water well. What kind of set up do you have?

doogleef said:

I've got about 5 sq ft and am debating between 400 and 600 cooltubed on a closed circuit (ABF style) hps. 600 would be 120w per sq/ft. Too much?
Thanks in advance.

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The 600w light will provide denser buds, higher yield, an more light penetration. The trade off is heat but if you are using a cool tube it should be fine.

flipsidesw said:

Sup NewGrowth!!

Got a quickie for ya, Do you think 15000 lumens per sqft could compensate for an uneven canopy?

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Possibly depends on the type of light too, higher wattage lamps provide superior penetration.

I was hoping to put clones at various stages on the same flood table...
FLip

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You may be disappointed in the result, when plants are crowded so closely at varied heights the smaller plants are often stunted and yield is reduced.

CeFx said:

Im using an ebb n flow hydro system. Ive got 5 plants about 3 weeks into veg. Im currently:

Watering 5 times/day with 600ppm Flora Nova Nutes in the resevoir
24/0 Light Cycle

Some Questions I would kill to have answered:

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Am I over watering?

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Depends on the medium you are using. Do your plants look overwatered?

Whens the time to up the ppm?

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Here is a guide:
1.Water level drops PPM goes up: Drop your nutrient strength in relationship to the PPM rise.
2. Water level drops PPM stays the same: You may be able to fine tune you nutrient strength, if growth is vigorous leave it alone.
3. Water level drops PPM drops: Raise you nutrient strength in relationship too PPM drop.

4 out of 5 are beautiful. One has yellow leaves on the outer rims (chlorisis?)

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Would have to see the plant

Is it better to have the room at about 70 at night 75 during day?

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Night and day temps are not really important. I try to keep my rooms between 70-78 as long as you can maintain those temps growth will be vigorous.

Anything else that would help me oh masta of mary jane?

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Buddha is the master of mary jane not me

Well i have 1k and was gonna do like 8-9 cuttings every other week and put them in a rotatation Alb style but on one 3x3 table. So be more of a staggered canopy. Make sense? Thoughts?

flipsidesw said:

Well i have 1k and was gonna do like 8-9 cuttings every other week and put them in a rotatation Alb style but on one 3x3 table. So be more of a staggered canopy. Make sense? Thoughts?

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Yeah I understand, it is a small perpetual grow. The crowding might cause some of the smaller plants to grow slower. That is why you want to be able to rotate plants on a table, the ones in the center with more light grow faster so you rotate them to the outer edges to maintain an even canopy. I think you will see reduced yield with that type of crowding. An even canopy is key to high yield in a SOG. You may be more satisfied with a larger harvest every 8 weeks if you are limited to one table.

Depends on the medium you are using. Do your plants look overwatered?

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We are using volcanic rock pebbles. Pretty sure they are pH neutral. The plants seem to be perfect. Just maybe what to look out for incase of overwatering might help me out more?

CeFx said:

We are using volcanic rock pebbles. Pretty sure they are pH neutral. The plants seem to be perfect. Just maybe what to look out for incase of overwatering might help me out more?

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Overwatering is characterized by drooping "heavy" looking leaves, can look similar to under watering in some cases. Volcanic rock can effect reservoir pH if not rinsed properly to dislodge any sediment.

I have a question for you I am setting up a flood table and I'm going to grow white widow and kc 33 what type of medium is the best to use