How often should organic coco grows be watered?

Armyofsprout

Armyofsprout

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I’m growing In salts watering everyday but I just set up a separate tent using down to earth organic amendments as well to do both organic and non organic grows side by side.

Question is do I water the organic coco daily as well? Or do I let it dry some first before watering again? No one really touches on organic coco grow watering instructions. My watering is automated but I need to just know the frequency. I’m not going to be adding anything special. Just the down to earth amendments in the coco every two weeks top dress and some Epsom salt to the water here and there.
 
crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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coco is sterile as far as i know so thats why i’m gonna add compost to my coco based mix i’m gonna do this run. i think you’d benefit from a healthy living colony with dry amendments. so i got no idea how often you should water havent done this in large scale but testing out this exact mix in small pots and treating like a peat based mix seems to be working for now. have 25-30% ewc some perlite and rest is coco and rock dust, bat guano and manure. plant looks happy.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Armyofsprout said:
I’m growing In salts watering everyday but I just set up a separate tent using down to earth organic amendments as well to do both organic and non organic grows side by side.

Question is do I water the organic coco daily as well? Or do I let it dry some first before watering again? No one really touches on organic coco grow watering instructions. My watering is automated but I need to just know the frequency. I’m not going to be adding anything special. Just the down to earth amendments in the coco every two weeks top dress and some Epsom salt to the water here and there.
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Keep it moist. Organics don't do well when they dry out too much. I prefer peat, but it can be done with coco.
 
Wastei

Wastei

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Armyofsprout said:
Plenty of people successfully use coco with amendments.
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If there's something that's overly represented on here it's people struggling with trying to mix hydro and slow released organic amendments.

Most of them come from the YouTube school of thought. A lot of struggling lost souls following the clown "Mr. Canuck" to a tee. "He's sponsored he must know what he's talking about".
 
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Mr.Head

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I've never had good results with coco in organic, it's one of the reasons I stopped mixing my own soil. I mixed up a whole mess of soil and amendments to have the coco hold too much water and rot my whole mix. I had to dump it on my veggie garden. Not a total waste... but put me behind weeks.

There are definitely people in the organic section here that have had success. I have always mixed my soil in totes and that was more than likely the issue, and open pile of soil probably wouldn't have done that. But I don't have the space for that so just moved on entirely.

Influencers are horrible. People on IG with nearly 40,000 people watching them not be able to grow for shit and give organic gardening a horrible reputation. People that post whole plant shots of what you'd swear was a dead plant but it's just "Flowering" to them. You can't make this shit up. The amount of idiots that literally have no fucking clue what they are doing or how to read a plant are getting sponsorships to pay for their entire catastrophe they call a grow. I would be embarrassed to post the pictures they post yet they are giving talks in hydrostores and going on podcasts to give their "Technique" of how to get a plant to cessation in 3 weeks.

The blind lead the blind. IG and Reddit are filled with growers that want to be told they are doing everything right. They are the people that show up here asking for advice then arguing with everyone about how the advice they asked for is wrong while they admit to not being educated enough to make that distinction. People can grow how they want to grow but there is a "Right way" and a "Wrong way" and that's all dictated by the results. These people regularly have shit results and tell you they do it all "right" fucking crazy.

/rant off been holding that one in for like 2 years. Fuck these clowns.
 
Hollatchaboy

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Armyofsprout said:
Plenty of people successfully use coco with amendments.
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If that were true, then most would do it. You won't find many here on riu that grow organically in coco. Dry organic amendments don't directly feed the plant and require microbes, fungus, insects, and worms to break them down. Coco isn't a great habitat for them to thrive, imo. Peat would be a better environment for them. It's probably the reason most soil company's use peat in their mixes.
 
McShnutz

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Hollatchaboy said:
Not saying it can't be done, just not ideal, imo.
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There's certainly a learning curve with coco, but coco at its core is a carbon just like peat. However the two can not be treated the same. With peat I've learned that a slight dry back of the substrate is healthy for proper CEC. Coco can never dry out, the CEC will get crazy jacked up and plants will burn over night. I use coco for everything... worms, compost tumblers, seedlings, clones and my grow beds. Microbes love it, from my experience.
But I'll be the first to admit, it's not a medium for everyone. And if used organically, should be used by a experienced grower with a firm understanding of plant and soil science.
 
Armyofsprout

Armyofsprout

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McShnutz said:
Yes, going off what my flow monitor displays, about 7-10 gallons / Day. But I'm automated using blumats and have roughly 400 gallons of soil.
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Mr.Head said:
I've never had good results with coco in organic, it's one of the reasons I stopped mixing my own soil. I mixed up a whole mess of soil and amendments to have the coco hold too much water and rot my whole mix. I had to dump it on my veggie garden. Not a total waste... but put me behind weeks.

There are definitely people in the organic section here that have had success. I have always mixed my soil in totes and that was more than likely the issue, and open pile of soil probably wouldn't have done that. But I don't have the space for that so just moved on entirely.

Influencers are horrible. People on IG with nearly 40,000 people watching them not be able to grow for shit and give organic gardening a horrible reputation. People that post whole plant shots of what you'd swear was a dead plant but it's just "Flowering" to them. You can't make this shit up. The amount of idiots that literally have no fucking clue what they are doing or how to read a plant are getting sponsorships to pay for their entire catastrophe they call a grow. I would be embarrassed to post the pictures they post yet they are giving talks in hydrostores and going on podcasts to give their "Technique" of how to get a plant to cessation in 3 weeks.

The blind lead the blind. IG and Reddit are filled with growers that want to be told they are doing everything right. They are the people that show up here asking for advice then arguing with everyone about how the advice they asked for is wrong while they admit to not being educated enough to make that distinction. People can grow how they want to grow but there is a "Right way" and a "Wrong way" and that's all dictated by the results. These people regularly have shit results and tell you they do it all "right" fucking crazy.

/rant off been holding that one in for like 2 years. Fuck these clowns.
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Yeah a lotta people follow Canucks but I’ve even realized he doesn’t know what he’s doing a lot of the time which is why he doesn’t collab with a lot of experienced growers. I’ve pretty much gotten inorganic growing down packed and now I wanna expand to hydro and organic also. I also got my first hydro bucket going as well.
 
Armyofsprout

Armyofsprout

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Jjgrow420 said:
No body touches on it because coco isn't a good medium to use with amendments. Try something like promix or sunshine mix#4
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here are my results with coco and dry amendments and daily watering…
 

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