how to fight the stretch

Doer

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There's no proof that silica helps either.
I have proof. Why don't you?

http://scialert.net/abstract/?doi=ja.2011.99.104

The effect of Si on rice production was studied under conditions of soil samples containing low concentrations of Si, with addition of 0, 100, 200 and 400 kg Si ha-1. The Si content of the soil samples increased with the increase in the dose of both silicas, causing an increase in grain yield.

My proof is try it. See how floppy a 4 footer can be without it.
 

DirtyMcCurdy

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It's plant food. Hippies made up "newts."

16-16-16
So you run the same amount of N as P and K all the way through? That's would be considered, by most, to be a high amount of N to run through flower as most people tend to lower N and raise P and K. Your NPK ratio just supports what I'm saying
 

DirtyMcCurdy

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I have proof. Why don't you?

http://scialert.net/abstract/?doi=ja.2011.99.104

The effect of Si on rice production was studied under conditions of soil samples containing low concentrations of Si, with addition of 0, 100, 200 and 400 kg Si ha-1. The Si content of the soil samples increased with the increase in the dose of both silicas, causing an increase in grain yield.

My proof is try it. See how floppy a 4 footer can be without it.
That proves nothing. Of course its going to help the plants. Did you forget about the potassium in potassium silicate? Potassium will make your plants stronger. Potassium silicate can supposedly help prevent things like powdery mildew and works as a form of pH up, again because of the potassium. As far as it making your plants stronger? Jury still out, at least in my book anyways.
 

Doer

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So you run the same amount of N as P and K all the way through? That's would be considered, by most, to be a high amount of N to run through flower as most people tend to lower N and raise P and K. Your NPK ratio just supports what I'm saying
All that think I am trying to flower are wrong. That is the point.

This is a bract that we refuse to allow to flower.

And do you know why they withhold N from flowers?



The flowers look like shit. The pedals are too wild growth to be symmetrical.

"that would be considered..." "most tend to..."

Hippy Myth

We specifically want Nitrogen in Bloom since we never allow a flower. See how they have bullshitted everyone?
 
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DirtyMcCurdy

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All that think I am trying to flower are wrong. That is the point.

This is a bract that we refuse to allow to flower.

And do you know why they withhold N from flowers?



The flowers look like shit. The pedals are too wild growth to be symmetrical.

"that would be considered..." "most tend to..."

Hippy Myth

We specifically want Nitrogen in Bloom since we never allow a flower. See how they have bullshitted everyone?
Yes, a lot of bullshit flying around.
 

Doer

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Don't use Silica then, except for insect repellent. One study is nothing.

There are not many published studies of Ganja. Non-essential, is what they thought about Silicon as a human vitamin , at one point. Now we know it is essential, in building bones, though bones are made of calcium. So, as usual, someone grabs a terms and begins to swing it around.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12753977
Although deemed a non-essential nutrient for the majority of plants, the benefits of silicon include increasing pest and pathogen resistance, drought and heavy metal tolerance, and the quality and yield of agricultural crops. Although the pathways and molecular mechanisms by which silicon is absorbed and deposited in plants are still unclear, recent progress has been achieved through the use of rice mutants that are deficient in silicon uptake.

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We know THC is not essential for Cannabis and not linked to survival in a way we understand.

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indicat33

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I always do something in between an LST/Supercrop to combat height problems. Most often, I just "snap" the colas if they gain too much height. I always chose this over raising the Lamp. The resulting plant is full of colas which now grow "horizontally" and as a result, receive more light :-P
 

Doer

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I always do something in between an LST/Supercrop to combat height problems. Most often, I just "snap" the colas if they gain too much height. I always chose this over raising the Lamp. The resulting plant is full of colas which now grow "horizontally" and as a result, receive more light :-P
I have snapped them twice in opposite direction 6-8 inches apart. I fold that and tape it loosely with blue paper tape. Voila, knock backed the height in 1 minute. But the Cola is still vertical.
 

indicat33

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I have snapped them twice in opposite direction 6-8 inches apart. I fold that and tape it loosely with blue paper tape. Voila, knock backed the height in 1 minute. But the Cola is still vertical.
I know they can be stubborn. There's no need for tape. What you do is; you "train" the cola horizontally (daily, at first) using the "snapped" point as your leverage. Re-snap the cola if needed- (I usually have to). Be careful, but if done right, the cola will remain attached (even minimally) to the rest of the branch, and it will continue to thrive. After about a week of daily training, the branches will now only grow horizontally, producing FAT buds, due to the new angle of exposure- Happy Growing :blsmoke:
 
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