Hmm, never seen this one before.

thrawn

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Oi, so this here is my 5 week old g13 haze bush. Its sitting in ocean forest and only recieved one watering of nutes.

ph is stable, feed with ph'ed distilled water, temps w/ lights at around 78, water when theyrre dry.

sprayed some epsom salt on last week, didnt seem to help yellowing and the browning of the leaves.

thanks for your help.
 

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morrisgreenberg

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whats PH of the run off? the yellowing shoes N def, but see that twisting and spots? that i dont like perhaps PH flucuation, remember the PH of the water going in, it comes out different, need to find that run off PH, also that soil is loaded with goodies, can go without feed almost 2 months
 

Brick Top

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The yellowing tells me you have an N deficiency. The curling over can be caused by a Mg deficiency. Of course I cannot be positive just by looking at pictures but those seem to be the most likely reasons for what I see in your pictures. In fact you may only have one problem and it could just be a Mg deficiency since that can cause yellowing of the lower leaves and curling and at least before the curling happens the yellowing can be and often is mistaken for being an N deficiency.

N - NITROGEN (N)

Pale plants, red stems, smaller growth. Rapid yellowing of lower leaves progressing up the plant. Add any chemical fertilizer containing N. Treated plants recover in about a week.


Mg - MAGNESIUM (Mg)

Lower leaves yellow and may even turn white while veins remain dark green. Blades die and curl upward.
 

thrawn

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Thanks gents. Figured it might be a def.

I watered with ph'ed distilled at 6.5.

Runoff was 6.34. Assuming that its okay. Does this just mean its time to introduce my ferts?
 

thrawn

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ARg. So I have been giving it some nutes for the past week to no avail. Ph'ed my water to 6.7 to help mg uptake.

Fed it 7 ml of cal mag last night, and some st, and about 2 ml of nutes a piece.

Last pic is a clipped leaf. What the fuck is wrong with these g13 hazes!??!?!
 

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thrawn

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velaur, i've fed them low doses of nutes only twice in their life! the original yellowing occured because they were asking for some nutes i am assuming. but i have never given them amounts that would cause a toxicity.
 

6969AlaskanBuDdy

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anyone? i know someones gotta know whats going on
man im gettin the same shit, curling upwards alot of young ones seem to be getting burnt ect and yet i have fed them one time, and very very little. 1 gal spread, and yet it seems unstoppable, everyday it just gets worse and ive flushed ect, so im transplanting tommorow. dont think this helps any though..
 

HomeGrown420baby

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anyone? i know someones gotta know whats going on
dude give em more nutes thats y u got the deficiency in the first place and if its hydro i keep and u should keep ur ph at 5.3-5.9 and if its soil 6.5-7.1..keep in mind when u water soils ur water should never b 6.5 it will b 6.3 comin out and thats not good u want ur run off water to b no lower then 6.5 i dont like it lower then 6.7..hope that helped
 

Drio

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I would say its Phosphorus defic.

If you have not given them any nutrients in a hydro system and come this far with only 2 feeds id say its evidently lacking more.
 

thrawn

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its soil. they're looking alot better after i gave them some calmag and some high n nutes. still some general yellowing on shaded leaves though.
 

peach

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That's not nutrient burn.

It could be lack of nutrient, but if they're still small and new to nutrient, 50 - 75% should be fine.

This is only a suggestion but, are they where they can get cold? If air below ~5C is around them for too long, you can see similar patchyness with yellowing, which eventually goes to a twisted up kind of dead looking leaf.

Maybe go a touch lower with your pH.

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thrawn

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That's not nutrient burn.

It could be lack of nutrient, but if they're still small and new to nutrient, 50 - 75% should be fine.

This is only a suggestion but, are they where they can get cold? If air below ~5C is around them for too long, you can see similar patchyness with yellowing, which eventually goes to a twisted up kind of dead looking leaf.

Maybe go a touch lower with your pH.

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Alright, I am going with lack of nutes.

But as far as the temperature piece of advice...If my temps are at 72 w/ lights on, do you think the change it temp at lights off could be the culprit? I need a high and low therm god damn it
 

peach

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Alright, I am going with lack of nutes.

But as far as the temperature piece of advice...If my temps are at 72 w/ lights on, do you think the change it temp at lights off could be the culprit? I need a high and low therm god damn it
So long as their warm enough that you'd be happy sitting in that temperature while they sleep, they're probably good. It only turns into an issue if you're doing something like me, pulling in fresh air from an outside source. If you leave it pulling the air in overnight and the temperature outside bombs down, when the lights go off the grow space can have temperatures below 5C there and touching on 0C, and they won't like that. Provided it's 10C they'll be okay. Keeping it more like 19C while they sleep will help keep their metabolism running quickly, which should keep growth high. Drop a thermometer in there and check it out before bed, then again when you get up before the lights come on (assuming you run your lights during the day). The pH of your feed should drop slightly in soil, but if it's not getting into the 5.5 - 6 zone in the soil that can lock your nutrient up and stop the plants getting to it. Adding more nutrient can then burn them. So it may be that you need more, but I'd double check the pH actually in the soil it's self.
 
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