How does someone produce a male plant without producing a Herm.

GelenaAK420

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If one does not want to grow 20 some plants in hope of having at least one male.......what can one do?
I don't want to stress a plant because I have read that it will produce Herms, and pollinating another female with the pollen from a Herm will only produce Herm plants. I don't want that, I would like to know if there is a way to create a real full blown male......?...... I have heard about liquid silver.....?????... or planting your newly sprouted seedling in a short 2"cup.......?...... I even read some freak swears up and down that you water your seedlings with urine from a pregnant woman.....SICK BASTARDs out in the world :lol: So if anyone has any answers, please let me know. Thank you
 

tyke1973

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regular seeds,not seeds found in bud that you buy of someone because 99.9 % of the time these have seeded through been stressed and will carry the hermie traits over to the seeds.

You want seeds of a female that has been hit by a male
 

GelenaAK420

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if you don't know where male plants come from, breeding, or making seeds, is about the last thing you should be concerned with imo..
Totally got me confused bro....... All the seeds are from breeder (far away by mail order) and all seeds (regular, not feminized, all the same strain) are just now showing signs of becoming females. I simply want to produce seeds from this same strain......?..... Do you know where I can read up / research on this particular subject? I live where we receive mail only three times a month and frowned upon when receiving packages from overseas. It's not as easy to go stealth here as it may in your country. If Mother Nature can do it, I am hoping that we have discovered a similar way. I have read different articles concerning the making and using Colloidal Silver, but not very clear on instructing step by step procedures "when" to apply nor what your finale traits will be. :leaf:
 

GroErr

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Grow out enough regular seeds of a strain you want to collect pollen from and you'll get a male. Take the pollen and paint it on the flowering buds of the target female at about 3 weeks into 12/12 (once you have pistils showing). Flower that female for another 5-6 weeks and you'll end up with seeds. You can later look up how to create female seeds but since you haven't done this yet, follow the above and get some regular seeds, move on from there.
 

GelenaAK420

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Grow out enough regular seeds of a strain you want to collect pollen from and you'll get a male. Take the pollen and paint it on the flowering buds of the target female at about 3 weeks into 12/12 (once you have pistils showing). Flower that female for another 5-6 weeks and you'll end up with seeds. You can later look up how to create female seeds but since you haven't done this yet, follow the above and get some regular seeds, move on from there.
OK, thank you Sir for your input, But like what my question is asking and is there a method on
"How does someone produce a male plant without producing a Herm."
 

GroErr

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OK, thank you Sir for your input, But like what my question is asking and is there a method on
"How does someone produce a male plant without producing a Herm."
Well, imo, there is no guarantee with herms, if the genetics line of the plant is prone to hermies or you induce it through stress, you will get a hemie. So in effect my initial answer holds, there are no guarantees, you can mange the environment as well as you like but if a line is hermie-prone there's not a lot you can do about it. Last year stopped growing an old line of Blueberry I had for years due to its hermie prone genetics.
 

GelenaAK420

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Well, imo, there is no guarantee with herms, if the genetics line of the plant is prone to hermies or you induce it through stress, you will get a hemie. So in effect my initial answer holds, there are no guarantees, you can mange the environment as well as you like but if a line is hermie-prone there's not a lot you can do about it. Last year stopped growing an old line of Blueberry I had for years due to its hermie prone genetics.
Cool, but like I mentioned in my posts, they all are just now showing female signs (hoping that none will turn Herm).I totally agree on your statement concerning a plant passing on its' herm genetic traits. I know one can accidentally stress a plant for what ever reason and create a Herm. I am inquiring if anyone is familiar with the process of using liquid silver to create a male sacks, since we are hoping and maybe wishful thinking, trying to create a male from what we already have to work with. :weed:
 

GelenaAK420

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Op if u don't mind me asking where do u live that only gets mail 3 times a month?? Just curious
Yes, of course : Galena Alaska, where our nights are long as our winters, but hey....it pays the bills....kind of :roll: I take that back, I could receive my mail more often but I choose to what I have now because I guess you might want to say I am a bit lazy and don't want to go down and go through all the red tape. So, I really choose this my self. They are all really good people here.
 

AllenHaze

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Follow me and I will show you something...:eyesmoke: Sex is predetermined at conception. "Sexual expression" or reproductive commitment however, is determined majorly by the environment. By tweaking the environment you can make cannabis feel like one sex would be more beneficial over another sexual expression hence the term reproductive commitment-that is what it is all about am I right? :hump: Environments rich in N, Blue spectrum light, shorter daylight hours, high humidity, cooler temperatures, plenty of room for vertical root growth and low in potassium and stress will allow for an easier female expression. For males you want the opposite with: Longer daylight hours, red spectrum light, higher potassium, lower humidity, higher temperatures, lower N. Good luck :peace:
 

GelenaAK420

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Follow me and I will show you something...:eyesmoke: Sex is predetermined at conception. "Sexual expression" or reproductive commitment however, is determined majorly by the environment. By tweaking the environment you can make cannabis feel like one sex would be more beneficial over another sexual expression hence the term reproductive commitment-that is what it is all about am I right? :hump: Environments rich in N, Blue spectrum light, shorter daylight hours, high humidity, cooler temperatures, plenty of room for vertical root growth and low in potassium and stress will allow for an easier female expression. For males you want the opposite with: Longer daylight hours, red spectrum light, higher potassium, lower humidity, higher temperatures, lower N. Good luck :peace:
WOW ! .... interesting, and I must say....you have a very valid point. I guess that's how it might be played out by Mother Nature.:leaf:
 

GroErr

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Follow me and I will show you something...:eyesmoke: Sex is predetermined at conception. "Sexual expression" or reproductive commitment however, is determined majorly by the environment. By tweaking the environment you can make cannabis feel like one sex would be more beneficial over another sexual expression hence the term reproductive commitment-that is what it is all about am I right? :hump: Environments rich in N, Blue spectrum light, shorter daylight hours, high humidity, cooler temperatures, plenty of room for vertical root growth and low in potassium and stress will allow for an easier female expression. For males you want the opposite with: Longer daylight hours, red spectrum light, higher potassium, lower humidity, higher temperatures, lower N. Good luck :peace:
It's an interesting theory, and one that makes sense (logical), but would be difficult and take a long time to prove out. From any research I've done, the only time I've ever seen any of this in any form of paper (aka controlled study) was suggesting that reds early on in the life cycle MAY have some affect sexual expression, they weren't even sure enough to state it though nor did they carry on the study to prove out the theory. Have you found any concrete evidence of this? I'm not a nay sayer, it makes sense, I just don't like to depend on heresy or opinions, particularly for something like this.
 

AllenHaze

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Understood, it is a controversial subject but let's not forget that most people that grow aren't interested or capable of understanding the science behind the green so common misconceptions are common. It's a part of Cannabis botany and is referenced in several different grow bibles to date. There are many citations listed across the spectrum as well. Context is everything remember, if a strain of cannabis has a higher tendency towards male expression it may be more difficult to "awaken" or "coax" the appropriate genes necessary for female expression. Nothing is ever 100%. :peace:
 
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