How can I add liquidkool bloom and floralicious plus to nutrients without giving nutrient burn?

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Scandalous08

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Hello all I am using flora trio as my base nutrients with some cal mag, hydroguard and cannazyme in a 2 plant(skywalker OG femenized photos) 17 gal DWC reservoir. This is my first ever grow and I’m growing in a 4x4 tent using 2 HLG 260W XL with a uva 30 bar in the middle of them. Reservoir temps are pretty steady at 65-67 degrees with ambient air temperature around 68 with lights on. RH just above the reservoir is 55 and above the canopy is 57. Will post some pictures for you below. **(very overcrowded as I waited to long to put my SCROG net on top so I plan on doing a bunch of defoliation when I change out the reservoir today.)I try to keep it at around 10gal in reservoir at a time. I want to add liquid kool bloom and floralicious plus to my nute mix but I’m more quite sure how exactly to do it. I feel that if I add more nutrients without lowering some then she’s definitely going to get nute burn. My current ratio of feeding is 4ml micro, 2ml grow, 4ml bloom, 2ml cal mag, 2ml hydroguard, and 8ml cannazyme. This is per gallon. This usually gets me around 800ppm. Thankyou guys as always
 

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xtsho said:
Don't add it. It's not needed.
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I’m new so if you don’t mind me asking can I get your reading behind this? I have heard both people say to use it it works and to not use it I’m just looking for someone to give me a good reasonable explanation of why to either use it or not lol
 
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Scandalous08 said:
I’m new so if you don’t mind me asking can I get your reading behind this? I have heard both people say to use it it works and to not use it I’m just looking for someone to give me a good reasonable explanation of why to either use it or not lol
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What @xtsho says^^^
Every time I've tried to use kool bloom, I wasn't happy with the results. I either burned the plants, or if they didn't burn, I didn't get significantly more than I would have expected.
 
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Less is more,Your base nutes have everything.Over the years you learn to adjust your mix to match plants.So a little less N at week 6 a little more N during stretch kinda thing.Good Luck.
 
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Scandalous08 said:
I’m new so if you don’t mind me asking can I get your reading behind this? I have heard both people say to use it it works and to not use it I’m just looking for someone to give me a good reasonable explanation of why to either use it or not lol
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The trio has everything needed.

Excess amounts of any nutrient can have an antagonistic effect on the uptake of other nutrients and lead to nutrient deficiencies despite those nutrients being present in adequate amounts. The best approach is well balanced feeding regimen providing what the plant needs without excess amounts of any nutrient. That leads to healthy plants throughout the grow.

I've never been a believer in excess P/K in flower. I see more bad results than good results from those adding all these additives.
 
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xtsho said:
The trio has everything needed.

Excess amounts of any nutrient can have an antagonistic effect on the uptake of other nutrients and lead to nutrient deficiencies despite those nutrients being present in adequate amounts. The best approach is well balanced feeding regimen providing what the plant needs without excess amounts of any nutrient. That leads to healthy plants throughout the grow.

I've never been a believer in excess P/K in flower. I see more bad results than good results from those adding all these additives.
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Thankyou do you see anything wrong with using cannazyme and cal mag? The nutrient chart I’m going off of recommends cal mag but I had some root issues that the cannazyme seemms to have taken care if
 
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Floralicious is great, KoolBloom might be a bit much if you're using other additives. And in all honesty it doesn't result in much fatter buds, I yield more than my Dad, he uses KoolBloom but I don't. Admittedly his top buds are a lil bit fatter than mine but he uses a better light.
 
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Scandalous08 said:
Thankyou do you see anything wrong with using cannazyme and cal mag? The nutrient chart I’m going off of recommends cal mag but I had some root issues that the cannazyme seemms to have taken care if
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I'm a minimalist when it comes to feeding. I know others use all those products but I never do. From what I've observed over the years is that they're not needed and just an unnecessary expense. Lots of posts from people using everything but the kitchen sink and if they don't fry their plants the end result isn't any better than those just using the basics. Some of the best examples of grows on this site site are from growers keeping it simple without a bunch of additives.

You also run into less problems when you're not adding a bunch of stuff. And if you do it's easier to troubleshoot.
 
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xtsho said:
I'm a minimalist when it comes to feeding. I know others use all those products but I never do. From what I've observed over the years is that they're not needed and just an unnecessary expense. Lots of posts from people using everything but the kitchen sink and if they don't fry their plants the end result isn't any better than those just using the basics. Some of the best examples of grows on this site site are from growers keeping it simple without a bunch of additives.

You also run into less problems when you're not adding a bunch of stuff. And if you do it's easier to troubleshoot.
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Okay so let me ask you this if I’ve been using cannazyme now for a while to help with dead roots to break down can I just stop in the middle of using it? How to I take care of the dead roots? Just a weekly clean of the reservoir?
 
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Scandalous08 said:
Okay so let me ask you this if I’ve been using cannazyme now for a while to help with dead roots to break down can I just stop in the middle of using it? How to I take care of the dead roots? Just a weekly clean of the reservoir?
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I can't help you with that. When I ran flood and drain or DWC hydro I ran sterile. My comments were regarding the use of products like KoolBloom.
 
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Floralicious Plus is an OK product for what it does but its not something I would add to a rez. The Kool Bloom WILL lock out other elements. Over use of P is a common issue seen in the plant infirmary.

You could lower the calmag (even drop it) and use the Canazym bi-weekly until you approach the finish line.

Listen to the advice given. You're running a complete base right now. Thats all you need to have a healthy headache free harvest.
After you'd had a couple successful runs you could start tweaking things but you've got learn how to titrate all of your inputs.
There's even a few apps available that are helpful.

Plants look good.
 
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Tangerine_ said:
Floralicious Plus is an OK product for what it does but its not something I would add to a rez. The Kool Bloom WILL lock out other elements. Over use of P is a common issue seen in the plant infirmary.

You could lower the calmag (even drop it) and use the Canazym bi-weekly until you approach the finish line.

Listen to the advice given. You're running a complete base right now. Thats all you need to have a healthy headache free harvest.
After you'd had a couple successful runs you could start tweaking things but you've got learn how to titrate all of your inputs.
There's even a few apps available that are helpful.

Plants look good.
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So the cal mag has been cut in half since flower the nute schedule I’m following is saying to use 2ml till end of flower. But if it’s not needed then I can just drop it? They do look good in color but I’ve let them get too crowded I think so I’m going to have to do some major defoliation and I’ll probably be back in here looking for some advice on that as well
 
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Scandalous08 said:
Hello all I am using flora trio as my base nutrients with some cal mag, hydroguard and cannazyme in a 2 plant(skywalker OG femenized photos) 17 gal DWC reservoir. This is my first ever grow and I’m growing in a 4x4 tent using 2 HLG 260W XL with a uva 30 bar in the middle of them. Reservoir temps are pretty steady at 65-67 degrees with ambient air temperature around 68 with lights on. RH just above the reservoir is 55 and above the canopy is 57. Will post some pictures for you below. **(very overcrowded as I waited to long to put my SCROG net on top so I plan on doing a bunch of defoliation when I change out the reservoir today.)I try to keep it at around 10gal in reservoir at a time. I want to add liquid kool bloom and floralicious plus to my nute mix but I’m more quite sure how exactly to do it. I feel that if I add more nutrients without lowering some then she’s definitely going to get nute burn. My current ratio of feeding is 4ml micro, 2ml grow, 4ml bloom, 2ml cal mag, 2ml hydroguard, and 8ml cannazyme. This is per gallon. This usually gets me around 800ppm. Thankyou guys as always
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I use GH tri, flo+(which i treat as B52), cal mag. You can use liquid kool B during flowering (treat as BIG bud from Advanced nutrients company). Calculate the total N/P/K ppm ratio from every product together when you add liquid Kool B. Feed upon your total N ppm. Good luck
 
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zhangfuchuan said:
I use GH tri, flo+(which i treat as B52), cal mag. You can use liquid kool B during flowering (treat as BIG bud from Advanced nutrients company). Calculate the total N/P/K ppm ratio from every product together when you add liquid Kool B. Feed upon your total N ppm. Good luck
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Could I get some more information about the exact NPK ratios I should be using? Could I ask what ratios you use?
 
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I follow the GH company ratio. It is listing on their feed chart.BTW, what I said is N/P/K ppm ratio, not the 501/216/054, N/p2O5/k2O ratio on the product label
 
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zhangfuchuan said:
I follow the GH company ratio. It is listing on their feed chart.BTW, what I said is N/P/K ppm ratio, not the 501/216/054, N/p2O5/k2O ratio on the product label
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So everything I’ve read says that gh feed chart is way too high I’ve cut that in half and seem to be doing good I changed the reservoir yesterday and ppms dropped a little overnight so I may try adding the
 
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