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How to guarantee certain yields

ScrappyD

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5 months? that seems like a damned long average. Very first grow i did i did 4 weeks veg and 8-9 weeks flowering, under 1 week drying (just under 3.5 months total) and each plant yielded 2 ounces.

Unless you are using poor lighting, then 5 months should EASILY see you 3-4 ounces.

More details though. We can only give you our best advice if we know what conditions you are working with. do you have an HPS, what size, are you using a tent, or a small cupbouard, etc etc etc. All of these are important factors.
Well I'm talking about start to finish. So germ 2 weeks, veg 6 weeks (i top a couple times so need some heal time), flower 8-10weeks, dry 1-2 weeks. So that equals between 17-20 weeks. Maybe I don't need to Veg for so long?
 

chuck estevez

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Well I'm talking about start to finish. So germ 2 weeks, veg 6 weeks (i top a couple times so need some heal time), flower 8-10weeks, dry 1-2 weeks. So that equals between 17-20 weeks. Maybe I don't need to Veg for so long?
Bigger lights speed veg time, but being you have a limit, you need a well trained plant
 

ScrappyD

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you can get some peat moss,perlite,ewc and mix it up, all from HD. or find a good potting soil with no pre fertilization. you want to be able to control feedings.
Ahh ok this is good to know! so no "pre fertilization", that doesn't sound too hard to find! Do you recommend nutrients like Fox Farm Trio (this is what I used to use) or should I try something more organic? (keeping in mind i'm still a noobie haha)
 

chuck estevez

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Ahh ok this is good to know! so no "pre fertilization", that doesn't sound too hard to find! Do you recommend nutrients like Fox Farm Trio (this is what I used to use) or should I try something more organic? (keeping in mind i'm still a noobie haha)
Organic doesn't come in a bottle, you really have to build a soil to be "organic" go back to last post on 1 st pg and check out the pro-mix link. I use that and jack's classic citrus grow. and that is it. They work very well together. the plant doesn't know organic from synthetic. Just use a small amount every time you water and keep them green. you will see awesome results. You can use the Fox farm trio till it's gone. it works fine.
 

ScrappyD

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Bigger lights speed veg time, but being you have a limit, you need a well trained plant
So putting more CFL's in my grow room could cut down slightly on my Veg time? Thats good to know! As for well trained, would you suggest topping. LST or both? I think I'd like to stay away from scrog for the first few grows until I get comfortable
 

ScrappyD

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Organic doesn't come in a bottle, you really have to build a soil to be "organic" go back to last post on 1 st pg and check out the pro-mix link. I use that and jack's classic citrus grow. and that is it. They work very well together. the plant doesn't know organic from synthetic. Just use a small amount every time you water and keep them green. you will see awesome results. You can use the Fox farm trio till it's gone. it works fine.
Ah i c. Thats good to hear because I do find it much easier just adding some feed to my water instead of buying a bunch of different things like bat guano lol. I also used to use a bit of molasses in my flowering stage as I heard it helps.

Would you say pot size has much to do with yield? I would prefer sticking with a 3 gallon at most since I don't have an outside garden at my place, its hard to get rid of all the soil once the grow is over
 

chuck estevez

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Ah i c. Thats good to hear because I do find it much easier just adding some feed to my water instead of buying a bunch of different things like bat guano lol. I also used to use a bit of molasses in my flowering stage as I heard it helps.

Would you say pot size has much to do with yield? I would prefer sticking with a 3 gallon at most since I don't have an outside garden at my place, its hard to get rid of all the soil once the grow is over
More roots, more fruits. bigger pots= more roots, molasses feeds microbes in organic gardens. Don't waste your time unless your using it in a tea.
 

ScrappyD

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More roots, more fruits. bigger pots= more roots, molasses feeds microbes in organic gardens. Don't waste your time unless your using it in a tea.
Makes complete sense! But carrying 5 gal pots filled with wet soil and a big plant is pretty tiring hahah. I hear coco is pretty light, if I did a bit more research would you suggest coco for a new grower? is it as forgiving as soil grows? From what I remember you need to buy different nutes and the PH must be lower than water for soil...
 

chuck estevez

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Makes complete sense! But carrying 5 gal pots filled with wet soil and a big plant is pretty tiring hahah. I hear coco is pretty light, if I did a bit more research would you suggest coco for a new grower? is it as forgiving as soil grows? From what I remember you need to buy different nutes and the PH must be lower than water for soil...
Again, pro-mix. and why are you carrying wet pots? Get a pump,hose and wand,saucers and take water to the plants
 

tip top toker

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Well I'm talking about start to finish. So germ 2 weeks, veg 6 weeks (i top a couple times so need some heal time), flower 8-10weeks, dry 1-2 weeks. So that equals between 17-20 weeks. Maybe I don't need to Veg for so long?
So am I. Start to finish for me with a range of indica strains was under 3.5 months. each yielded a minimum of 2 ounces, very first time growing any kind of plant, in a tiny closet, with a 400w hps. So as i say, at 4.5-5 months there really shouldnt be any excuse not to hit 4-5 ounces if your setup is anywhere close to suitable.
 

ScrappyD

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Again, pro-mix. and why are you carrying wet pots? Get a pump,hose and wand,saucers and take water to the plants
Oh I've never used a pump, hose and wand before but makes sense. I always use saucers, but I always end up lifting the plants up anyways because the saucers get filled with run off and if I leave it the bottom soil gets saturated. how do you remove the run off from the saucers without moving the plants?
 

chuck estevez

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Oh I've never used a pump, hose and wand before but makes sense. I always use saucers, but I always end up lifting the plants up anyways because the saucers get filled with run off and if I leave it the bottom soil gets saturated. how do you remove the run off from the saucers without moving the plants?
water less, so there is less run off, you just want a trickle.
 

Jussblaz3420

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Organic doesn't come in a bottle, you really have to build a soil to be "organic" go back to last post on 1 st pg and check out the pro-mix link. I use that and jack's classic citrus grow. and that is it. They work very well together. the plant doesn't know organic from synthetic. Just use a small amount every time you water and keep them green. you will see awesome results. You can use the Fox farm trio till it's gone. it works fine.
Funny, u and ben were just bashing me for using fox farms now ur referring it LOL
 

ScrappyD

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So am I. Start to finish for me with a range of indica strains was under 3.5 months. each yielded a minimum of 2 ounces, very first time growing any kind of plant, in a tiny closet, with a 400w hps. So as i say, at 4.5-5 months there really shouldnt be any excuse not to hit 4-5 ounces if your setup is anywhere close to suitable.
Oh wow, ok maybe my timing is off and its not quite 5 months lol. Its been a few years, I may have been over estimating....but if thats the case, I wouldn't mind waiting the 5 months if it'll get me at least 4ozs! But I think you're right that most of the time they should be Indica or at most indica/sativa mix if I want yield.
 
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