HLG vs HGL Side By Side
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boilingoil
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@hybridway2
The only thing I want from you is to kill this LED deficiency talk you are spewing instead of blaming everything but the root cause, grower error.
The only thing I want from you is to kill this LED deficiency talk you are spewing instead of blaming everything but the root cause, grower error.
OLD MOTHER SATIVA
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Who is to say that someone is trolling? Maybe they are responding because they think that you are trolling.
It's an open forum, and if someone is trolling your posts, then you should post that.
You know, like this:
You're a troll.
No, you're a troll.
Nope, you're a troll and I'm right.
And on and on until you finally end your teenage years.
well that retort was good
so much better than your boring tds...and we don't mean t otal d isolved s alts [t rump d erangement s yndrome]
rkymtnman
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HID light + nute routine A= success
LEd light + nute routine A= deficiency
seems like changing nute routine A would solve the deficiency to me.
nonononono NO! the spectrum is to blame, nothing else! stop trolling!
hybridway2
Amare Shill
I am working on it but even if i perfected it, that info would need to be made super public to help others. It is an epedemic until they make a Narcan for CoCo/whiteled combo plants.
Ran out of the flower base last feed & only had boost, so part A & not part B. Even know the ppms are a lil high in the potts, the room plants immediately showed Cal+ defficencies. Throwing yellow leaves at the bottom on some plants. The HLG plant receives the highest ppfd in the garden right now & all leaves turned a shade lighter. Scary stuff as they were doing so well staying green & i need them to maintain that until fade time.
Otherwise its yield losses. Reduced wattage by 35w until next feed.
Moved to Pro-Mix on the clones, using my regular hydro type nutes TechNaFlora @ low strength.
Any suggestions or things I should know about growing in peet or Pro-Mix HP w/Microzye? Upon inspection i noticed a lower ph & higher EC coming out. Rinsed each pott with extra light feed which i feel may have just eliminated the Microzye i wanted to keep. Stoned mistake.
Should i be treating this Media as a middle ground between CoCo & Soil?
Think i need a Nutrient that is Soils A+B base?
Anyone answering pls have experience in the matter. Thnx!
Am not opposed to switching nutes for this which will include several simutaneous side by sides.
Thnx!
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Right.
Jacks 3-2-1 is all anyone ever replies to that. Having a hard time accepting that answer as it does not tell the reason behind it. Even after several have dissected it, i hear no true answer.
But yeah, id really like to dead that issue now & hopefully will get past it in a new media & maybe a drip or feed system cuz i let my potts get to dry aslo.
coreywebster
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I remember when mau5 used to document lots of grows and don't remember ever seeing issues , though that was mostly cobs.
He did run a few nutrients lines and still didn't have issues.
I have to say in flower I don't have any problems, in veg though lights just seem too intense and I had to dim down to half what I flower with and keep temps higher. (only recently started vegging with boards)
Weirdly in flower the temps don't seem to come into play as much.
What range do you run temp wise?
PSUAGRO.
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I've been telling you forever hybrid to go to LOS, as it's very forgiving. Not pricey to try just one 7-10 gal pot.
Can go back to "hydro", coir for the yield bump when you are more confident in your skills, whatever. Like lukio said, walk before running : )
Buy some "organic" container mix locally, add perlite/hulls etc, liberally amend with DTE bioalive , if your tap tds is below 150 or using RO? When a def appears? Top dress more, easy peasy just water till the end. Use NOTHING else, just water, hydro store will miss you ; )
Just try it, the beauty is you can recycle the media for years, rols, and not contribute to drain to waste chems
Can go back to "hydro", coir for the yield bump when you are more confident in your skills, whatever. Like lukio said, walk before running : )
Buy some "organic" container mix locally, add perlite/hulls etc, liberally amend with DTE bioalive , if your tap tds is below 150 or using RO? When a def appears? Top dress more, easy peasy just water till the end. Use NOTHING else, just water, hydro store will miss you ; )
Just try it, the beauty is you can recycle the media for years, rols, and not contribute to drain to waste chems
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potroastV2
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So in other words - you are openly allowing a handful of members to be disruptive to others who have no interest in hearing the constant spewing of the same bs rhetoric.
It's kinda like bullies on a play ground only we can't just directly knock their teeth out here so it would be assumed that some sort of moderation would be in effect when members reach out repeatedly to point out that another member has no good intention and is only wanting to stir shit up with the way they are posting "trolling" a thread.
It is strange though that I don't really see this issue in the other areas of the site I have visited. Mainly just this led section?
Oh I see what you are saying. Yes, we moderate these forums, and the effects of our moderation are everywhere. However, if you disagree with what we do, then you can take matters into your own hands.
This platform has an option for you to use if you wish, just put any of those members who you consider to be trolls on your ignore list, and you will no longer see any of their posts.
Voila! No more trolls!
captainmorgan
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Sounds like some sort of techno magic, are the trolls injured in this process?
boilingoil
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At least someone gets it !
Simple fact is he's trying to cram 400ppf to plants only needing 200ppf and on up the line. Another simple fact that plant health status starts from the beginning, fry your plant with too much light or nutrients early and you'll lose, period.
hybridway2
Amare Shill
I agree about intensity but disagree that it applies to me this year. You haven't noticed i keep my Bar-8 around 680-700w for a 700ppfd?
Will go higher when a strain can takeit & is preppared.
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Whos the @homebrewer that uses DynaGro with success?
Thnx!
Thnx!
boilingoil
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It's not that I don't like you, you just don't have all the pieces figured out yet. I am just trying to get you to do some critical thinking for yourself.
boilingoil
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When do you run 700ppf? Plants don't need 700-800ppf until the last few weeks of flower.
Jack's is a good balanced feed and it works you keep trying random ass shit and changing everything. You could just use Jack's and solve all your problems but then you would have to admit all the "trolls" are right and "led defeciency" doesn't exist. But we all know that you will never admit when your wrong
The problem is he likes talking to the people he calls trolls he's always tagging them in postsOh I see what you are saying. Yes, we moderate these forums, and the effects of our moderation are everywhere. However, if you disagree with what we do, then you can take matters into your own hands.
This platform has an option for you to use if you wish, just put any of those members who you consider to be trolls on your ignore list, and you will no longer see any of their posts.
Voila! No more trolls!
homebrewer
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Probably me.
OneHitDone
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Can you possible drop in the simplest terms what your Dyna-Gro schedule is?
Are you under HID or LED?
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