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ketamine_disposal_unit

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Hey

I use the full H&G lineup, my friend uses this regime with PGR's. I took his regime and dropped the PGR (budmeister)

Im finding im getting what i now suspect is P toxicity around week 4 flower. Only in some strains

Can anyobe give me some guidance on if any of these are a little excessive?
 

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a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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ketamine_disposal_unit said:
Heres the full regime. This was the old PGR chart, since i dony use PGR i dont put the top shooter/booster in until a cpl weeks later than listed here.
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You are using way too much stuff. You need to cut almost all of it. Veg through week 4 of flower you only need = Aqua Flakes A&B, Multizen, and cal mag and thats it. Not even joking.
 
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a mongo frog

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ketamine_disposal_unit said:
Sorry this is Coco A+B , growing in coco+perlite DTW
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Even better. A&B, multi, and cal mag. Veg through week 4 of flower. All the other stuff is a waste of money. Please believe me, I used to be that guy. I used to buy every bottle just like you and your buddy. House and Gardens NPK is awesome for marijuanas.
 
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ketamine_disposal_unit

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a mongo frog said:
week 4-finish a little different though. A&B, bud xl, and cal mag. Ill be honest I still use shooting powder. But thats it. Please listen.
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Yeah, so come week 4 you'd use bud xl, what about top shooter and top booster? My mate built this based on using PGR's so that the bud would still "be good" and added everything in incrementally by trial and error and said everything improved his crop enough to justify it. I had been thinking its overkill.

It just seems that every grow goes absolutely fantastic and the plants are incredibly vigorous up until week 4 or so when i start getting signs of either a toxicity or a deficiency. Generally a strain will show a lot worse than others and i have trouble identifying what the issue is.
 
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a mongo frog

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ketamine_disposal_unit said:
Yeah, so come week 4 you'd use bud xl, what about top shooter and top booster? My mate built this based on using PGR's so that the bud would still "be good" and added everything in incrementally by trial and error and said everything improved his crop enough to justify it. I had been thinking its overkill.

It just seems that every grow goes absolutely fantastic and the plants are incredibly vigorous up until week 4 or so when i start getting signs of either a toxicity or a deficiency. Generally a strain will show a lot worse than others and i have trouble identifying what the issue is.
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Yes bud xl. The top booster should not be any where near your grow. I don't know about top shooter I've never used. I use shooting powder instead.
 
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ketamine_disposal_unit

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a mongo frog said:
Yes bud xl. The top booster should not be any where near your grow. I don't know about top shooter I've never used. I use shooting powder instead.
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Also, i am into week 6 now. Would i harm the plants at this stage by cutting out all the unnecessary shit like you said ? Are they "used to" the nutes ive been feeding them?
 
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a mongo frog

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ketamine_disposal_unit said:
Beaut. Ok in gonna take your advice. So next time i fill my res can i just strip it all out or do i need to finish the grow with the nutes im already running
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Im not sure. Try 1 watering and see. I also found it better to stop lowering the amount of A&B at the end. I think the chart says to lower base in week 7 (don't remember what week), but id keep it the same till finish. Not sure if that makes sense.
 
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a mongo frog said:
Im not sure. Try 1 watering and see. I also found it better to stop lowering the amount of A&B at the end. I think the chart says to lower base in week 7 (don't remember what week), but id keep it the same till finish. Not sure if that makes sense.
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Yeah it makes sense, id generally feed them the same right thru to the end anyway. Basically 1.8 all the way thru seems fine for most strains with this regime.
 
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ketamine_disposal_unit

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a mongo frog said:
Im not sure. Try 1 watering and see. I also found it better to stop lowering the amount of A&B at the end. I think the chart says to lower base in week 7 (don't remember what week), but id keep it the same till finish. Not sure if that makes sense.
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I refilled res' of two tents last night with just A+B, multizyme and calmag.

When i checked this evening the tent at week 2 flower had exploded in growth, the tent at week 6 flower's buds (+ bud xl) had also significantly increased in size on a bigger scale than they have been. Could just be coincidental timing but im pretty sure youre on the money man, thanks a bunch. Will see how next grow goes.
 
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Original StinkyG

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ketamine_disposal_unit said:
Hey

I use the full H&G lineup, my friend uses this regime with PGR's. I took his regime and dropped the PGR (budmeister)

Im finding im getting what i now suspect is P toxicity around week 4 flower. Only in some strains

Can anyobe give me some guidance on if any of these are a little excessive?
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I found using aquaflakes and rest of house and gardens line up apart from top shooter and their zyme product. I found that an ec of 1.2 to 1.4 was as high as I needed to go. Others have their own ways but it's what worked for a group of growers. Root excellurator is fantastic product, root health insurance !
 
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