bigman4270
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The pics don't show it but ther is a ton of new growth. this is a side by side.
Home made cabinet for 1st CFL grow!!
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bigman4270
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So I made it rain on the girls yesterday with r/o water and let it go till the runoff was clear. Woke up this morning and the girls are transpiring nicely. Keeping the temp at around 82 with a fan blowing across them to help with wicking away the moisture.
Going to feed them with a mixture of H2O2, Mollasses, and shultz 10/15/10 in the next couple days.
Here is some pic's
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Going to feed them with a mixture of H2O2, Mollasses, and shultz 10/15/10 in the next couple days.
Here is some pic's
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bigman4270
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Thanks for checkin in riddleme. I appreciate the help and advise. I find it facinating that despite my attempts to kill them, they still live on.
KEEP EM GREEN!!!!!!
Peace,
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bigman4270
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Thanks for the look plagerz, I would not be this far had I not found the guys I write about in my thread.
Got the molasses today, so now I have all the ingredients for the girls next feeding. Also hoping that my Mel franks book shows up today. Its been a week.
Also needed to make a note about the plant that I thought was showing male already. Well it turns out just a set of leaves so still hoping all girls. Man the eyes are getting bad.
bigman4270
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"hoping that my Mel franks book shows up today."
Damn it, mail just came and no book yet. Well hopefully Monday.
Damn it, mail just came and no book yet. Well hopefully Monday.
bigman4270
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So I topped the two biggest of them at the 5th node. I also trimmed up the nute burn damage on the older leaves.
I hurt em pretty good when I made it rain plus all the trimming. They are transpiring pretty good, but they sure did droop after I topped them. Already dry down an inch. Raised the temp up a little to 82 and have the fan blowing across them to help wick some of the water.
Mixed up a batch of nute, 1 tsp molasses, 7 drops(1/4 strength) Shultz 10/15/10, and 1 oz of H2O2. Dropped in a air stone and gonna let it bubble away for the next 24 hrs. and feed em they are ready.
Peace
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I hurt em pretty good when I made it rain plus all the trimming. They are transpiring pretty good, but they sure did droop after I topped them. Already dry down an inch. Raised the temp up a little to 82 and have the fan blowing across them to help wick some of the water.
Mixed up a batch of nute, 1 tsp molasses, 7 drops(1/4 strength) Shultz 10/15/10, and 1 oz of H2O2. Dropped in a air stone and gonna let it bubble away for the next 24 hrs. and feed em they are ready.
Peace
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bigman4270
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Workin on better pics!!!
bigman4270
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Two of em still looking hurt but they are still showing new growth. Waiting till they are almost done transpiring and will feed em. It just showes how truly resiliant these plants are.
See alot of people lurking but no comment's? Go ahead, I can take it.
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See alot of people lurking but no comment's? Go ahead, I can take it.
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bigman4270
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Well as I said before that despite my greatest efforts to kill em they continue to live on. That last watering really put the boots to em and they worked their ass off to wick that last rain shower off!
It took 8 days but they finaly were to the point I thought they were ready for there feeding. Although I mixed up a batch last week, I started a new batch Friday afternoon and let it airate till Sunday night when I fed them. I watered them till just several drops came out , tryed to make note of the weight again. Well they didn't droop at all any more than they were and you could almost see them start to perk up as I was watching them.
(On a side note, I have a little stunted plant that I really have not kept you up on because she has just been at a stand still as far as growth goes. I didn't want to waist the batch of food I made up last week but I wasn't sure if it would stay so I fed it to the runt on Friday and she grew a quarter of an inch over night.
I could not believe it. So we will have to wait to see what happens.)
So I check on the girls this morning and I am not sure if they look much better or not. Now i'm headed to work thinking I may have hurt em again but when I get home they have all shown more new growth. You can also see that some of the new growth is a darker green instead of lime green.
Working on the wife to get my Jack's 20/20/20 before I feed them again. Since I will only be using R/O water next time so they should make it here in time.
Well gotta go!
Keep Em Green!!
Big
It took 8 days but they finaly were to the point I thought they were ready for there feeding. Although I mixed up a batch last week, I started a new batch Friday afternoon and let it airate till Sunday night when I fed them. I watered them till just several drops came out , tryed to make note of the weight again. Well they didn't droop at all any more than they were and you could almost see them start to perk up as I was watching them.
(On a side note, I have a little stunted plant that I really have not kept you up on because she has just been at a stand still as far as growth goes. I didn't want to waist the batch of food I made up last week but I wasn't sure if it would stay so I fed it to the runt on Friday and she grew a quarter of an inch over night.
I could not believe it. So we will have to wait to see what happens.)So I check on the girls this morning and I am not sure if they look much better or not. Now i'm headed to work thinking I may have hurt em again but when I get home they have all shown more new growth. You can also see that some of the new growth is a darker green instead of lime green.
Working on the wife to get my Jack's 20/20/20 before I feed them again. Since I will only be using R/O water next time so they should make it here in time.
Well gotta go!
Keep Em Green!!
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bigman4270
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So its another week gone by and the girls are still alive. I still can't seem to kill em.
Anyway, fed em again Sat nite with 7 drops Shultz, tsp molasses, 1oz H2O2, 3 drops of a grow micro sample I got from C.E.S. just for a little extra N. All this shook vigorly and bubbled for 24 hrs.
I know I should have watered them without food but they were suffering from sever K def. The necrosis had not stoped progressing and the new growth had stopped around Wed. After some careful thought and really looking at em, I felt I had to give em more food. They were still hungry because of the low dose last week. Well my new growth has started progressing again and I am getting more green growth around the bottom of the plants. And they finally stretched that 2 inches I was hoping for.
Well I am going to get em ready for flower this week and plan on having em on 12/12 next Mon nite. I have started moving light timer 1 hr earlier each nite till they are at 12/12 on day 58. I can only hope things go good the rest of the week for em. I am crossing my fingers that I have at least one female in the bunch, or Hopefully a hermie to fuck with. They say on here that stress causes hermies. Well I should have four of the mf'ers.
Oh ya, I started putting my list together for my next grow. Found a supplier of FF soils but I am still checking around with the other local nurseries to see what they sell. I may just go with the Black Gold this time but use a different mix with a little more nutes in it. Well gotta go.
Her's some pics. I hurt em good didn't I.
Any thought's? 1800 views and only a handful of comments? I know its not that great but thanks for lookin!
Keep em green.
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I still can't seem to kill em. Anyway, fed em again Sat nite with 7 drops Shultz, tsp molasses, 1oz H2O2, 3 drops of a grow micro sample I got from C.E.S. just for a little extra N. All this shook vigorly and bubbled for 24 hrs.
I know I should have watered them without food but they were suffering from sever K def. The necrosis had not stoped progressing and the new growth had stopped around Wed. After some careful thought and really looking at em, I felt I had to give em more food. They were still hungry because of the low dose last week. Well my new growth has started progressing again and I am getting more green growth around the bottom of the plants. And they finally stretched that 2 inches I was hoping for.
Well I am going to get em ready for flower this week and plan on having em on 12/12 next Mon nite. I have started moving light timer 1 hr earlier each nite till they are at 12/12 on day 58. I can only hope things go good the rest of the week for em. I am crossing my fingers that I have at least one female in the bunch, or Hopefully a hermie to fuck with. They say on here that stress causes hermies. Well I should have four of the mf'ers.
Oh ya, I started putting my list together for my next grow. Found a supplier of FF soils but I am still checking around with the other local nurseries to see what they sell. I may just go with the Black Gold this time but use a different mix with a little more nutes in it. Well gotta go.
Her's some pics. I hurt em good didn't I.
Any thought's? 1800 views and only a handful of comments? I know its not that great but thanks for lookin!
Keep em green.
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tamjam69
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hi bigman, im sorry but i dont understand whats going on with your plants, they are 51 days old, small and look terrible.
i just read most of your thread and it looks like you have been trying to hard!!!, i have seen a few bad grows on here but if i was you i would be starting over again like you said with some new seeds and make sure you got everything correct before you start again
and if i was you i would throw them into 12/12 now
keep ur chin up im sure your next grow will be fine
tamjam
i just read most of your thread and it looks like you have been trying to hard!!!, i have seen a few bad grows on here but if i was you i would be starting over again like you said with some new seeds and make sure you got everything correct before you start again
and if i was you i would throw them into 12/12 now
keep ur chin up im sure your next grow will be fine
tamjam
bigman4270
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Thanks for the look.hi bigman, im sorry but i dont understand whats going on with your plants, they are 51 days old, small and look terrible.
i just read most of your thread and it looks like you have been trying to hard!!!, i have seen a few bad grows on here but if i was you i would be starting over again like you said with some new seeds and make sure you got everything correct before you start again
and if i was you i would throw them into 12/12 now
keep ur chin up im sure your next grow will be fine
Your probably rite! Ya know, I was reading one of UB's threads and he stated something about once the plant has been stunted the way I have than they will always be stunted.
I have learned alot from these guys and since I am out of beans I am going to see it through.Not sure whats going on either but until I can get all my gear together that I want for next time I mite as well.
So think I should roll em to 12/12 today? I guess I can't hurt em anymore than they are already.
Thanks again Tam, I am gonna do that now.
Peace
bigman4270
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So after alot of soul searching the last couple of days weather to call it quit's again or flip em to 12/12 and see what happens. I was hoping to get a couple more responces but it only took one to realy help me decide what to do. 
Well I changed the timer 1hr Mon. 2hr last nite, and 3 hrs tonite to get them to 12/12. I also switched out the lighting a couple at a time over the last couple days and now have 10- 2700K and 3- 6500k on em and all 26W.
Just have to wait and see what happens next. I hope they take off. If I am lucky they will double in size to a whole 16".
I do not plan on up potting them unless they do show drastic improvement. I don,t want to waist the soil. I did burn em a little with the second feeding but there is also new green growth showing. I am hoping to keep em as strees free as possible from here on out to see the effects on them. They are transpiring very nicely and the look to be nice and calm.
The trick now is to figure out my next move.
I know the plants don't look like it but I believe that with what I have learned from this site, Specificaly, Riddle, UB, DC, M.O.G, fdd2blk and any one else I missed will make my next grow much more succesful.
Gonna wait a couple days before new pics to see if they keep on keepin on.
Tryin to keep em green!
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Well I changed the timer 1hr Mon. 2hr last nite, and 3 hrs tonite to get them to 12/12. I also switched out the lighting a couple at a time over the last couple days and now have 10- 2700K and 3- 6500k on em and all 26W.
Just have to wait and see what happens next. I hope they take off. If I am lucky they will double in size to a whole 16".
I do not plan on up potting them unless they do show drastic improvement. I don,t want to waist the soil. I did burn em a little with the second feeding but there is also new green growth showing. I am hoping to keep em as strees free as possible from here on out to see the effects on them. They are transpiring very nicely and the look to be nice and calm.
The trick now is to figure out my next move. I know the plants don't look like it but I believe that with what I have learned from this site, Specificaly, Riddle, UB, DC, M.O.G, fdd2blk and any one else I missed will make my next grow much more succesful.
Gonna wait a couple days before new pics to see if they keep on keepin on.
Tryin to keep em green!
Big
bigman4270
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So it's day 14 of flower and they are still going. Its been a while since I posted because I wanted to make sure things were still going good.
I went ahead and up potted them a week ago into some 1 gal pots with a 2 inch layer of pumice stone at the bottom to help em breath a little better. I also flushed em pretty good before the transplant to help get rid of some of the second feeding I gave them. It burnt em pretty good when I did that so that was another reason for the up pot. The first week after the double dose they were shocked pretty good but they took off in week 2 after the up pot and have showed me that I have 2 girls and a little boy.I took the boy out and put him upstairs for now until I figure out what to do? Maybe harvest some pollen for the future? Who know's?
The fourth one was sacrificed for the better good. I really wanted to get a good look at the rootballs to see if they had rot or anything visable like bugs or mold. Although they were not super strong, they were thick enough that I had to break the ball apart to look inside. There was no obvious damage I could see and no sign of pests. The roots were white in color and the soil smelled earthy and not sour. One thing I did notice was that they were thin like hair probably because of the lack of nute's in the soil. I am also sure the over watering caused lack of O2 so they did not reach there potential resulting in stunted growth. UB was rite, once stunted always stunted.
I did take a cutting off the sacrificed plant to see if it would root. So far so good, it is still growing although kinda weird though. Have to wait and see?.
You can see in pic 1 that she got burnt pretty good but she is doing fine after the up pot and has a ton of new growth. Pic 2 & 4 are the one I topped and she was not hurt as bad as the rest?
They really are a darker green than the cam shows too. It's been 8 days since last water hopefully giving the roots time to grow into the new soil pretty good. So I watered them today with a mix of 1 tsp of molasses, 1/4 tsp epsom salts in a gallon of r/o water. Bubbled it for 24 hrs before given it to em. Tryin not to stress em to much.
Thanks for stoppin by!!
Big
I went ahead and up potted them a week ago into some 1 gal pots with a 2 inch layer of pumice stone at the bottom to help em breath a little better. I also flushed em pretty good before the transplant to help get rid of some of the second feeding I gave them. It burnt em pretty good when I did that so that was another reason for the up pot. The first week after the double dose they were shocked pretty good but they took off in week 2 after the up pot and have showed me that I have 2 girls and a little boy.
I took the boy out and put him upstairs for now until I figure out what to do? Maybe harvest some pollen for the future? Who know's?The fourth one was sacrificed for the better good. I really wanted to get a good look at the rootballs to see if they had rot or anything visable like bugs or mold. Although they were not super strong, they were thick enough that I had to break the ball apart to look inside. There was no obvious damage I could see and no sign of pests. The roots were white in color and the soil smelled earthy and not sour. One thing I did notice was that they were thin like hair probably because of the lack of nute's in the soil. I am also sure the over watering caused lack of O2 so they did not reach there potential resulting in stunted growth. UB was rite, once stunted always stunted.
I did take a cutting off the sacrificed plant to see if it would root. So far so good, it is still growing although kinda weird though. Have to wait and see?.
You can see in pic 1 that she got burnt pretty good but she is doing fine after the up pot and has a ton of new growth. Pic 2 & 4 are the one I topped and she was not hurt as bad as the rest?
They really are a darker green than the cam shows too. It's been 8 days since last water hopefully giving the roots time to grow into the new soil pretty good. So I watered them today with a mix of 1 tsp of molasses, 1/4 tsp epsom salts in a gallon of r/o water. Bubbled it for 24 hrs before given it to em. Tryin not to stress em to much.Thanks for stoppin by!!
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bigman4270
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Thanks for stoppin by and havin a look Riddle. It's been a tough road and I think they are finaly starting to turn around.
Patience has got to be the top vertue when it comes to growing this plant and I believe I have have learned to be just that.
I know I said it before but thanks again for your threads, advice and help.
Keepin em green!
Big
bigman4270
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Okay, so it's day 19 and I lst'd my girl I topped. They are growing great with hairs everywhere. Fed them with the r/o water and a tsp molasses today and they sure are happy.
I can't believe they are turning in to the beautifull ladies they are. Although they are stunted from the ass kickin I have given them over the last couple months, they still are coming around though.
Here's a pick of the lst.
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I can't believe they are turning in to the beautifull ladies they are. Although they are stunted from the ass kickin I have given them over the last couple months, they still are coming around though.
Here's a pick of the lst.
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Ubersoldat
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Wow what a come back!!! Good dude I'll be watching!I'm at about the same point at flowering. Best of luck !