Homeland Security Committee Chairman Holds McCarthy style hearings.

Ernst

Ernst

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Homeland Security Committee Chairman Holds McCarthy style hearings.

New York Republican Congressman Peter King, chair of the House Committee on Homeland Security, held a controversial hearing yesterday on what he calls the "radicalization" of the American Muslim community. Critics call the hearings a modern-day form of McCarthyism. We speak to Talat Hamdani, the mother of Mohammed Salman Hamdani, who died in the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center. Minnesota Democrat Rep. Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to Congress, broke down in tears at the hearing when telling the story of her son. We also speak with Mark Potok, director of the Intelligence Project at the Southern Poverty Law Center
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According to This guy Neo-Nazi groups are good Muslims are bad MKay?
 
assbowl

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Is there a source to the original post? All I see is quote, I'm interested and would like to read on. Thanks.
 
Medical Grade

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radical muslims and sharia law are real issues that need to be discussed. we'd be discussing Christians, jews, atheists, or anyone the same way if they performed the same actions, and followed through with terroristic teachings.
 
Ernst

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Medical Grade said:
radical Muslims and sharia law are real issues that need to be discussed. we'd be discussing Christians, jews, atheists, or anyone the same way if they performed the same actions, and followed through with terroristic teachings.
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Cool.. Thanks for your reply.. I too find some of the things I know about Sharia law frightening.
However, I'm going to bet we don't know enough so lets learn.

Wikipedia has a page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_law

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First this based on a belief in a God.

Sharia (Arabic: شريعة‎ šarīʿah, IPA: [ʃaˈriːʕa], "way" or "path") is the sacred law of Islam. Most Muslims believe Sharia is derived from two primary sources of Islamic law: the divine revelations set forth in the Qur'an, and the example set by the Islamic Prophet Muhammad in the Sunnah. Fiqh jurisprudence interprets and extends the application of Sharia to questions not directly addressed in the primary sources by including secondary sources. These secondary sources usually include the consensus of the religious scholars embodied in ijma, and analogy from the Qur'an and Sunnah through qiyas. Shia jurists prefer to apply reasoning ('aql) rather than analogy in order to address difficult questions.
Muslims believe Sharia is God's law, but they differ as to what exactly it entails.[1] Modernists, traditionalists and fundamentalists all hold different views of Sharia, as do adherents to different schools of Islamic thought and scholarship. Different countries and cultures have varying interpretations of Sharia as well.
Sharia deals with many topics addressed by secular law, including crime, politics and economics, as well as personal matters such as sexuality, hygiene, diet, prayer, and fasting. Where it enjoys official status, Sharia is applied by Islamic judges, or qadis. The imam has varying responsibilities depending on the interpretation of Sharia; while the term is commonly used to refer to the leader of communal prayers, the imam may also be a scholar, religious leader, or political leader.
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Without passing judgement I realize that this is a direct competitor to American mores starting with the brand of God and including the influence on the political landscape in many places we are currently occupying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_law


So who is right? Is the American God the wrong God? Is the American way the right way?
I welcome thoughtful replies and if you are Museum please feel free to share. I will defend your right to be a part of American democracy.
 
Ernst

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Medical Grade said:
you left out the part where it say's kill the infidel.
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In that, the USA does that too. We have lists of people we have or will kill no mater where they are in the world without trial.

I did place the URL link to the Page I am now reading on Wikipedia.

Wikipedia has a page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_law#cite_note-Peter_Chippindale_pg._46-67 [edit] Topics of Islamic law

Sharia law can be organized in different ways:
Sharia can be divided into five main branches:

  1. ibadah (ritual worship)
  2. mu'amalat (transactions and contracts)
  3. adab (morals and manners),
  4. i'tiqadat (beliefs)
  5. 'uqubat (punishments
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Medical Grade

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USA is NOT a religion. USA is NOT belief system. USA does not command a generalist population of people to be killed.
 
UncleBuck

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isn't this redundant (at the very least)?

doesn't the first amendment already protect us from sharia law?

answer: yes it does.

so then what is the point?

political points? demonizing muslims?

fuck it.
 
Ernst

Ernst

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Point of the thread?

To explore if our leaders are using hate of a class of people as a tool against all of us.

We just can't let our leaders to legislate hate.

I understand he refused to listen to those he represents by refusing to include other "radical groups" like the Klu Klux Klan and he had no actual news to offer us..

So it seems to be a Dog and Pony show.

Racism or Religious intolerance isn't in the Constitution so I want to know what these Public Employees are doing with our Tax Dollars.
 
Ernst

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Medical Grade said:
blah.. you sound like a tool.
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That bothers you huh...

Good.. I know/knew people who lost most everything they had because they were blacklisted under McCarthy's Un-American Activities. Letting our Government Employees blabber on just to generate hate for one people didn't work for us then and will do damage again.
Remember the guy who drove a cab? http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-08-25-cabbie-stabbing-muslim_N.htm

If this guy can get national media to cover it he may cause harm to millions of people just because this Government Employee is spewing hate-speech.
 
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doc111 said:
:roll: I seem to remember a similar thing happening with the Tea Party a few months ago.:shock:


http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/the_tucson_massacre_witch_hunt.html
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a few news crews asking awkward questions, and some famous tweets hardly counts as a United States Congressional Hearing.

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and this ain't mccarthy style.... mccarthy was a lot more fear based, zero evidence....

we can't deny there's some crazy shit being passed off as Islam in this world.... but this is a waste of tax-payer money and a waste of time. it's already established in the constitution we cannot silence religion.... this makes it seem like that's what we're going to do.

1/2 a world away at 15,000 feet there's a village with a single TV, and rough translation, and those people might be told that the US is against islam, and here's the government proceedings to prove it............ point is i highly doubt these hearings will have any positive effect. i am almost certain these pictures and videos will be used by extremists in the other side of the world to produce propaganda........
 
Ernst

Ernst

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Did it serve to protect Muslims or did it serve to attack Muslims?

If the answer is it served to Protect Muslims then you are right if it served to harm Muslims then you are wrong.

I'd suggest it wasn't to protect Muslims.

New York Republican Congressman Peter King, chair of the House Committee on Homeland Security, held a controversial hearing yesterday on what he calls the "radicalization" of the American Muslim community.
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I'm guessing you are suggesting something like on the way to the restroom he just happen to meet all those people in the hall and just happened to be quoted. That he wasn't hosting a hearing.

Interesting.. But not very realistic.

We must try and include all in our Republic.. Only when we all have no need to violence will violence subside.
The Government Employee thinks he has rights to put a segment of Americans at risk for his ideological agenda.
I am a Vet, I don't always agree with what anyone can say but I defended their right to say it with my life.. and gladly so..
Muslims are part of our culture so we must find a way to tolerance because to defeat intolerance with intolerance is intolerable.
 
Medical Grade

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lol ernst. your ignoring the giant gorilla in the room becuase you havnt had occassion to deal with it. but when it takes your head off, we will bury you and continue to fight against radical muslims.
 
Ernst

Ernst

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Medical Grade said:
lol ernst. your ignoring the giant gorilla in the room becuase you havnt had occassion to deal with it. but when it takes your head off, we will bury you and continue to fight against radical muslims.
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You assume things.

That I don't know Muslims. But Muslims as a people are not Terrorists as a whole. Placing a label on the whole Muslim community in the USA is simply ugly and shocking to see when we are expecting these people to create jobs.
That this Government Employee refused to consider all radical groups that clearly sponsor terrorist acts each year in the USA for this "Hearing" spoke loudly that this is a hate based agenda in my opinion and the opinion of others.

This McCarthyism is ugly, racist and immoral.
 
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