how much limeis too much lime??

I've got 5 gallon holes in a swamp filled with 50 - 50 % dirt/ sheep shit the nateral soil is pritty acidic so I'm adding vermiculite,perlite and lime. can anybody give me tips on how much lime I should use. Right now I've got less then 1/4 cup in each hole is this enough??

thanks guys

are you using pelletized or pulverized lime? If you still have the bag, read the label for the mix ratio. I've never applied lime to my compost mix, I've only applied to lawns, so there's a stark difference between the two. Be careful when already applying. I wouldnt give anymore than what you've applied, unless the bag suggests. I know with other fertilizers the bags recommend a certain amount of volume of fert per inch diameter of trunk/stem of the plant. This may hold true with lime, but like I said before, I've never had to use lime to equalize the pH of my potting compost mixture.

is your sheep shite fresh or composted?

the shit is composted I think,it comes in a bag sold at wallmart $2.99 a bag.and the mix ratio with the lime is 10kg per 150 mtr squared.Now the reason I use the lime is that the soil in the swamp I think is acidic it grows pitcher plants wich is a carniverious plant that only grows in high acidic soil.I was hoping that the lime would leach into the ground surrounding the holes to hive the roots a little more room to grow and nutrilize the water that seeps up from the ground.Oh ya the lime is pulverizied. Sorry guys I'm just wakin up just got off nights lol if none of this makes sence

I know I read that it is difficult to overdo lime as it is fairly neutral in pH and after a certain point of adding it, it just doesn't have any further impact on pH - can't remember the source though... but I think you can apply it very liberally. Good source of calcium as well.

This has a rough estimate for amount (although based on soil commonly found in the Northwest) that might be useful:



"Vegetable gardens: Vegetables produce the best crops at soil pH between 6.0-7.0. Vegetable gardeners do need to add lime to their soils because these pH levels are seldom naturally present in the maritime Northwest. The exact amount of lime to add depends on the pH of the soil. A rough estimate for a garden that hasn't been previously limed would be: per 100 square feet of garden: sandy soil, 4 pounds every 2 years; loamy soil, 6 pounds every 2 years; clay soil, 8 pounds every 3 years. Dolomite lime is most often used because it supplies magnesium as well as calcium. Add it in late fall after crops are harvested to prepare soil for planting the following spring."



Found this info too:

"Wait a minimum of 30 days before adding fertilizer. Lime and nitrogen counteract each other. They neutralize the other one and actually turn into ammonia. The basic meaning is: all the money you just spent on lime and fertilizer was a big giant waste. That’s why we lime in the fall and wait until spring for the first fertilizer application. The years we lime the lawn, we skip the fall & winter fertilizing. Plants, just like us, don't like living in ammonia.

Wait until spring to fertilize and do so according to the package instructions."

wow that was crazy helpful but I hope its wrong about the amonia part cause I already used it in conjuction with the fertz.After I dig and fill the holes one one trip I come back with the vermiculite perlite heavy harvest spring blend time release fertalizer lime and the plants and finish em off.I did this last year and all was fine so I hope this year works out well too.

well thanks guys and I hope you all have a great season

Yeah I don't know - I added lime to the inside of some of the holes I dug this year before I filled them with my soil mix as some of them are in a seasonally swampy area. They are doing fine so far despite fertilizer use. By the way, I use a granular time-release fertilizer as well.

Hopefully someone with more experience can chime in. But if the ammonia thing worries you, maybe lime after digging your holes but before adding your planting mix+plant. That should give them a bit of a buffer without directly impacting the main root mass.

TTT said:

wow that was crazy helpful but I hope its wrong about the amonia part cause I already used it in conjuction with the fertz.After I dig and fill the holes one one trip I come back with the vermiculite perlite heavy harvest spring blend time release fertalizer lime and the plants and finish em off.I did this last year and all was fine so I hope this year works out well too.

well thanks guys and I hope you all have a great season

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how big did you dig your holes before planting into the ground?
You can cultivate around the hole that you planted in to create a larger buffer area and condition the surrounding soil. Example: if you dug your hole about the size of a 3-5 gallon pot, just dig further around the circumference of that hole and cultivate some peat moss, vermiculite/perlite, lime...
I also love using "M-Roots" 2-2-2 fert. This shit is the bomb when transplanting. It's a mycrorysal(sp?) fert with beneficial bacteria that aids in the faster root establishment of transplanted plants. Bigger root mass=bigger plants!
Hope this helps TT...and good luck too this season! Keep us posted!

thats a great idea but we dont actually dig lol were kinda lazy. Well where were at is in a swamp that the watter line is just below the soil kinda like a bog.So even the first shouvel scoop fills back in with water ya know what i mean? So digging is not an option as we found out the first year cause all you get is root rot and death and alot of messed up plants.Now we just clear the ground debris and chop and hack the ground kinda turn the soil and break up existing roots (we dont want to be feeding the narbourhood plants) then dump the bags and mix em up with the lime, ver, and per, and the fertz and bam we neaver have to water for the whole summer and we get awesome yealds

life is great when your fishing life sucks when ya gotta carry water buckets hahahahaha

and Sable how do you find the time realease fertz and what kind do you use?

have a great green summer guys

Is lime good or bad? The water here is supper hard... Lots of lime leaves a ring everywhere.
I've been just using my sprinkler to water my plants, is this bad? They look alright.

TTT said:

thats a great idea but we dont actually dig lol were kinda lazy. Well where were at is in a swamp that the watter line is just below the soil kinda like a bog.So even the first shouvel scoop fills back in with water ya know what i mean? So digging is not an option as we found out the first year cause all you get is root rot and death and alot of messed up plants.Now we just clear the ground debris and chop and hack the ground kinda turn the soil and break up existing roots (we dont want to be feeding the narbourhood plants) then dump the bags and mix em up with the lime, ver, and per, and the fertz and bam we neaver have to water for the whole summer and we get awesome yealds

life is great when your fishing life sucks when ya gotta carry water buckets hahahahaha

and Sable how do you find the time realease fertz and what kind do you use?

have a great green summer guys

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Yo TTT...those plants from last year's grow are gnarly huge brah! I now can see that you guys know what you're doin'. Hope I can sample some of your harvest!

lol jonboy look me up in the fall

and outtaluck the lime is used as a PH buffer if you see they look fine they are probably fine the plants will tell you loud and clear if your doing something wrong just becareful with the fertzbetter to be light then too much

good luck


T.

TTT said:

and Sable how do you find the time realease fertz and what kind do you use?

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This is what is use:

http://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/productTemplate.jsp?tabs=general&proId=prod140020&itemId=cat50116&id=cat50020

Haven't had any problems with burning. I look at it more like I'm just supplementing what's already there as opposed to feeding my plant nutrients - so I don't use much. I've used the older 'original' Osmocote as well with no problems. Oh and I think I got it at one of the home improvement chains.

I have a question, I have grown a few really good plants then I started having a problem. My last 5 plants have looked great, big buds smells good but when harvest time comes , no potiency. I'm growing White Widow seeds I bought from a good supplier,I use Miracle gro potting soil, some manure, a hand full of powdered lime and perlite in a 3 gallon container. I grow in a 3x4 well ventilated closet with a 400 hps light. I water when the soil is crusty on top, I use distiled water. No potiency, and I have buds the size of my forearm, what am I doing wrong, what should I be checking.

lime takes a while to break down ,bit slow ,need to putit in couple months before planting and dont be shy, try two cups.

new .g ,just a shitty strain. keep getting new ones and u will find a good one. and try not hijack other peoples threads.