Who do you think will win?

  • HLG

    Votes: 68 90.7%
  • HydroGrow

    Votes: 7 9.3%

  • Total voters
    75
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Big Perm

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How do you separate a scam artist from what they use to scam people?
It's a rhetorical question, but...
Do I promote Cammy, or HGL. Or do I promote the light?
Do I promote a light's performance, no matter the company?
Results talk and bullshit walks.
People are too paranoid to post a pic, thinking a swat team is going to kick the door in after a reverse ip lookup for that auto that is growing in a closet in a dixie cup...I understand being safe. That's why most people don't have things sent to their address. Seeds? Stuff like that? Anyway, if you are paranoid, then use that same address you got the seeds with... to get the light with. Then all of this money spent chasing you down so that they can raid your closet can't be justified by the light you ordered in the mail to obviously grow meth with. Swat team holding the light up like a war trophy for the channel 3 news pic, the whole 9.
If you want to try it, try it, if not, then don't.
 

Dog Star

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Dear people that dont know let them Google "Cammie LED scam" term.. he scams people for more than decade..

he also scamed people in car light industry.. dont buy this shitty lights,you will made yourself a favour and in same time you will not support snitch and deciver..
 

Big Perm

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I promote all companies, here is an ILuminar iL8. It's a fucking badass light, I mean....look at this. You can get it from ILuminar for $1,490.35. I think that price tag is in orbit. To each their own though, right? Say someone says, "Holy fuckin shit perm, where can I get that?" I would say here you can get it for $1,148.92, plus shipping. They also match anyone else's price if you find it somewhere else cheaper! AND they finance from $10k to $1M!

Would I grow under the iL8. Yes
Would I pay $1,150+? No.

Here comes the Alibaba posts, but what they aren't going to say is the cost to get that half price baba light that what's his name said is the same exact thing to your door. Say you pull the trigger on an Amare Bar8 (not on Alibaba). The cost to get that to your door is $400-600 in shipping. Ask me how I know these things...

EDIT: I need to clarify, and say that I promote all companies that perform in my grow room. I also wouldn't pay 1150 because I don't have 1150, lol. If I did and that was the light I wanted to buy though, I would. Both statements above are my opinion.
 
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OneHitDone

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Ehhh Captainmorgan.. you ask too hard questions for answering directly... ;D LOL
So answer this honestly if you do truly know the answer - were lights ever received form HydroGrowLed and not payed for or a Credit Card Chargeback initiated in an attempt to keep lights without paying for them?
Way too much he said she said Bullshit!

 

Dog Star

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So answer this honestly if you do truly know the answer - were lights ever received form HydroGrowLed and not payed for or a Credit Card Chargeback initiated in an attempt to keep lights without paying for them?
Way too much he said she said Bullshit!

Was tought you are a less idiot than some folks i met here but i made mistake..

In another post you doesnt have nothing against that your boss threating a people with snitching,think these
things enough says for you and who you are..

 

OneHitDone

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Was tought you are a less idiot than some folks i met here but i made mistake..

In another post you doesnt have nothing against that your boss threating a people with snitching,think these
things enough says for you and who you are..

You got me bro - that's some of my best work :peace:
 

Gond00s

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Thats why i replayed here and showed same link like you did... we need to expose BS,otherway we are not
proper community nor good people if we aloud these kind of scumbags play with our brains and
further trick other members that are not awared....
that's why people shouldn't just go with leds they should go hps with a hood makes it so much better than any led for the price imo.
 

Dog Star

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that's why people shouldn't just go with leds they should go hps with a hood makes it so much better than any led for the price imo.
Am buyed bro to try LEDs.. but thanx God its not HGL fixture but some other producer..

agree with you about HPS... am still cant rid of mine Gavita 1000 DE.. and i love those yields too..
 

Dog Star

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Heheheheehe those thread at icrag become even more interesting...

So the Big Perm sells HGL lights and in same time he is tester for HGL...

what supermod at ICMag says is...

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unclefishstick
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leaflet
That's because she's so unfamiliar with the market, she thinks that's the only competition she has to go after.
Other routines pulled on every single other board and grow comparison:
If you, as the grower, say something like, "The plant under the HGL light looks a little greener" that automatically translates to "HGL blows away HLG in all independent tests!"
And if your HGL grow isn't doing as well as the HLG, you instantly get blamed for doing something wrong.



like the horticulture lighting group vs hydrogrow thread being done by someone who sells hydrogrow leds? which wasn't revealed until recently...pretty shady...


LOL Big Perm.. it looks like those name Big Sperm is more suitable for you..
 

kotobide

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Battery acid is as good as it gets. You could ph a res and come back a year later and it would be the same, sarcastically but seriously.
lol yeah ive never used it. I use general hydroponics ph down though i do know some people that swear by it
 

Gond00s

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Heheheheehe those thread at icrag become even more interesting...

So the Big Perm sells HGL lights and in same time he is tester for HGL...

what supermod at ICMag says is...

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unclefishstick
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: spinning circles
Posts: 53,807



Quote:
Originally Posted by Leaflet
That's because she's so unfamiliar with the market, she thinks that's the only competition she has to go after.
Other routines pulled on every single other board and grow comparison:
If you, as the grower, say something like, "The plant under the HGL light looks a little greener" that automatically translates to "HGL blows away HLG in all independent tests!"
And if your HGL grow isn't doing as well as the HLG, you instantly get blamed for doing something wrong.



like the horticulture lighting group vs hydrogrow thread being done by someone who sells hydrogrow leds? which wasn't revealed until recently...pretty shady...


LOL Big Perm.. it looks like those name Big Sperm is more suitable for you..
bongsmilie:leaf: This gonna get interesting real fast im waiting time for a party anyone I got popcorn
 

OneHitDone

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Only thing getting interesting is truth and reality.
I have no ties to one brand or another. Just a previously led skeptical hid grower here who has seen great promise in both HLG and HGL product.
People need to chill out, sit down, and let some folks grow and share their experiences.
Whats with all the dick swinging in this LED section? You just don't see people fighting tooth and nail over oh My Hortilux HPS is bigger than your Ushio!
It is really off-putting. Makes one on the fence about led not look twice cause its such a drama fest filled with shit information that it's easier for most to just stay with HID and focus on their gardens.
Hopefully the troll wave will settle back down here shortly :peace:
 
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