How to setup scrog and when ?

Hi, second plant here, she seems to like her environment a lot, she grows quite impressively

I would like to install a "fence" to avoid having to twist the plant, because I am very afraid of doing something stupid

I have a "chicken coop" type fence, I can at the limit enlarge the holes with pruning shears, will that do it? and how far from my plant should I install the grid?

thanks

(strain is northern light auto, day 20)

If your chicken coop fence is chicken wire, you're just gonna cut up your plants. Get some of the nylon netting or the bungee type net and just clip or zip tie to the tent poles. Wrestle the plant into the net. Easy peasy

Blablatok said:

Hi, second plant here, she seems to like her environment a lot, she grows quite impressively

I would like to install a "fence" to avoid having to twist the plant, because I am very afraid of doing something stupid

I have a "chicken coop" type fence, I can at the limit enlarge the holes with pruning shears, will that do it? and how far from my plant should I install the grid?

thanks

(strain is northern light auto, day 20)

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Ideally you would wait until plants are about 30 inches.
A TRUE scrog is a scrog TABLE not just a nylon net. Using a nylon net would cause issues and the plant will juat push it out of its way.
Using metal fence with 2"x4" rectangles, or 3"x3" squares attached to a 3/4" pvc pupe table would be the best bet.

You want to smash the plant under the table, veg another 3 days or so and then flip to flower once your side shoots have shot back up through the scrog table.

If you dont use the table and you just use a net, its more trellising than a true SCROG.

18-20" tall table for indicas and 24-26" tall table for sativas.

Ok, thanks for your answers, so I can build one with a wooden frame and some string right?

Because twisting the plant, the stem is already hard enough and the plant I don't know if it's big enough

I heard that you have to wait a bit before starting the LST (usually week 3 or 4), seeing how the rod is now, if I wait a week it will be impossible

is this kind of wire for LST good or will it cut the plant? (By LST i mean twist the stem and link the wire to my pot)

I'm a little afraid that my plant will be 80-120 cm because I don't have the space

thanks !

You can use those wire ties, I prefer them. You can use fabric pot as something to poke through and open up the plant and once it is wider than the fabric pot can be used for to anchor, you can set up a net and proceed with same concept but with netting by weaving branches through it as they grow long enough to. I read and tried 2.5 weeks to start lst, asap is best.

If stem is stiff, it gets more flex during stretch but for now you can have two opposing wire ties to make it shift and keep adding ties to one side between nodes until it is 90 degrees. Main stems can be like that as I think that is what you are describing needs to be done or you can just top it. Nodes aside from main stem normally have more flex until you break verticle dominance.

This will continue until space is 75% full or so, flip to flower and will have a few more weeks to keep weaving branches until mid flower or so which branches get too stiff to bend. This allows less plants to fill a more even/wider canopy for adequate light exposure to what would be smaller but more abundant buds.

You can hang a second 6” net to support colas and to allow colas to grow slanted or keep it very flat. All scrogs are something like this. Just confining the plant to a more concentrated cube so lower growth grows like the top growth with minimal need to raise light, especially from where you intended it to be, plant still gains height till late flower.

thanks for the answer !

i'll try the netting method, also i'll do the scrog netting myself with wooden frames and thin ropes

so i have to weave the branches to the net when they go beyond it, right ?

I think she needs a week, maybe two before pre-flowering and therefore stretching, so i'll construct the net before

I would like to avoid having to cut the top of my plant because it is an autoflowering variety and I have heard that they do not recover well from this kind of experience

Blablatok said:

thanks for the answer !

i'll try the netting method, also i'll do the scrog netting myself with wooden frames and thin ropes

so i have to weave the branches to the net when they go beyond it, right ?

I think she needs a week, maybe two before pre-flowering and therefore stretching, so i'll construct the net before

I would like to avoid having to cut the top of my plant because it is an autoflowering variety and I have heard that they do not recover well from this kind of experience

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Yes, soon as it is long enough to tuck into the net. I prune and defoliate autos like they’re photo periods, works fine. Perhaps that was back when most autos grew into dwarfs. I grew like 5 autos and each grew fine with pruning. Pruning was even needed to make it to harvest.

Ive experiemented with tie downs and it got old fast. The best advise I use. When plants have 5 leafs and go 2 staulks up cut top. Makes 1 into 2 tops. from there on cut tops going up all you want. my plants usually flower with about 8-12 tops not counting below tops. All this tie down stuff gets old and topping like I mentioned is best for me. bushy dam plants. good luck

Honestly I wouldn't even try to scrog that plant, its an auto flower, and its already staying small. If its 4 weeks old, then it might only veg for another 1-2 weeks and then start flowering. There is no point is messing around trying to LST or scrog an autoflower that size and shape. If it was getting really big, stretchy or lanky, and needed to be controled then go for it, but thats not what I'm seeing here. I believe if you mess with that plant it is likely to slow its veg growth down, and not get as big as possible before it starts flowering. Which could decrease yields significantly.