Huge Led grow light

ODGROP

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Wow a 2500$ light it might put out the lumens of 3 1000w lights but hell you could get 5 pretty nice 1000w HPS lights for that kind of money. I would also bet that you could cover a lot more area with 5 1000w lights than you could with that thing.
 

greenleafhigh

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LED imo are just like hybred cars give them a couple tries to make the perfect one before you go out buying a roughdraft..
 

Acidburn999819

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LED imo are just like hybred cars give them a couple tries to make the perfect one before you go out buying a roughdraft..
exactly, i mean give it a couple more years the price will go down....because they are ridiculously cheap to make and they will be more effective...it would be too much of a risk to me knowing that there are other things out there that are cheap and know for a FACT work wonders
 

marchold

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It would be better to get several UFO's sometimes they break and if you have several UFO's you can send one in for repair while the others grow your stuff.
HPS is a lot better than LED, I have tried both.
 

stiffer

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yeah hps is probs always going to be better but heat is biggest problem with, i want to do a bigish grow some time but dont want to get caught
 

dhhbomb

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true i cant wait for led to work with the same efficenty of an hps it would be great for all indoor growers since they use less energy and cool it would make flir worthless but not yet in 5 years i think they will be there but not yet
 

marchold

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yeah hps is probs always going to be better but heat is biggest problem with, i want to do a bigish grow some time but dont want to get caught
Yea, I understand the heat/stealth issue. The LED lights are ideal for unventilated tiny spaces. You should consider looking in to the 50w LED panels. I have been buying them off e-bay after I discovered that they are basically the same LED's in the UFO but less expensive. Also I was disappointed by how loud the UFO was, and the panels have no cooling fan so they are silent. Another advantage of the panels is that the power supply is external instead of built in. Having an external power supply keeps heat out of the grow room. I think you would get much better yield if you used LED and a very small HPS that was only on for 2 hours a day or as much as heat permits.
If you are going to buy some let me know and I will provide a link to the best panels I found on e-bay.
 

marchold

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yeh i defo want to get some led panels, link away....
http://cgi.ebay.com/48-Watt-HIGH-POWER-LED-Grow-Light-Red-Blue-Panel_W0QQitemZ320322793599QQcmdZViewItemQQptZHydroponics_Seed_Starting?hash=item320322793599&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50

This one comes up regularly for $99 + $10 ship. I have several of these and in my opinion they are better and less expensive than UFO. I have had LED lights break in these panels, unlike the UFO only some of the LED's died so the panel is still sorta useful.

There is a very similar one but I could not find it today on e-bay. It looks almost identical to the one I gave you a link for but seems a bit brighter. It ships from hong kong and you can identify it becuase the way the power cord plugs in to it.

See how the plug goes in to the panel and it has no cord that comes out of it. Those 50w panels seem better.

I have also seen the same light as the first link being marketed as a 55w or a 50w.

These lights definatly work. I had a 1.7'x1.7'x4' grow tent for my mother plant. I also have 2 20w floro's in there. The plants seem to grow fine in there with the UFO or the Panel.

The key is to make sure the watts per led is not much below 1/2. The old style LED's are not designed for light output so those 225led panels are total crap. They are 16w or 12w which means each led is less than 1/10w which means it was not designed for light. And therefore sucks. The UFO and these 48w/50w panels use 1/2w LED's. The TI smart bar uses 2w led's and it is probobly the best one out there but super pricy.

If you get like 4 or 6 of those 48w panels you will have 200 or 300w of power. Which is enough. I think adding a single small floro for spectrum is better.
 

Jonus

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in this one thread monster indoor i think the dude was using a led light,with great results.


https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/44836-huge-monster-indoor-plant.html
You can see the HPS in the picture, theyre not grown with LEDs.

Now, lets take a looksee at this comment they make.

The new Illuminator SuperPro Series has been designed to add a 3rd Spectrum to the blended mix of light. The original LED Lights combined the Red 610nm with the Blue 430nm.
So what they are saying is the original LED came with an orange LED mixed with a blue one. The orange one is of course, the wrong spectrum for photosynthesis. There is NO SUCH THING AS 610 nanometers Red. 610nm IS orange.

As for the blue spectrum, the 'absorption peaks' of bother chlorophyll a and b in the blue spectrum are between 453nm and 465nm so even their blue spectrum LEDs are not the optimum.

To increase the flowering production, we have added a 612nm Orange to the blend
So here they admit that around the 610 612nm mark is orange not red, its the wrong spectrum for Chlorophyll, so why add more???

and increased the RED wavelength to 660nm.
Their continued use of this line of thinking shows me they do not understand the basics, 101 of nanometer light spectrum. You cannot increase the wave length of red from 610 to 660nm. You are changing the just installing 660nm LEDs which look red.

660nm is a better spectrum for photosynthesis, but the mind boggles why they would even bother leaving any 610nm LEDs on there let alone add in some 612nm ones...

This combination has proved to be far more sucessful than the 1st blended LED Grow Light. The addition has really produced much better results during the flowering stage.
I can tell you right now they have never flowered weed with this light.

3: The Yield.....This is pretty much what it's all about right? well the output of (1) 600W LED Grow Panel is equivalent to (3) 1000W HID Grow Lights.....
There is no such thing as mere 'Output', its lumens per square foot or nothing. The brightest LEDs out there are outputting around 4000 lumens per square foot within the first 13 inches of light from the LED array, great for vegging, under half powered for growing big bud.

They give the dimensions as:
Dimensions - 480 x x314 x 94 mm

In reality, this light will cover an area around 600mm x 800mm with its optimum lumens.

Recommended height (based on 100 sq. ft. coverage):
2-6 feet (adjust as needed)
More fiction. At 2 feet above your plants the 120 degrees angled 1 watt LEDs will cover 2 metres but the lumens will be greatly decreased at the two foot mark. Since there is no plant folliage between 1 inch and 13 inches, then all the potential intense lumens are completely wasted.

At 6 feet above the canopy you will get about a 10 sq metre coverage of very lite intensity LED light. If youre lucky your plants will be getting about 200 lumens per square foot....a little short on lumens considering your plants need 10,000 lumens per square foot to grow big bud.

Again, they have never flowered weed with this light or else they would not be copy and pasting that advertising spin from those Chinese websites that manufacture those lights.
 

Jonus

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I think that subject has been covered about a million times. Try the search first brownsmoke13
 

marchold

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Even if the light does work great why pay that price ??????
There are cases where it makes sense.
1,You want to be totally stealth and you do not care about yield.
2,You have a space that is way too small to grow in.
3,Side lighting.

the people who sell LED grow lights lie so much about there potential that it makes it difficult to have sensible discussion about LED's. We all know that 90w LED does not equal 400w HPS, and in fact 400w HPS is better than 400w LED.

Here is a real world senario where the lights make sense. I have a standard closet which has a shelf about 6 feet up and only 2 feet to the ceiling. I used to have CFL's up there for clones to veg but they would quickly get tall enough to touch the light and burn. By replacing the CFL's with LED's I was able to put 250w of light power in the top and veg beautfully. The light only takes 1 inch of space from the celing and my plants are ok touching them. I definatly increased my overall yield in this space with LED's.
 
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