How much longer?

devolv

Active Member
All pics are at day 67 counting from switch to 12/12
Bubba Express
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Blue Dream
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Blue Dragon
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Green Crack (I think I have two different pheno types your opinions again please!)
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new york diesel

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Sonoma Black Dawg
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The guy I got these from marked them NYDiesel but I'm not buying it. it might be more bubba express but its not following the rest that are in the room. So these are mystery phenos/genetics atm.
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And finally a top view of my garden!!

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This is my 5th (i think) grow. any info is appriciated. if you could comment on why i have so much yellowing i'd also be thankful for that info too.
info on my setup:

4x1000w dual-arc bulbs
flush at each res change to prevent salt buildup
haven't gone over 1300 ppms my nutrient regiment for this flower. each product for their respective periods of use....
recirculating system
hydroton
i use heavy 16 a+b
heavy 16 fire and prime
also yellow bottles ooze, phat, ultra
snowstorm ultra and purple max, gravity, bushmaster
greenfuse
overdrive
bigbud
greatwhite
hygrozyme
canna boost


I'd repost this under problems and what not, but it takes WAY too long to upload all these photos.
again thx in advance!!!
oh and sorry for any blurred pics too
 

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devolv

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Yellowing occurs as the plant nears the end of it's life.
I follow you, but i've had yellowing on my blue dreams since like week 5/6

I also forgot to mention that I had lockout bad in veg. It took me a little over a month to fix it. and even at that I still had some twisted leaves at switch to 12/12. So I was thinking a lot of my earlier yellow/ dying leaves were from those damaged during the lockout.
 

skunkd0c

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your list includes a lot of unnecessary additives, imo i believe this only over complicates things, i also believe your plants would grow just as well if not better without them
all that should be needed is a good quality food, and perhaps if you really have to, a bud pk booster
your plants look nice, its hard to see what is wrong with them, under all that yellow light lol its hard to see how yellow a plant is

my plants stay green to the end, the lower leaves that are below the canopy and get no light will yellow and die
although i normally remove most of them anyway before this happens
it is strain and pheno dependent, some plants will yellow and die more than others from the top, but i find this does not happen very often
and it is only a few leaves right at the end week 9-10

some folk stave plants of nitrogen during flower so the leaves will turn yellow and fall off, they believe by doing this the buds will use up nitrogen stored in them
and it will improve the flavor of the finished bud, other folk think this is shit and like to keep plants fully green to the end believing a fully green plant from start to finish is a healthy plant that shows no signs of deficiency .. i am not sure which camp is right to be honest

give your plants some N if you want them to be green :)
and imo cut out all those additives, just use a good quality food , canna is a good standard
you say you flush at every res change, not sure why or what you mean exactly
a plant can be kept perfectly healthy for many many months with no res changes just top ups of water and food
it is ok to res change every 2 weeks or whatever if it makes you feel better, but again this more work and an unnecessary complication
with the flushing it is disturbing roots ?
this talk of salt build up i dunno about this, i never flush at any time or change res and my plants are healthy from start to finish ..
less is more LOL

peace :)
 

devolv

Active Member
Yellowing occurs as the plant nears the end of it's life.
I follow you, but i've had yellowing on my blue dreams since like week 5/6

I also forgot to mention that I had lockout bad in veg. It took me a little over a month to fix it. and even at that I still had some twisted leaves at switch to 12/12. So I was thinking a lot of my earlier yellow/ dying leaves were from those damaged during the lockout.
 

devolv

Active Member
skunk, by flush i mean running final flush through the system several times, I guess I should call it a rinse instead. lol
 

eDude

Well-Known Member
your list includes a lot of unnecessary additives, imo i believe this only over complicates things, i also believe your plants would grow just as well if not better without them
all that should be needed is a good quality food, and perhaps if you really have to, a bud pk booster
your plants look nice, its hard to see what is wrong with them, under all that yellow light lol its hard to see how yellow a plant is

my plants stay green to the end, the lower leaves that are below the canopy and get no light will yellow and die
although i normally remove most of them anyway before this happens
it is strain and pheno dependent, some plants will yellow and die more than others from the top, but i find this does not happen very often
and it is only a few leaves right at the end week 9-10

some folk stave plants of nitrogen during flower so the leaves will turn yellow and fall off, they believe by doing this the buds will use up nitrogen stored in them
and it will improve the flavor of the finished bud, other folk think this is shit and like to keep plants fully green to the end believing a fully green plant from start to finish is a healthy plant that shows no signs of deficiency .. i am not sure which camp is right to be honest

give your plants some N if you want them to be green :)
and imo cut out all those additives, just use a good quality food , canna is a good standard
you say you flush at every res change, not sure why or what you mean exactly
a plant can be kept perfectly healthy for many many months with no res changes just top ups of water and food
it is ok to res change every 2 weeks or whatever if it makes you feel better, but again this more work and an unnecessary complication
with the flushing it is disturbing roots ?
this talk of salt build up i dunno about this, i never flush at any time or change res and my plants are healthy from start to finish ..
less is more LOL

peace :)
You're right he is hitting them with a lot of stuff but..

Heavy 16 really is a good base nutrient. The fire is the PK booster. I'd drop the yellow bottles.. (those guys are douche bags) Drop all the green triangle stuff. Drop the AN stuff to.

You're doubling up on stuff. You have like three bloom boosters....

KISS Keep It Simple Stoner. Like skunk said simplify and I'm sure you'll do as well if not better for a lot cheaper.
 

itsallinthewrist

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lay back on the nutes, and make sure its not getting to hot in there youve got to have two hids running at least, i see youve got an ac unit but the buds r all beatiful. all solid strain selections. If its just the leaves turning yellow let it mellow lol flush out those harsh hydro nutes. but congrats thats a solid harvest
 

itsallinthewrist

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and all those strains seem to need diff amounts of time in so im confused by your question here 3 for the express and dream maybe 4 the blue looks done maybe a week but it looks very ripe, the crack is technically ripe but you can let it go a week or so, depends on how bad you want it i chopped down an indica lookin prety similiar to that and its hittin strong lol. diesel 2 weeks maybe 3 the black dog looks ready and that one underneath it looks about ready to
 

devolv

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and all those strains seem to need diff amounts of time in so im confused by your question here 3 for the express and dream maybe 4 the blue looks done maybe a week but it looks very ripe, the crack is technically ripe but you can let it go a week or so, depends on how bad you want it i chopped down an indica lookin prety similiar to that and its hittin strong lol. diesel 2 weeks maybe 3 the black dog looks ready and that one underneath it looks about ready to
you answered my question exactly. I realize that I have different genetics and they're going to come to fruition at different times. That's why I was asking others for their opinion. I'm not 100% on letting some of the go longer or not.
 

devolv

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lay back on the nutes, and make sure its not getting to hot in there youve got to have two hids running at least, i see youve got an ac unit but the buds r all beatiful. all solid strain selections. If its just the leaves turning yellow let it mellow lol flush out those harsh hydro nutes. but congrats thats a solid harvest
what do you mean two hids? my a/c can't be seen in the room i have a 5 ton split system thats ducted into the room. the large blue guy in the corner is my dehumidifier. Its a beast dri-eaz LGR 3500i my room stays at 75 during the day and 60 at night.
 
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