how important is air?

newworldicon said:

You may want to try a CO2 bucket before you spend the cash on a bottle and regulator kit...see if you really can maximise the addition but to be honest it sounds like you still need to refine and hone your other environmental factors before even considering co2. I'd focus on getting the basics right before adding bells and whistles.

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thanks for the honesty, man.

um, a 4ft plant w/4 weeks veg should yield around 1.5 - 3 oz dry under his set-up. Has anybody told him maybe is expectations are to high?

genuity said:

need some pics of them plants man.....

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here are a few:

thats the last pics of the cheese.

Nubby Tubbs said:

thanks for the honesty, man.

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No probs, that would help you more than the suggestions surrounding co2.

heres a look inside my tent now. uneven canopy, yes. im trying to have constant rotation of bud.

Nubby Tubbs said:

heres a look inside my tent now. uneven canopy, yes. im trying to have constant rotation of bud.
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Is this from seed?

the bigger ones (and ones u cant see in the back) are from seeds. the smaller ones in the 2&1 gal. pots are clones of the seeds.

other than a lil leaf burn,id say overall they look good,only thing i could think of would be more light,or more smaller plants.

Nubby Tubbs said:

the bigger ones (and ones u cant see in the back) are from seeds. the smaller ones in the 2&1 gal. pots are clones of the seeds.

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yea once you get that canopy even,things will get alot better.

i should mention thats the best of my plants... i have a kush thats shorter yielding nothing... youre right... its gotta be the light.

what if i put the tall ones to the side and dropped the light over the shorter ones? i mean the top of the big SSH isnt getting light even tho i bent it.....

go easy on the fox farms because it will burn them if you follow the directions
can you list the NPK of your nutrients ?
PPM meters are cheap now (40$)
you may want to aggressively top that SSH.

ClamDigger said:

go easy on the fox farms because it will burn them if you follow the directions
can you list the NPK of your nutrients ?
PPM meters are cheap now (40$)
you may want to aggressively top that SSH.

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the NPK of what i use: (when i use what depends on the schedule)

big bloom .01-.3-.7
tiger bloom 2-8-4
grow big 6-4-4
cal mag 2-0-0
hydroplex 0-10-6
cha ching 9-50-10
beastie bloomz 0-50-30
open sesame 5-45-19
microbe brew 1-.2-.03

i have a pH/ppm combo meter, and always pH to 6.2 and never exceed 1400 ppm on my biggest plants (less on smaller ones).

are u sure i should top the super silver in week 8?

Nubby Tubbs said:

the NPK of what i use: (when i use what depends on the schedule)

big bloom .01-.3-.7
tiger bloom 2-8-4
grow big 6-4-4
cal mag 2-0-0
hydroplex 0-10-6
cha ching 9-50-10
beastie bloomz 0-50-30
open sesame 5-45-19
microbe brew 1-.2-.03

i have a pH/ppm combo meter, and always pH to 6.2 and never exceed 1400 ppm on my biggest plants (less on smaller ones).

are u sure i should top the super silver in week 8?

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jus bend the ssh over,start with an even canopy an you will be in better shape.

Well I'm certainly no expert but I will add this with confidence. Yes air is important. For one thing having air circulating around a plant or even straight at it helps the plant to develope stronger stalks it just makes a healthier plant overall. That's my take on it. I added a 120 mm 12 v shit fan and I saw a big difference. But I'm not sure if that's your case. I think 1000 watts in a 4x4 tent seems a little much. What was the temp.inside the tent? Too much light is really bad for plants.

hmmmmm, let me think. you die without it. YES

wait wait wait how can too much light be bad for plants?

http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/farabee/biobk/biobookps.html Giving a plant more light than it can use is and can be harmful. For one way you will bleach out the leaves. That will make them useless. Without a healthy leaf system the plant can't photosynthesize.