how to keep your seedlings under 3 inches tall FOR DUMMIES!

skoalmint614

Active Member
this is a simple tutorial with pictures of a micro bagseed grow , to show the fellow newbies how easy it is too keep your seedlings under 3 inches all the way into the second node!

well guess what! weak lights is not an excuse :cool: ..... i do grows with micro 8 watt florescent tubes and 21 watt CFL lights, and my seedlings are not even 2 inches tall and already have thick stems and are on their second nodes with the first true leaves large and in charge!

how? simple , take the stems of the new born seedlings and bend them gently so they are bent straight over with the soil..... come back in a day or so when the plant has started groing upwards again and bury that length of the stem in the soil.....come back and do it again....then cut the starter leaves off and bury up too the first set of true leaves...BANG you have successfully saved your seedlings from wasting a whole foot on stem space! ....now your seedlings should grow much more bushy and stay much shorter. ive even seen a reduction in inter node length threw ought the whole veg just by doing this during the first few weeks.

NOTICE how the plants have changed spots from me burying the stems....those buried stems grow roots and become roots!

( pics of whole process attached... )
 

Attachments

Last edited:

420monster

Well-Known Member
Weak light skinny plants huh I had 8 plants about 12" x 12" grown with 4 17w t8 ' s and they were not even stretched with about nickel size stems did grow slow as all hell tho 2 month veg 12" tall

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Rollitup mobile app
 

dgthumb

Well-Known Member
your welcome! , ive found that you can really burry them deep as shit as long as your nice too them and they will be okay , ive even snipped my starters off and buried up too the first true leaves!
I'd think, that if the stem is buried early enough, it would develop additional roots. I might have to try this to confirm it though.
 

skoalmint614

Active Member
best way for us all to know for sure is to all try it! , its worked for me but im not a professional grower i grow for shits and giggles.
 

420monster

Well-Known Member
I'd think, that if the stem is buried early enough, it would develop additional roots. I might have to try this to confirm it though.
Dosent matter when you barry it even if its older it will eventually grow roots this has been tested many times over there is even a sticky about replanting long stretchy stems

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Rollitup mobile app
 

dgthumb

Well-Known Member
Dosent matter when you barry it even if its older it will eventually grow roots this has been tested many times over there is even a sticky about replanting long stretchy stems

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Rollitup mobile app
I agree, just haven't tested it to confirm the knowledge. I thinking of one of my out door grows, had a thick stem develop root nubs right above the dirt level. So without having actually done a test I didn't want to say "yes it'll do it" But the theory seems sound.
 

skoalmint614

Active Member
Is that a cardboard micro grow?

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Rollitup mobile app
ahh this is a shoe box grow! with a 8 watt micro florescent! yea 8 watts smaller then some of the smallest CFL are 11 watt i shit you not i cant find CFL as small as micro fluorescent bulbs and i sware by these micros! the CFL may be more compact , but just the swirling shape blocks a ton of light and sends it every which way , as where the micro just is a straight tube and 8 watts is so small but it always does great for micro grows even better for me than CFL bulbs! i love these , and they come with the ballast! so no need to put connectors and extension cords!
 

Attachments

Last edited:

420monster

Well-Known Member
ahh this is a shoe box grow! with a 8 watt micro florescent! yea 8 watts!!! smaller then some of the smallest CFL are 11 watt!
That's actually pretty sweet just be careful with cardboard my very very first grow had all the good shit cardboard aluminum foil cut lamp cords electrical tape 2 cfls and it was so fire the closet caught fire

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Rollitup mobile app
 

dgthumb

Well-Known Member
ahh this is a shoe box grow! with a 8 watt micro florescent! yea 8 watts smaller then some of the smallest CFL are 11 watt i shit you not i cant find CFL as small as micro fluorescent bulbs and i sware by these micros! the CFL may be more compact , but just the swirling shape blocks a ton of light and sends it every which way , as where the micro just is a straight tube and 8 watts is so small but it always does great for micro grows even better for me than CFL bulbs! i love these , and they come with the ballast! so no need to but connectors and extension cords!
Nike. He did it!!
 

skoalmint614

Active Member
That's actually pretty sweet just be careful with cardboard my very very first grow had all the good shit cardboard aluminum foil cut lamp cords electrical tape 2 cfls and it was so fire the closet caught fire

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Rollitup mobile app
thats so scary oh my fucking lord lmao! yea CFL bulbs are not safe since alot of times that means using adaptors and lots of cords , but with just 8 watts and a long tube ballast that is straight wall plug that cuts all that out! and 8 watts is not even hot to the touch like a CFL is , even a 21 watt standard size CFL can get hot as fuck to the touch! but this little tiny 8 watt barely even gets hot , i say its " luke warm " to the touch! and the since its its own ballast its alot safer than using adapters!
 

420monster

Well-Known Member
thats so scary oh my fucking lord lmao! yea CFL bulbs are not safe since alot of times that means using adaptors and lots of cords , but with just 8 watts and a long tube ballast that is straight wall plug that cuts all that out! and 8 watts is not even hot to the touch like a CFL is , even a 21 watt standard size CFL can get hot as fuck to the touch! but this little tiny 8 watt barely even gets hot , i say its " luke warm " to the touch! and the since its its own ballast its alot safer than using adapters!
I was just thinking flammable materials and electricity togeather only takes 1 spark but like I said still a bad ass micro grow and you can do alot with shallow more wide pots with less vertical space that's how raised beds work I have seen 3 inch tall boxes out preform 5 gallon bags because the roots grow out instead of down

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Rollitup mobile app
 

kmog33

Well-Known Member
Or you can just have enough light on them that they don't stretch as seedlings.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

skoalmint614

Active Member
My LED is usually about 4 -6" above these week old babies
lord i dont know if i could ever get into LED growing , simply because CFL and micro/mini florescent bulbs are sooo fucking cheap and easy to set up and use! , but im not doging on it it at all! :razz: i just feel like its really more for the grower that wants to be advanced as possible IMO or some other urge that they may have inside to cause them to want LEDS , its just too easy for me to stick with floros all together for me to ever really try anything else , when i do larger grows i just use florescent tubes on a cheap ballast that i raise and lower , and it always gives my trees exactly what they need to thrive! , but since you do use LEDS , what makes youuuuu do it? o_O
 

skoalmint614

Active Member
Or you can just have enough light on them that they don't stretch as seedlings.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
some will still put an 6 inches or so for no reason , and some also will have a spinally stem regardless that people wanna bury
 

kmog33

Well-Known Member
some will still put an 6 inches or so for no reason , and some also will have a spinally stem regardless that people wanna bury
I guess ime if you have enough light/a good spectrum it's not really a problem at all. Like outdoors I've never seen it happen. It also probably has to do with Airflow. Like if your seedling are in stagnant air they don't develop strong stems, but if you have some airflow on them and good humidity/light they seem to focus more on roots and building a strong stem rather than stretching up initially. Ime all strains, given optimal conditions, do not stretch like the examples here.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Top