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livesoul

Well-Known Member
Well i have my mothers under a 400watt MH and my clones flowering under a 1000watt HPS. I've thrown clones into the mother room at the same time as the flower room and the clones i set to mother grow way more bushier, but my nutes are also different, Floranova grow for mothers and Floranova Bloom for flowering.
 

GypsyBush

Well-Known Member
Just peeking in haha whats up GB soggers. So is there a new thread or what.
Hey DL...

Life is GOOD !!!

I am walking and driving... even considering a short hike later on this Summer...

It feels so good to be out and about...

Spring is in the air in the Far North... temps have started to go above freezing during the day and we've already had a 45F day!

The Sun is also back... and it feels wonderful...

Spent all day yesterday preparing some stuff for the green house (It's almost time!).. shorts and a t-shirt... no flip-flops yet, but I assure they are not far...lol....

I miss being here a lot, but the world outside is just so much more interesting...

Dude... they have girls and wine out there... It's a Wonderful World!

I had forgotten what the city was like... lol... almost 10 years in the middle of nowhere will do that to you...lol...

As for a new thread, I am sure it will not happen...

People will be like... well they are all assholes over there.. let's shut them down...

I wish they would instead say: well, they are all assholes over there.. let's not go there....

But people are people and so... we get shut down... :-?
 

GypsyBush

Well-Known Member
Well i have my mothers under a 400watt MH and my clones flowering under a 1000watt HPS. I've thrown clones into the mother room at the same time as the flower room and the clones i set to mother grow way more bushier, but my nutes are also different, Floranova grow for mothers and Floranova Bloom for flowering.
right on... Thanks for the reply...

When you say bushier, do you mean more branches or more leaf?

I am running the same nutes... it's all in the flower room...

Damn galaxy ballast refuses to fire an HPS... I have tried over 10 bulbs... new, used, bad, good, broken... you name it...

But it fires the MH just fine everytime... like a champ...

So one of the trays is under a MH... and it just seems more compact and waaay leafier...
 

livesoul

Well-Known Member
I get more branches and less vertical growth. My clones in the flower room shoot straight up and are at least 2 feet by 2 weeks (sativas). But in the mothering chamber takes usually 3-4 weeks to get to 2 feet and they have more branches.
 

orzz

Well-Known Member
Good bye SOG hello Perpetual.
Great info LB, Bugs, Sparka and others.
Thank you all for the time and effort you put into these forums.
+sub
/bow
 

onthedl0008

Well-Known Member
Hey DL...

Life is GOOD !!!

I am walking and driving... even considering a short hike later on this Summer...

It feels so good to be out and about...

Spring is in the air in the Far North... temps have started to go above freezing during the day and we've already had a 45F day!

The Sun is also back... and it feels wonderful...

Spent all day yesterday preparing some stuff for the green house (It's almost time!).. shorts and a t-shirt... no flip-flops yet, but I assure they are not far...lol....

I miss being here a lot, but the world outside is just so much more interesting...

Dude... they have girls and wine out there... It's a Wonderful World!

I had forgotten what the city was like... lol... almost 10 years in the middle of nowhere will do that to you...lol...
Thats great news GB its good to see ya around havent been around much myself really. Work got real busy and just doing the family thing again..
Good to hear the foot is doing better for ya man.. Yea it is nice to get out.. Haha one thing u said really stuck out.. I pretty much missed the whole winter man lol until i went in to buy a sweater and the clerk was like yea they're all half off now and i was like cool and it occured to me it was actually like 70 degrees out haha :shock: Yea gotta get ur head out of ur ass sooner or later i guess that kinda gave me a complex and motivated me a little bwahahaha.. Oh yea i almost missed something else u said haha i couldnt really think of a much better motivator than the ladies but then again im kinda a perv:hump:.. haha J/K man.. Good to be back around these crazy rebels to.:peace:
 

grandpabear3

New Member
So sad to see the mods interfering in what has been a very good thread...

tsk, tsk.. :?

Bugs, I think you should apply for "modship" on a SOG thread...

and they should give you total and instant BAN authority...

That's my vote...

:joint::peace:
you know as well as i do that, that is a very bad idea! i freely admit it. i would love it and do the job every day with a smile but i might not be the right guy with the right kind of temperment . you know....like potroast. willing to read, listen and research all the facts before acting. ya! no way i could ever be that composed. (see what i mean)

awww shit, Bugs with ban authority? It'd be over.

Newbie: "Hi guys, whats does SOG mean?"

Bugs: "Your question insults the integrity of this thread! ::ban:: bongsmilie Biatch..."
i really do feel loved right now.:hug:

I vote for Bugs!
well i'm totally:shock::shock::shock:

I am all for an EXPERIENCED GROWER'S THREAD... no noobs allowed...
i disagree......we need newbs. and we owe it to them to help. but within reason, no?

It is very annoying to have a thread going really well, with everyone on the same level... just to have some newb barge in and screw it all up...
it does happen but that is the nature of a forum.

I think you guys should be allowed to impose certain conditions before one can post...

Like a basic SOG test, a series of basic questions... if you can pass the test, then you know enough to post...

I agree with Sparky's dictatorship on an advanced thread...

I help newbs in their journals... I seek out people that seem like they will listen and I hold their hand for a while...
not belittleing you in any way man but damn!!!!! where is the loving hippie we all know?

But when I want to discuss advanced techinques... I want to talk to experienced Weed Barons...
check the avatar homie!

On a different note...

Have any of you guys done a comparison of HPS vs MH for flowering?

I think I am noticing CONSIDERABLY more leaf under the MH...

Is this a fluke? did I just happen to arrange all the leafy phenos together? or is it the spectrum encouraging more leaf matter?
spectrum....spot on.

Just peeking in haha whats up GB soggers. So is there a new thread or what.
no silly....this is it. s.o.g. doesnt automatically mean perpetual but to us it does. this is home. i will however befriend all you people on here so if this one gets shut down we can all move en mass instead of 4 or 5 of us starting a new thread.

Good bye SOG hello Perpetual.
Great info LB, Bugs, Sparka and others.
Thank you all for the time and effort you put into these forums.
+sub
/bow
HEY!!!! IT'S A FUCKIN NEW GUY!!!!! GET HIM!!!!!!






TOTALLY KIDDING MODSkiss-ass
 

GypsyBush

Well-Known Member
BUGS said:
you know as well as i do that, that is a very bad idea! i freely admit it. i would love it and do the job every day with a smile but i might not be the right guy with the right kind of temperment . you know....like potroast. willing to read, listen and research all the facts before acting. ya! no way i could ever be that composed. (see what i mean)
We don't need composers... just someone to keep the UNWANTED out...

I firmly believe you are enough of an asshole to scrutinize fairly...
LIVESOUL said:
awww shit, Bugs with ban authority? It'd be over.

Newbie: "Hi guys, whats does SOG mean?"

Bugs: "Your question insults the integrity of this thread! ::ban:: bongsmilie Biatch..."
bUgS said:
i really do feel loved right now.:hug:
DUDE! that is actually, exactly what we need...

Not ban from rollitup, but a definite ban from the thread....
GB said:
I vote for Bugs!

Bugs said:
well i'm totally:shock::shock::shock:
Well..

GB said:
I am all for an EXPERIENCED GROWER'S THREAD... no noobs allowed...
Retar... Oh! I mean Bugs said:
i disagree......we need newbs. and we owe it to them to help. but within reason, no?
Bugs.. newbs are everywhere..

and YES we owe it to them...

and I pay my dues, believe me...

but when I want to come "home" and check in with you guys and there is a freaking little kid tugging at my coat... it annoys the shit out of me....

Newbs have their place...

I was a newb... you know that...

I am just saying, how about a "clubhouse" where you need "membership" to get in...

To get a membership, you must PROVE you are a not a JACKASS...

it's simple really...

no dumbasses (excluding us, of course) allowed

GB said:
It is very annoying to have a thread going really well, with everyone on the same level... just to have some newb barge in and screw it all up...
Mr. Know it all said:
it does happen but that is the nature of a forum.
whatever... I can't think of anything clever to say here...

GB said:
I think you guys should be allowed to impose certain conditions before one can post...

Like a basic SOG test, a series of basic questions... if you can pass the test, then you know enough to post...

I agree with Sparky's dictatorship on an advanced thread...

I help newbs in their journals... I seek out people that seem like they will listen and I hold their hand for a while...
Belittling Bastard said:
not belittleing you in any way man but damn!!!!! where is the loving hippie we all know?
The loving Hippie you all know goes out of his way to help out as many people as he can both here and in real life...

So I do believe it is only fair that he (we) have a place where no one is allowed to "bother" us with basic shit we have explained on that very thread 120 millon times...



GB said:
But when I want to discuss advanced techinques... I want to talk to experienced Weed Barons...
conceeded prick said:
check the avatar homie!
I have and will always come here for advice...

This collection of (alleged) minds works almost as good as the old Fuct threads... hell most of the info has come from there...

GB said:
On a different note...

Have any of you guys done a comparison of HPS vs MH for flowering?

I think I am noticing CONSIDERABLY more leaf under the MH...

Is this a fluke? did I just happen to arrange all the leafy phenos together? or is it the spectrum encouraging more leaf matter?


BugsRon Fire said:
spectrum....spot on.
So Mh does create more leaf matter... hmmm... trimming nightmare...

onthedl0008 said:
Just peeking in haha whats up GB soggers. So is there a new thread or what.
finally a good idea said:
no silly....this is it. s.o.g. doesnt automatically mean perpetual but to us it does. this is home. i will however befriend all you people on here so if this one gets shut down we can all move en mass instead of 4 or 5 of us starting a new thread.
We should do it preventatively...

And I vote for it to be in Toke and talk with a title such as...

You are not invited please don;t post...

or something like that.. and bugs could threaten people's grow with fire and I could reinforce it with some Gypsy spells....

That's what I'm saying.. we help out a lot of people.. can't we have a place owr own?

That's what I'm saying...

orzz said:
Good bye SOG hello Perpetual.
Great info LB, Bugs, Sparka and others.
Thank you all for the time and effort you put into these forums.
+sub
/bow
I love this comment said:
HEY!!!! IT'S A FUCKIN NEW GUY!!!!! GET HIM!!!!!!
Hell yeah! Flog the SOB...

Oh wait, he didn't ask stupid shit, and he was halfway civil...

Give him the test...!






biggest pussy in RIU said:
TOTALLY KIDDING MODSkiss-ass
Pussy....
 

SpruceZeus

Well-Known Member
You would think that the free exchange of ideas would be an easy thing to achieve in a community full of greenthumbed revolutionarys. But alas, the brass ring seems to elude our grip. This time foiled by the greasy lubricant that takes the form of stubborn internet trolls.
 

deerslayer

Active Member
Thanks lb for the confidence boost.
I still think it had something to do with the coco having a phosphorous build up, locking out the nitrogen. I just dont know what would have caused it with 5 out of 8 mothers that were all in coco from the same bag.

I dont post alot as you can tell, and I guess in the eyes of fourm gurus that make me a newbie, however I am not a newbie to growing and I also don't want to claim to be an expert either. I am just kinda funny when it comes to posting on these here type of forums. With any luck the silly questions that some are asking wont be totally disreguarded, but maybe answered in a way that will make them take thier questions to a newbie thread. I am by no means putting them down, just saying I agree with the "weed barons" of this thread.

lb since I read you are the strain guru, what do you think about this thread, if you got a min to take a look?
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/178306-way-cross-m-x-f.html
 

LoudBlunts

Well-Known Member
haha bro... i still consider myself a noob. i learn something everyday. i cannot accept guru nor expert...i just like my toys and gadgets and i like to grow great pot. excess of clones let me experiment and run test...so i feel you.

and i've also seen you post before, and i've peeped your join date ;)

lol and oh yea..somebody lied to you, im not the strain guru, i'm still expanding my knowledge in that arena..... i do have a friend that is a very knowledgable breeder. im just a strain whore :p and like variety. breeding im about to get into sooner or later
 

SpruceZeus

Well-Known Member
haha bro... i still consider myself a noob. i learn something everyday. i cannot accept guru nor expert...i just like my toys and gadgets and i like to grow great pot. excess of clones let me experiment and run test...so i feel you.

and i've also seen you post before, and i've peeped your join date ;)

lol and oh yea..somebody lied to you, im not the strain guru, i'm still expanding my knowledge in that arena..... i do have a friend that is a very knowledgable breeder. im just a strain whore :p and like variety. breeding im about to get into sooner or later
You're one hell of a grower for a noob :hump:

It seems like every post you make has at least some substance to it.
I'd have worn my rep button out on you if this damn thing didnt keep telling me to spread it around.
kiss-assenough ass kissing, i just wanted to spread some good cheer.

...and a jar of weed
 

onthedl0008

Well-Known Member
I do remember seeing a scroll with LB's name on it but tread lightly folks.
Before anyone elses ass gets kissing...
U must kiss the ring on the finger of the only one and true Weed Baron Bugs.:bigjoint::lol:
I love baby ganja jesus.:eyesmoke:
 

grandpabear3

New Member
We don't need composers... just someone to keep the UNWANTED out...

I firmly believe you are enough of an asshole to scrutinize fairly...




DUDE! that is actually, exactly what we need...

Not ban from rollitup, but a definite ban from the thread....



Well..




Bugs.. newbs are everywhere..

and YES we owe it to them...

and I pay my dues, believe me...

but when I want to come "home" and check in with you guys and there is a freaking little kid tugging at my coat... it annoys the shit out of me....

Newbs have their place...

I was a newb... you know that...

I am just saying, how about a "clubhouse" where you need "membership" to get in...

To get a membership, you must PROVE you are a not a JACKASS...

it's simple really...

no dumbasses (excluding us, of course) allowed




whatever... I can't think of anything clever to say here...




The loving Hippie you all know goes out of his way to help out as many people as he can both here and in real life...

So I do believe it is only fair that he (we) have a place where no one is allowed to "bother" us with basic shit we have explained on that very thread 120 millon times...






I have and will always come here for advice...

This collection of (alleged) minds works almost as good as the old Fuct threads... hell most of the info has come from there...






So Mh does create more leaf matter... hmmm... trimming nightmare...





We should do it preventatively...

And I vote for it to be in Toke and talk with a title such as...

You are not invited please don;t post...

or something like that.. and bugs could threaten people's grow with fire and I could reinforce it with some Gypsy spells....

That's what I'm saying.. we help out a lot of people.. can't we have a place owr own?

That's what I'm saying...





Hell yeah! Flog the SOB...

Oh wait, he didn't ask stupid shit, and he was halfway civil...

Give him the test...!








Pussy....
i think i agree with all that. and thank you. you made me laugh sooooo god damned hard with the quotes and the uh hmm...names:shock:
carefull....they are always watching. silly rebel:hug:

You would think that the free exchange of ideas would be an easy thing to achieve in a community full of greenthumbed revolutionarys. But alas, the brass ring seems to elude our grip. This time foiled by the greasy lubricant that takes the form of stubborn internet trolls.
wow:o....i had no idea i liked you. congtratufuckinglations:hug:

I dont post alot as you can tell, and I guess in the eyes of fourm gurus that make me a newbie, however I am not a newbie to growing and I also don't want to claim to be an expert either. I am just kinda funny when it comes to posting on these here type of forums. With any luck the silly questions that some are asking wont be totally disreguarded, but maybe answered in a way that will make them take thier questions to a newbie thread. I am by no means putting them down, just saying I agree with the "weed barons" of this thread.
well said sir

lb since I read you are the strain guru
i think that is my fault.......for putting that idea out there.

I do remember seeing a scroll with LB's name on it but tread lightly folks.
Before anyone elses ass gets kissing...
U must kiss the ring on the finger of the only one and true Weed Baron Bugs.:bigjoint::lol:
I love baby ganja jesus.:eyesmoke:
SEE......SEE......somebody gets it.

hell i vote for me too. how do we do it. lets vote me into power of the s.o.g. thread. and i like hiding in toke and talk also.
and finally i will be able to crush sparkafire once and.....oops....er...ummm i ehhhh mean....able to help so many.:-?
 

grandpabear3

New Member
btw gb, you have basically taken over sparky's spot as my nemesis/supporter. gotta love bi-polar people. good to see you around and i could not be happier to know that you arent hobbled any longer. hope the grow is going well and back on track.:weed:
 

GypsyBush

Well-Known Member
Thanks Bugs....

Hey isn't Toke'nTalk unmoderated? we should totally move there...

What, are they going to bitch about us discussing growing techniques in the BS forum?????

Seriously...

as for my op... things are a mess....

I filled 3/4 capacity at once... then I slowly filled the last 1/4 over the next week...

Then as I had newer, stronger clones pop roots, I started replacing the smallest with the more vigorous ones...

The end result is pathetic...

I have clones that went in yesterday, the day before, the day before that... and it will continue until I have no clones rootedthat are better than what is on the tray...

Call it the Chaos SOG.... freaking nightmare...

I've had to re-re-arrange everything a few times to make sure everyone gets no shade...

I tell you... freaking mess...

But some are starting to look pretty good...

and you can most derff. see that there are 4 strains on there...

Adjusting by height actually organized them by strain, sort of...

Oh and I have some stupid shit to tell you...

All of the buds you have ever seen of mine were fucked up... tweakers...

I didn't read the fucking label on the bottle...

I was running Bloom Juice 1400 ppm and the same quantity of the Boost Juice, which is to be used only once a week, and in way less wuantities than I was using it...

They had Boost full blast everyday of their cycle... tweakers...

I have since flushed, and refrained from the boost...

I averaged 22g lollipops on that run... but I kept 4 of them, because I noticed after the flush they had amazing new bud growth...

They were all like that, so I only kept 4 going longer...

Today... week 13 of flowering they are well past where their mates were... I almost wish I had kept them all in there... these things are monsters... not so tall, but thick and dense and heavy...

I bet I will get 1oz or more per, on these...

Which brings me to my next batch... the non tweakers....lol....

I can't wait to see them pack on some weight to see the real difference...

And I switched a few things around...

I am no longer using the NSR Grennleaves products...

I have decided to move over to the Fox Farms line of products and try my hand at organic for a bit...

I have tried Hygrozyme, and I like it... WHITE SPAGHETTI NOODLES is what I see coming out of the pots... beautiful...

The shop here was put of it and I bought Sensizyme... shit stinks! and it made a LOT OF THICK FOAM, I almost dumped it all out the next day.. it was gross..

But at day 3 the solution turned clear and all traces of foam disappeared

The roots are not as white and think as with Hygrozyme but they do look very healthy... just not the "glow in the dark" white that Hygrozyme does...

Another thing I have incorporated into my op is a fishtank filter...

The come with 2 sponges and a carbon filter...

I discarded the carbon and ONLY USE THE SPONGES...

I have been amazed at the amount of junk it filters from my tank...

From nasty goo, to hairs, bits of leaf...

I clean them with the res and found that they catch stuff everytime...

And they have a "port" for air, so it can oxygenate your solution as well...

I ditched the airstone for this...and I am happy...

Oh, and I have been meaning to ask you guys with aircooled hoods...

How do you connect the duct to the hood?

With just a clamp? it seems my 6" shit is about 1/4 to 1/2 inch off from the ducts and fans...

I have everything taped up, but it is starting to let loose..

It seems that you should be able to fit 6" duct into a 6" flange and have it fit PERFECT! right?

Anyways...

Another thing I have to tell you.. is that I have slowly faded out every RR plug I had in favor of RW cubes...

I love the shit... once I figured the water by weight method, I have had great success and do not plan on changing anything...

I have even ditched the scale and the actual weighing of the cubes...

After doing it methodically for a while, my hand kinda picked up the "calibration" and now I do just as Al does... dip the corner for about a second...

But you have to KNOW what it is supposed to weigh and get used to it before you just go blindly dipping corners..lol...

Cubes are still the only RW though... straight hydroton in the pots, cubes above flood level...

Well guys...

Enjoy your Sunday...

:joint::bigjoint:
 

LoudBlunts

Well-Known Member
You're one hell of a grower for a noob :hump:

It seems like every post you make has at least some substance to it.
I'd have worn my rep button out on you if this damn thing didnt keep telling me to spread it around.
kiss-assenough ass kissing, i just wanted to spread some good cheer.

...and a jar of weed

thank you and the rest for the kind words

and omgah thas some nice looking weed. loud (bright & smelly) and bluntable....just like i like it!!!
 

Thundercat

Well-Known Member
Gypsy what is up man? I havn't heard from you in awhile!!! Sounds like your feelin better. Glad to hear it. Hows your garden been? I've finally got some buds, they are about 4 weeks in. You might also be glad to hear that I'm pretty much sold on the Ebb & Flow for my next grow. I posted the idea I had on my thread, I think its gonna be sweet. Any way, talk to ya latter man. TC
 
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