"homade bong ideas to share?"
Post title. Peaceful enough.
"I have about 7 homade bongs that all work to perfection...pass on succesful homade bong ideas that have worked & ill do the same"
Author's first post. Again, a peaceful request for bong ideas.
"the easiest and fastest thing ive done was pvc. i used to work at a surfshop and was the only one there for like 8 hour shifts and i came across like 50 4ft long pvc pipes one day. i ended up with four pvc bongs by the end of the week. real easy to make. drill a slanted hole for the female, used a hollow sharpie for the female, a metal spacer with this weird bolt for the pull out and used surfboard epoxy repair kit to seal up the base of the tube. then took grip tape and cut out designs for a little grip/aesthetics. they hit like champs but i felt like a cheap bastard using em so i just gave em away and kept with glass. gravities are this shit though. easy to make and easy to dispose of when they start to smell like dead fish pussy."
Your first response. Informative and hilarious -- "dead fish pussy" made me point at the screen and laugh out loud.
"I was just thinking about building a new bong.
I figure I'll get throwed then walk around Home Depot for an hour or so. Is PVC ok to use for bong building? Will there be any harmful substances released by the lighter flame/smoke pulling through the tube? If not I'm definitely gonna do something with PVC since I don't have glass drill bits.
What about metal for bowls? I've heard copper and stainless steel are safe for smoking, but those are the only ones I know of for sure.
Lastly, what works best for tubing if I wanted to have multiple hoses coming off?"
My first response. Your method appealed to me because I happened to have a 4 foot tube of 1.25" PVC next to my desk, so I'm just trying to figure out what is safe to smoke out of. I can't figure out if I said something in that post to piss you off.
"to be honest ive heard pvc isn't healty if it gets heated. but i only hit them a few times. you should google it and see whats up. i already had glass so just did it to bullshit a few hours at work. as far as i know aluminum is the only really hazardous metal to smoke out of. once again you should google your shit"
You're right, I should google it. So, with that in mind ...
"I think the notion that PVC bongs are unsafe is dated and inaccurate. I did a literature search on PubMed and read many of the investigations and reviews written on the safety of PVC devices. In fact, PVC is used for blood-transfusion bags, nasogastric tubes, and artificial airways. The studies done on the safety of PVC indicate that absorption of very high doses (milligrams per hour for weeks) of PVC and plasticizers can lead to histological changes.
PVC is stable enough in heat to be used for pipes for hot water (even in health-conscious Europe). Bong water and water-filtered smoke are not nearly as hot as this. The organic plasticizers not tightly bound to the PVC are lipophilic, and would not tend to dissolve in bong water or smoke.
Perhaps this rumor got started because of the fact that when PVC itself is combusted, toxic carcinogen- and irritant-containing smoke is produced. But as long as the bowl and stem are not made of PVC, none of the PVC will be heated significantly, much less combusted.
AMR II,
Baltimore, Maryland
I stick with my original contention that plastic pipes are not clean, health wise. The plasticizers mimic the action of sex hormones at very small concentrations, rather than high doses. This does cause deformations and cancers to human organs and cells.
In a recent report entitled "Sick of Dust, Chemicals in Common Products" by the Safer Products Project (OpenDNS. org, Tel. 718-805-1056, POB 153, Spring Brook, NY 14140) results of tests on household dust showed that most households were contaminated with six or seven powerful chemicals. One group, the "organotins" are used as heat and light stabilizers or "plasticizers" in PVC products such as tubes and pipes. They are released from the plastic upon heating. Here is what the research organization said of this class of chemicals: "Very poisonous even in small amounts, disrupts the hormone and reproductive system; toxic to the immune system."
You mentioned that the plasticizers used in PVC are lipophilic. That means they dissolve in fat and can build up in body tissue.
Plasticizer release from burning and heated plastic is the main problem. The point where the metal bowl meets the plastic pipe is a possible heat site. There are also accidents when using all tools. We have all seen partially melted pipes. These definitely suffer from plasticizer release.
Convincing enough arguments on either side but frankly I think I'll just get some glass drill bits."
I googled it. I found this response, complete with multiple opinions. I came to the same conclusion you did and simply stated that I'll be purchasing some drill bits for popping some holes in glass. This is where things get a tad confusing from my end.
"why the fuck would you get a glass drill bit."
First off, this seems unnecessarily boorish for such a harmless statement. I'm REALLY sorry if I offended you when I declared my intent to purchase drill bits suitable for glass. I suppose this just isn't the way I would address another persons innocuous statement.
Then there was this:
"just buy a fucking tube and quit being such a half ass stoner."
On a scale of 1 to 10, where would you rate this on a "nice" scale? I hate the word nice, it lacks depth entirely, but good god I just can't give this statement more than a 3 on the "nice" scale.
Consider it from my end. I said this: Convincing enough arguments on either side but frankly I think I'll just get some glass drill bits.
And got this: why the fuck would you get a glass drill bit. the only bit that can drill into glass without cracking is a diamond drill bit. just buy a fucking tube and quit being such a half ass stoner.
I honestly felt like this was a pretty unmerited response. I know you're respected, that's excellent and I respect that, but honestly man, do you really think that was a friendly, welcoming response? Do you really want that to be the norm for a response to new users on this forum, a forum for those with a penchant for harmless law breaking and peaceful cultivation?
Whatever. I apologize for coming back so harshly.
Any objective observers have an opinion here?