How do I get to heaven? Answers to your questions on eternal life.

Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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schuylaar said:
And why do you think that is?..i've noticed this long ago..it's always the bible beater/GOP type/church going delusional..that commits the MOST heinous crimes.

Perhaps Old Growth can explain this to us "sinners"..um and NO scripture please..your own words..do you dare?
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Religious people think god gives them this;



So, some justify behaving like a fucking heathen because they 'know' they can just ask for forgiveness and get a pass. I mean, who cares what people on earth think of you? Homicidal maniac? Pedophile? Rapist? No problem! God loves all of his children, as long as they repent! It's what god thinks of you that counts; and as long as you ask for forgiveness you can do whatever the fuck you want!
 
NietzscheKeen

NietzscheKeen

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schuylaar said:
And why do you think that is?..i've noticed this long ago..it's always the bible beater/GOP type/church going delusional..that commits the MOST heinous crimes.

Perhaps Old Growth can explain this to us "sinners"..um and NO scripture please..your own words..do you dare?
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I wasn't even thinking of "heinous crimes" but even the most petty. Heinous crimes are too banal and cliché; they've been discussed and dragged around enough already.

I have noticed much of an "end justifies the means" type of mentality in most religious people. I don't know if this is the root of it, but it's a good place to start looking.
 
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schuylaar

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NietzscheKeen said:
I wasn't even thinking of "heinous crimes" but even the most petty. Heinous crimes are too banal and cliché; they've been discussed and dragged around enough already.

I have noticed much of an "end justifies the means" type of mentality in most religious people. I don't know if this is the root of it, but it's a good place to start looking.
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End justifies the means..for example? Pretty sad when a group of religious zealots can be identified through acts of "heinous crimes" and its like "pffffft, we already know that"!!!
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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Beefbisquit said:
Religious people think god gives them this;



So, some justify behaving like a fucking heathen because they 'know' they can just ask for forgiveness and get a pass. I mean, who cares what people on earth think of you? Homicidal maniac? Pegophile? Rapist? No problem! God loves all of his children, as long as they repent! It's what god thinks of you that counts; and as long as you ask for forgiveness you can do whatever the fuck you want!
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I hate those fuckin' pegophiles! My pegs are so scared these days that some of them won't come out of hiding and I can't play my game ;)


 
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Kervork

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Wow... such a primative religion christianity is. Almost like it was invented in the dark ages.

My religion is far better. God loves me because I am. I need no redemption. I break none of gods laws because my god made laws which cannot be broken.
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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i believe i have sinned and a god is punishing me , how do i get into heaven and how do i make things right between my daughter an god
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OldGrowth420

OldGrowth420

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ThE sAtivA higH
To be made right with God simply read this verse and do as it commands, Here is a prayer line you can call to confess with your mouth that you believe in Jesus 1-888-731-1000.

[h=3]Romans 10:9-10[/h]New American Standard Bible (NASB)

[SUP]9 [/SUP][SUP][a][/SUP]that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; [SUP]10 [/SUP]for with the heart a person believes, [SUP][b][/SUP]resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, [SUP][c][/SUP]resulting in salvation.


My back is hurting pretty bad so i'm not going to attempt to respond to all of these responses at this time.

To BeefBisquit

There are aspects of many things that i do not necessarily like, or agree with.. But in the end i must accept them and choose to do what is right and live my life anyway.
The same is true with God and His Word. Not everything He says makes me feel warm and fuzzy, but i do what He says because He is God and He gave me everything and is my one true Judge.
The Bible says fear God, and I can tell you from personal experience and God's punishments and afflictions in my own life that there is good reason for that. But I know God does this to keep me in line, because He cares for me.

My back is just killing me, i will try to come back asap to give better responses to all of this.
I ask that you would keep this thread clean, some of these posts are really offensive.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Belief isn't a conscious choice, how do you explain that?

You seem to think one simply chooses to believe or not to believe, those that do get saved, those that don't be damned. Except, I never chose not to believe. It's simply a result of the consequences of the experiences I've had in my life and the knowledge I've gained. To fault me for that would be no different than for being right handed, white skinned or green eyed.. This is something I have no control over, no say whatsoever. The irony is, the god religious people claim to believe in would never hold someone at fault for a simple result of circumstances. It wouldn't be capable of it, let alone be capable of the horrible alternative to blind acceptance [Hell].. These people are taught a different kind of reality, in which you certainly can be sent to hell by a just and righteous god, even though none of that bullshit makes any sense when you apply the strict rules of logic that dictate the reality we occupy. The world they live in doesn't hinge on the rules of reality. It's tough to put yourself in that kind of mindframe..
 
OldGrowth420

OldGrowth420

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All you need to do is try your best to believe. Choose to believe the way you choose to love someone. Belief isn't just a feeling, it's a choice.
 
OldGrowth420

OldGrowth420

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ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:
i believe i have sinned and a god is punishing me , how do i get into heaven and how do i make things right between my daughter an god
?
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The only way things can be made right between your daughter and God is for her to choose to believe in Christ. Read the Gospel of John with her and educate her in the truth of Christ, take her to church and take her to Sunday school where she can get a good solid foundation in Christ. Then you wont have to worry about where she will end up.

Your punishment may not end right away, be patient, and do your best to live right and forsake your sins. God is pruning you so that you will live a righteous life and produce fruit for Him.
 
OldGrowth420

OldGrowth420

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Beefbisquit said:
Religious people think god gives them this;



So, some justify behaving like a heathen because they 'know' they can just ask for forgiveness and get a pass. I mean, who cares what people on earth think of you? Homicidal maniac? Pedophile? Rapist? No problem! God loves all of his children, as long as they repent! It's what god thinks of you that counts; and as long as you ask for forgiveness you can do whatever you want!
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It's not just about asking for forgiveness, it's about turning from your sins.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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OldGrowth420 said:
All you need to do is try your best to believe. Choose to believe the way you choose to love someone. Belief isn't just a feeling, it's a choice.
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I'm afraid you don't seem to understand..

There is no way to "try your best to believe".. you simply do or don't, there is no try.

Also, you do not "choose" to love someone. Go ahead, try right now, can you love me? If you can, you're confused about what love is, because I can assure you, you can't. If love was a choice, there would be a hell of a lot less heartache than there is..

Belief is in no way a choice, you view the evidence of said claim, and using your own knowledge and experience accept it or reject it, there is no conscious choice in the matter at any time. It either convinces you or it doesn't. In the exact same way you either hear sound or you don't, see light or you don't, feel heat or cold or you don't.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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OldGrowth420 said:
ThE sAtivA higH
To be made right with God simply read this verse and do as it commands, Here is a prayer line you can call to confess with your mouth that you believe in Jesus 1-888-731-1000.
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Have your credit card ready, there may be a soft donation pitch after they 'save' you...
My back is hurting pretty bad so i'm not going to attempt to respond to all of these responses at this time.

To BeefBisquit

There are aspects of many things that i do not necessarily like, or agree with.. But in the end i must accept them and choose to do what is right and live my life anyway.
The same is true with God and His Word. Not everything He says makes me feel warm and fuzzy, but i do what He says because He is God and He gave me everything and is my one true Judge.
The Bible says fear God, and I can tell you from personal experience and God's punishments and afflictions in my own life that there is good reason for that. But I know God does this to keep me in line, because He cares for me.

My back is just killing me, i will try to come back asap to give better responses to all of this.
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Can't you simply pray the pain away? If not, is the pain keeping you on the right path? If your prayer is ineffective on your own, remember the number above, 1-888-731-1000.

"And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive." (Matthew 21:22)

"Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them." (Mark 11:24)
"And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it." (John 14:13-14)

"And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you." (John 16:23)
I ask that you would keep this thread clean, some of these posts are really offensive.
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On a public forum? Get outta here...
 
OldGrowth420

OldGrowth420

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Not all prayers are God's will. I got drunk at the bar when i was underage, stepped onto the roof of a storm shelter, it opened up.. I fell in. Hit my back on a metal lip, now my pain reminds me not to do stupid stuff. I deserve it.

My prayers seemed to have helped my back pain immensely.
They certainly have helped repair my mind.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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OldGrowth420 said:
Not all prayers are God's will.
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No, only the one's that are in his name. So says the scripture I posted. SCRIPTURE! Can't argue with that, and if we can, you're in trouble...

I got drunk at the bar when i was underage, stepped onto the roof of a storm shelter, it opened up.. I fell in. Hit my back on a metal lip, now my pain reminds me not to do stupid stuff. I deserve it.
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Sorry to hear about that. You were just being a kid, kid's do stupid things (god made them that way, no?). I don't think you deserve that, but deserve has got nothing to do with it....

My prayers seemed to have helped my back pain immensely. They certainly have helped repair my mind.
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I doubt that's true...
 
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schuylaar

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OldGrowth420 said:
Show me the data, then we'll talk.

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OG it's called experience..

I grew up in a VERY Catholic family, church on Wednesday AND Saturday AND Sunday..huge family get together along with which ever Father precided over Mass that Sunday..we ALL went to parochial school through high school..

They are the most ugly, hippocrital, twisted and downright sick people you'll ever come across.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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OldGrowth420 said:
Re-iterating.
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The prophecy in the Harry Potter also came true. This has already been explained to you last time you splooged this shit on the forums. Pay attention this time, I'll make it easier for you to read.

You cannot use the bible to prove the bible.
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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mindphuk said:
The prophecy in the Harry Potter also came true. This has already been explained to you last time you splooged this shit on the forums. Pay attention this time, I'll make it easier for you to read.

You cannot use the bible to prove the bible.
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He needs pictures, me thinks....

 
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