x4buried2alive0x
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Yeah im thinking about going through with that one. Im gonna use it in a 6x4x4 space. Did you get one of the agrostars? What bulbs you gonna run in it?
p.s. where you at snappy, im trying to see that box!
How I bullt my Grow Box-Step by step
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p.s. where you at snappy, im trying to see that box!
jact55
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Yeah im thinking about going through with that one. Im gonna use it in a 6x4x4 space. Did you get one of the agrostars? What bulbs you gonna run in it?
p.s. where you at snappy, im trying to see that box!
heres a link http://cgi.ebay.com/400-watt-HPS-GROW-LIGHT-400w-System-Hydroponic-sun-lamp_W0QQitemZ400036043201QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5d240199c1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|240%3A1308|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50 , i am going to use the bulb that comes with it for now. i am going to use it on a 3.5x3.5x6 box. i just posted a thread about ventilation, if you know anything about that.
x4buried2alive0x
Member
Oh nice, so your growing hydro? With that 400w hps/mh ballast, i can run any 400w hps and any 400w mh conversion bulb right?
jact55
Well-Known Member
no, soil. it is just advertised as a hydroponic lamp. it is the same as any lamp.
the ballast i am getting is strictly a hps ballast. i believe you can get conversion bulbs, this would be a mh that works for a hps ballast, and vice versus. you can also get a conversion ballast, so you can run either bulb. I believe that the conversion ballast is the best way to go, imo. the conversion bulbs are pricy. and with the ballast, you can choose whatever bulb you want
the ballast i am getting is strictly a hps ballast. i believe you can get conversion bulbs, this would be a mh that works for a hps ballast, and vice versus. you can also get a conversion ballast, so you can run either bulb. I believe that the conversion ballast is the best way to go, imo. the conversion bulbs are pricy. and with the ballast, you can choose whatever bulb you want
snappy
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So the inlet is on the bottom and the exhaust is on the top. Do you have anything covering the inlet to eliminate dust and what not. Even though this is the construction phase, it looks like the inlet has no covering or anything. Is this right?
Yes there is a covering not your conventional one but you'll see.
snappy
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No Worries I believe Knowledge is the only gift that
GROWS when it is Shared
... You're only making us all better. Thank you
snappy
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Dude you and I will find out together I guess since I am learning as I go, as for the math Questions I would rather admit that I dont know and ask if what I am doing will work...
and there were so many replies motivating me to go ahead and take the intake fan OFF alltogether, that's what I did last night. now I just have the 4" exaust. hope it works.maybe the mathematically inclined out there can help us figure it out.
my box is 2x2x4 the exaust fan is 4" and the hole where the intake fan was is 6". can someone help??
snappy
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OK Buried,p.s. where you at snappy, im trying to see that box!
thank you for your attention and patience. here we
GROWagain.
tom__420
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you can multi quote instead of posting a whole bunch of times in a row answering questions. Hit multi on each post that you want to quote and on the last one hit quote and there you go. You will have a post with a bunch of quoted posts. It makes it a lot easier to answer questions
x4buried2alive0x
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Yeah i got the reply skoad. It was jact and i understand what your doing j but at the end of my post i was askin..with the conversion ballest that im getting being a 400w, i was just trying to make sure i could run ANY 400w mh/hps bulb.
snappy
Active Member
Ok where did we leave of?? Oh yeah!
Once the fans were ok I placed the door with 3 hinges and Placed a Doorknob <-- why not!!
after this I am so anal that I wanted to see how much light was coming in the box with the door closed so that I could cover the leaks and since I am small enough that I fit inside the box and see how much light comes in that's what I did and sure enough there was an awful amount of light so I decided to make a "Gasket" with Newspaper and Duct tape if you feel this will work for you - go easy on the paper - you want a soft cushion, I had to take some of of this picture door wouldn't close.
once the door was done, I wanted to seal of all of the edges to block the light.
ALL THE EDGES.
A Fresh Coat of Paint Never Hurt and it made the box lookBitchin!
If you are going to paint make sure that the INSIDE gets at least 2 coats of Flat White Paint Flat white paint has the ability to reflect between 75-85% of the light, and does not create hotspots.
To keep light/dust out I used the boxes the fans came in, I Saw this on YOUTUBE tell me if you guys think it will work
INTAKE.
OUT
That seems to be it. this is what My Box Looks Like... just picture it without the Intake fan (for Negative PreSSure).
The Ballast is 400W Conversion, the bulb that is on is 400W HPS, I also have a 400W MH for next crop's Veg stage .
You Like???
Kicks Ass HUH???
As for the Crop...
This is the lady that I had waiting for her new Home (Purple Kush Clone I've had her5 weeks Now) she's inside a Phototron with 6 long tubes and the 2 on top hanging.
But like I said I went to the THC Expo and a Very experienced Grower (2009 Valedictorian at Oaksterdam University LA Branch) advised me that 400W HPS for 1(ONE) plant was a LOT OF POWER, He thought that the light bill - compared to the crop produced by a single plant was not worth the expense.
He said I should just bloom this one on CFLs and when I have 2 or more then I should take advantage of the Ballast.
So I took the light out of the box and placed the phototron inside the box and Finally Turned Off the lights (12/12).
so there you go, I'll post a picture of what the phototron looks like inside the box and post it with the "Items List" tonight -PROMISE!!
Maybe I can keep this Thread going trough the CFL Bloom/Harvest (I'm Planing to use the box as a Curing station as well) all the way to Finally Using My Ballast. Looks Like a Long time away from now but I'm sure it will fly by..
Questions, Thoughts, Comments???
Once the fans were ok I placed the door with 3 hinges and Placed a Doorknob <-- why not!!
after this I am so anal that I wanted to see how much light was coming in the box with the door closed so that I could cover the leaks and since I am small enough that I fit inside the box and see how much light comes in that's what I did and sure enough there was an awful amount of light so I decided to make a "Gasket" with Newspaper and Duct tape if you feel this will work for you - go easy on the paper - you want a soft cushion, I had to take some of of this picture door wouldn't close.
once the door was done, I wanted to seal of all of the edges to block the light.
ALL THE EDGES.
A Fresh Coat of Paint Never Hurt and it made the box look
Bitchin!
If you are going to paint make sure that the INSIDE gets at least 2 coats of Flat White Paint Flat white paint has the ability to reflect between 75-85% of the light, and does not create hotspots.
To keep light/dust out I used the boxes the fans came in, I Saw this on YOUTUBE tell me if you guys think it will work
INTAKE.
OUT
That seems to be it. this is what My Box Looks Like... just picture it without the Intake fan (for Negative PreSSure).
The Ballast is 400W Conversion, the bulb that is on is 400W HPS, I also have a 400W MH for next crop's Veg stage .
You Like???
Kicks Ass HUH???As for the Crop...
This is the lady that I had waiting for her new Home (Purple Kush Clone I've had her5 weeks Now) she's inside a Phototron with 6 long tubes and the 2 on top hanging.
But like I said I went to the THC Expo and a Very experienced Grower (2009 Valedictorian at Oaksterdam University LA Branch) advised me that 400W HPS for 1(ONE) plant was a LOT OF POWER, He thought that the light bill - compared to the crop produced by a single plant was not worth the expense.
He said I should just bloom this one on CFLs and when I have 2 or more then I should take advantage of the Ballast.
So I took the light out of the box and placed the phototron inside the box and Finally Turned Off the lights (12/12).
so there you go, I'll post a picture of what the phototron looks like inside the box and post it with the "Items List" tonight -PROMISE!!
Maybe I can keep this Thread going trough the CFL Bloom/Harvest (I'm Planing to use the box as a Curing station as well) all the way to Finally Using My Ballast. Looks Like a Long time away from now but I'm sure it will fly by..
Questions, Thoughts, Comments???
tom__420
Well-Known Member
Those light traps don't look like they will do anything to keep the light out. I would revise that because they seem like they will be letting in a lot of light during the dark period. You can also get some weather stripping to put around where the door meets the box to create a nice tight seal when it is shut.
snappy
Active Member
Please Do and let us know how it goes and how you improved it!
You're a Genious
That's what I did... there's still a bit of light for about 2 hours that tried to creep in so I placed it in a Corner and made the whole face Down, after the sun goes down there is NONE coming in - I've been inside I KNOW!!! LOL, I also added some more paper to the Exaust since that was letting a bit too much for my taste.First of all
Thanks TOM for the Multi Quote advice as you can see it helped a lot!! Another great sugestion. I actually used Velcro with the cushion of the paper/tape/velcro perfect seal
-- final pictures tonight --Still at workkiss-assLOL!!!Thank you again, either way will be used one day.
Smokin24/7
Member
Nice thread. I am new to the forum, and will be keeping an eye on this one.
x4buried2alive0x
Member
Snappy, one ques. is what about mylar instead of white paint? Or are both just as good? Im thinking about making an identical box to yours, although i think mine will be 3x3x6 or 3.5x3.5x6. I would like to be able to grow 4-6 plants in it through the whole growing process. I have chosen a 400w conversion ballast from htg http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=45667. Which has a good seal to help protect from dust, low heat, and going off that i might just create an intake hole and only use a fan for exhaust. Im still new at this and it takes a little bit for everything to make sense, but i think im starting to figure things out.